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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-01-07 15:43:46 UTC
SassyLassy wrote:
it would be nice if you could train more then 1 charecter at a time. training 2 chars on 1 account be awesome especially if it could be done at same time.

Why isnt this been added in yet CCP ?


Oddly enough -- CCP is actually a business, with employees that need paychecks and shareholders who expect something profitable to eventually come of their investment.

Funny that.


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TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-01-07 15:46:48 UTC
SassyLassy wrote:


im trying to get all me charecters to have everything maxed lol. i wanna be that gal who can fly all 4 races of titan perfectly :)


you don't need everything on lvl 5 for that

also, no to your idea.

Character farming shouldn't be a thing ¬¬
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#23 - 2013-01-07 15:50:41 UTC
Please tell us the name of any other MMO that you can level up multiple characters on the same account at the same time.

Also learn to search, this is an incredibly bad idea that has been posted before.

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Unit CA108AF
Unit Commune
#24 - 2013-01-07 16:03:08 UTC
SassyLassy wrote:
it would be nice if you could train more then 1 charecter at a time. training 2 chars on 1 account be awesome especially if it could be done at same time.

Why isnt this been added in yet CCP ?


Because it's OP.
Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-01-07 16:26:45 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
SassyLassy wrote:
it would be nice if you could train more then 1 charecter at a time. training 2 chars on 1 account be awesome especially if it could be done at same time.

Why isnt this been added in yet CCP ?

If they do that then ALOT of people will stop using multiple accts (including myself)...


Yup, Mai hit the nail on the head.

OP, why would CCP want to effectively nerf their income stream?



CCP already nerfs their income by providing PLEX. Get rid of plex and see all the players who have alt accounts either sub them up or cancel (Most will just transfer those toons to their main account and cancel those plexed accounts.) The argument you can only play one character in an MMO is bunk also. Let me ask you a question does your character skill up when your not playing? If so why not multiple characters on the same account. Obviously this will reduce the costs of character sales but I think it will bring more players to the game thus increasing CCPs bottom line right.

The only players who object to this idea are the ones who spent years training their toons and are usually the same players who say SP's dont matter in this game so why do they object to this....oh thats right SP's do matter in EVE.

Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.
Lord Leftfield
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-01-07 16:28:55 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have deleted some posts with inappropriate language here.


Dear CCP Eterne, what is inappropriate language in GD?

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Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#27 - 2013-01-07 16:35:47 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
SassyLassy wrote:
it would be nice if you could train more then 1 charecter at a time. training 2 chars on 1 account be awesome especially if it could be done at same time.

Why isnt this been added in yet CCP ?

If they do that then ALOT of people will stop using multiple accts (including myself)...


Yup, Mai hit the nail on the head.

OP, why would CCP want to effectively nerf their income stream?



CCP already nerfs their income by providing PLEX. Get rid of plex and see all the players who have alt accounts either sub them up or cancel (Most will just transfer those toons to their main account and cancel those plexed accounts.) The argument you can only play one character in an MMO is bunk also. Let me ask you a question does your character skill up when your not playing? If so why not multiple characters on the same account. Obviously this will reduce the costs of character sales but I think it will bring more players to the game thus increasing CCPs bottom line right.

The only players who object to this idea are the ones who spent years training their toons and are usually the same players who say SP's dont matter in this game so why do they object to this....oh thats right SP's do matter in EVE.

In case you missed the memo, CCP doesn't "provide" PLEX, they sell them (for more than the cost/month of a multi-month subscription).

"Free to play" players who buy PLEX with isk to keep their accounts active are actually *more* profitable for CCP.

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#28 - 2013-01-07 16:52:01 UTC
Buzzy Warstl wrote:
Christy D Floyd wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
SassyLassy wrote:
it would be nice if you could train more then 1 charecter at a time. training 2 chars on 1 account be awesome especially if it could be done at same time.

Why isnt this been added in yet CCP ?

If they do that then ALOT of people will stop using multiple accts (including myself)...


Yup, Mai hit the nail on the head.

OP, why would CCP want to effectively nerf their income stream?



CCP already nerfs their income by providing PLEX. Get rid of plex and see all the players who have alt accounts either sub them up or cancel (Most will just transfer those toons to their main account and cancel those plexed accounts.) The argument you can only play one character in an MMO is bunk also. Let me ask you a question does your character skill up when your not playing? If so why not multiple characters on the same account. Obviously this will reduce the costs of character sales but I think it will bring more players to the game thus increasing CCPs bottom line right.

The only players who object to this idea are the ones who spent years training their toons and are usually the same players who say SP's dont matter in this game so why do they object to this....oh thats right SP's do matter in EVE.

In case you missed the memo, CCP doesn't "provide" PLEX, they sell them (for more than the cost/month of a multi-month subscription).

"Free to play" players who buy PLEX with isk to keep their accounts active are actually *more* profitable for CCP.


Buzzy gave exactly the same answer as I would have done regarding PLEX.

Also, I've been playing about 18 months now so I don't fall into the "many years player" bracket. Yup, my 'toons do train up when I'm offline, but I pay for the privilege, by having two full subscriptions.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#29 - 2013-01-07 18:15:04 UTC
Lord Leftfield wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have deleted some posts with inappropriate language here.


Dear CCP Eterne, what is inappropriate language in GD?

He'd tell you but then he'd have to delete himself.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#30 - 2013-01-07 18:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
SassyLassy wrote:
Dosan Vendetta wrote:
No it would not! Achievements in the game would be reached to easily and there would be so many people with a range of different things without really having to work for it.



no matter how you look at it. from starting sp to everything at level V will still take you 27 years..

Financial issues aside, have you ever stopped to think that perhaps that is the point?

This forces you to make decisions on your skill path as you are never going to get everything to max, thus avoiding the miscalculation of games that DO allow you to eventually master everything and consequently quit out of boredom.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#31 - 2013-01-07 18:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Christy D Floyd wrote:
CCP already nerfs their income by providing PLEX. Get rid of plex and see all the players who have alt accounts either sub them up or cancel (Most will just transfer those toons to their main account and cancel those plexed accounts.) The argument you can only play one character in an MMO is bunk also. Let me ask you a question does your character skill up when your not playing? If so why not multiple characters on the same account. Obviously this will reduce the costs of character sales but I think it will bring more players to the game thus increasing CCPs bottom line right.

The only players who object to this idea are the ones who spent years training their toons and are usually the same players who say SP's dont matter in this game so why do they object to this....oh thats right SP's do matter in EVE.


Where do you thin PLEX come from?

Every time someone pays with PLEX, CCP gets $17.5 instead of $12-$15.

Transferring toons earns CCP either $20 or $35, depending on whether you pay with cash or PLEX, so even allowing you to train 2 toons on one account for an extra PLEX a month works out poorly for CCP.

If you want to train 2 characters at full speed, buy a second account.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jacob Rider
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-01-07 18:23:57 UTC
SassyLassy -- your idea is bad, and you should feel bad.

Because our characters still skill up even if we don't log in (as long as the account stays paid up), having multiple characters train at the same time would be way overpowered.

You want multiple fully-trained characters? Pay for or PLEX multiple accounts. I have three, and I know I'm at the low end of the scale.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#33 - 2013-01-07 18:25:27 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
SassyLassy wrote:
it would be nice if you could train more then 1 charecter at a time. training 2 chars on 1 account be awesome especially if it could be done at same time.

Why isnt this been added in yet CCP ?

If they do that then ALOT of people will stop using multiple accts (including myself)...


Yup, Mai hit the nail on the head.

OP, why would CCP want to effectively nerf their income stream?



CCP already nerfs their income by providing PLEX. Get rid of plex and see all the players who have alt accounts either sub them up or cancel (Most will just transfer those toons to their main account and cancel those plexed accounts.) The argument you can only play one character in an MMO is bunk also. Let me ask you a question does your character skill up when your not playing? If so why not multiple characters on the same account. Obviously this will reduce the costs of character sales but I think it will bring more players to the game thus increasing CCPs bottom line right.

The only players who object to this idea are the ones who spent years training their toons and are usually the same players who say SP's dont matter in this game so why do they object to this....oh thats right SP's do matter in EVE.

Others are already educating you on your errors concerning PLEX, so I'll simply point out that people who obsess over the amount of skill points they have really don't understand how EvE works, and likely aren't getting as much enjoyment out of the game as they could.

I personally spend far more time playing lesser skilled characters than I do this one, they tend to be more challenging and enjoyable overall... and I'm not alone.

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SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#34 - 2013-01-07 18:36:05 UTC
OK A slight change of direction but one I would appreciate at times...

I would like to have the training queue account wide. Ie still fitting within the rules for one toon setting up queue (final skill starts within 24 hours) I could have my training start on toon 2 without having to log on at some inconvenient time to stop one queue and start the other.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#35 - 2013-01-07 18:57:29 UTC
SB Rico wrote:
OK A slight change of direction but one I would appreciate at times...

I would like to have the training queue account wide. Ie still fitting within the rules for one toon setting up queue (final skill starts within 24 hours) I could have my training start on toon 2 without having to log on at some inconvenient time to stop one queue and start the other.


That would be a welcome change. That or allowing us to pause training from the character select screen.

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Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2013-01-07 19:47:37 UTC
Actually, I would just like CCP to give us 2 more slots on each account, total of 5.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#37 - 2013-01-09 17:02:29 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
The only players who object to this idea are the ones who spent years training their toons and are usually the same players who say SP's dont matter in this game so why do they object to this....oh thats right SP's do matter in EVE.


If you actually bothered to think about it for a min, you would see that if CCP changed the system to allow 2 chars on the same account to skill up at the same time, it would not be more of an advantage to New or Old players. Nore would it change the amount of skillpoints each character has.

So claiming that its the old players who oppose this idea because they want to maintain some sort of SP advantage is total BS!

Maybe its because older players can see how that sort of change would lead to everyone skilling up an alt on the same account simply to sell and the game would quickly become flooded with bought characters. And new players just want "moer skillz now OMG Roxors!!!11!!!!11!!!"

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SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#38 - 2013-01-09 17:07:24 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Christy D Floyd wrote:
The only players who object to this idea are the ones who spent years training their toons and are usually the same players who say SP's dont matter in this game so why do they object to this....oh thats right SP's do matter in EVE.


If you actually bothered to think about it for a min, you would see that if CCP changed the system to allow 2 chars on the same account to skill up at the same time, it would not be more of an advantage to New or Old players. Nore would it change the amount of skillpoints each character has.

So claiming that its the old players who oppose this idea because they want to maintain some sort of SP advantage is total BS!

Maybe its because older players can see how that sort of change would lead to everyone skilling up an alt on the same account simply to sell and the game would quickly become flooded with bought characters. And new players just want "moer skillz now OMG Roxors!!!11!!!!11!!!"


A good point, since if this change ever came about I would personally do one of 2 things...

1) Cut the number of accounts I run
2) Create a load of alts in all my spare slots and start training toons to sell. While still maintaining my sp advantage over newer players.

This in turn leads to another income loss to CCP, since every sod would be training toons to sell, the market value of toons would crash and people would not bother to sell toons since the value of a toon was less than the transfer cost.

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Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#39 - 2013-01-09 17:13:03 UTC
Looking back on the OP, if CCP sold "training slots" on the exact same basis that full accounts are sold it would be a fair deal.

It would result in fewer character transfers, but more people would probably spring for an extra training slot for a PLEX/month than currently go for an extra account, because the additional character they want to train is on an already active account with other character(s) they want to train.

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs
SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#40 - 2013-01-09 17:18:20 UTC
Buzzy Warstl wrote:
Looking back on the OP, if CCP sold "training slots" on the exact same basis that full accounts are sold it would be a fair deal.

It would result in fewer character transfers, but more people would probably spring for an extra training slot for a PLEX/month than currently go for an extra account, because the additional character they want to train is on an already active account with other character(s) they want to train.


But thinking about this from a business viewpoint, if someone will pay you $18 a month extra for a training slot surely they will just pay $18 a month for a second account and then transfer then character for $20 or $35. so I make an extra $20 :)

Scammers are currently selling killrights on this toon for up to 5mil, if you have paid for this service demand your money back at once.

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