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A role for the new Tier3 Battlecruisers

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Pteranodon
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-10-24 11:48:11 UTC
These ships, from what I understand, can fit battleship size weapons.

CCP should give these ships a very special purpose with unique weapons that can only be fitted to this hull.

I propose capital ship weapons which do massive damage to super caps & Titan class vessels. I know there are changes to the capital ships, particularly with regard to what Titans can target but with careful thought this role could be workable & immensely important to how the mechanics of cap ship killing can be played out.

I'm looking for the underdog to have a chance against the behemoths of Eve.
De'Veldrin
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#2 - 2011-10-24 13:25:49 UTC
Pteranodon wrote:
These ships, from what I understand, can fit battleship size weapons.

CCP should give these ships a very special purpose with unique weapons that can only be fitted to this hull.

I propose capital ship weapons which do massive damage to super caps & Titan class vessels. I know there are changes to the capital ships, particularly with regard to what Titans can target but with careful thought this role could be workable & immensely important to how the mechanics of cap ship killing can be played out.

I'm looking for the underdog to have a chance against the behemoths of Eve.


They will already have a role.

Popping the POS's of people who previously thought that Class 1's were immune to such shenanigans.

Any other roles are simply icing on the cake.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2011-10-24 14:28:05 UTC
Why don't you wait before we have all the details before posting this?
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4 - 2011-10-24 14:40:18 UTC
They already have one, its call alot of ouch on a cheaper hull.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
The Revenant Order
#5 - 2011-10-24 14:54:04 UTC
XXSketchxx wrote:
Why don't you wait before we have all the details before posting this?


Say it with me man: "Because he's a ****tard"

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Wu Phat
311. Bomber squadron
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#6 - 2011-10-24 15:27:41 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
They already have one, its call alot of ouch on a cheaper hull.



Cheap **** no. T3 Battlecruisers price should be competative with Pirate Faction Battleships. Like 650 to 700mill just for the Hull before the sub systems. it better not have interdicton NullificationEvil.

Hoping the new T3"s gets the role of field Command ship just with some DPS.

De'Veldrin
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#7 - 2011-10-24 15:32:22 UTC
Wu Phat wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
They already have one, its call alot of ouch on a cheaper hull.



Cheap **** no. T3 Battlecruisers price should be competative with Pirate Faction Battleships. Like 650 to 700mill just for the Hull before the sub systems. it better not have interdicton NullificationEvil.

Hoping the new T3"s gets the role of field Command ship just with some DPS.



Say it with me now:

They're not T3 (Tech 3).
They're Tier 3 (Like the Maelstrom or the Rokh are Tier 3 Battleships).

There's a significant difference.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
The Revenant Order
#8 - 2011-10-24 15:38:52 UTC
Wu Phat wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
They already have one, its call alot of ouch on a cheaper hull.



Cheap **** no. T3 Battlecruisers price should be competative with Pirate Faction Battleships. Like 650 to 700mill just for the Hull before the sub systems. it better not have interdicton NullificationEvil.

Hoping the new T3"s gets the role of field Command ship just with some DPS.



And for mere ISK a day, we can stop the illiteracy of ignorant people like this one. Please make all donations to Jack Carrigan and in the notes, include "Illiterate **** Fund." We can stop this stemming problem with your help.

And in all seriousness, dude, slow down and actually READ the Dev Blog. It clearly says they are TIER 3 ships, NOT TECH 3 ships. You're only making yourself looks like a moron.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#9 - 2011-10-24 15:45:07 UTC
R3 not T3 get it right.

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Tyme Xandr
Weyl Manufacturing
#10 - 2011-10-24 16:08:35 UTC
I'm pretty sure the new tier 3 BC's already have a role. Its speed/agility with high alpha from large weapons (most likely not a full rack, but rather 4-5).

What im really interested in is the mid and low slot arrangements.
tankus2
HeartVenom Inc.
BORE
#11 - 2011-10-24 16:52:00 UTC
who'd want to take a guess that the best vessel of this lot (unless it gets gimped like marauders) would be the minmatar's?

Where the science gets done

X Gallentius
Black Eagle5
#12 - 2011-10-24 16:55:56 UTC
Tyme Xandr wrote:
I'm pretty sure the new tier 3 BC's already have a role. Its speed/agility with high alpha from large weapons (most likely not a full rack, but rather 4-5).


An affordable gate-camping, pod popping Macherial for all. Minmatar wins again.
E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
#13 - 2011-10-24 17:18:42 UTC
I really hope to use them in WH's.

Right now many people run RR tengue's and they can tank a lot and dish decent damage out to 100+km. They also do not have the mass so can go in and out of WH's.

Right now no other ships can tank, do long range dps and remot rep like the tengue.
But I hope the tornado will change that.


Bigger guns will give decent range
Battle cruiser hull *should* out tank the tengue
small mass

don't expect it to RR thoguh it would work with rather than replace the tengue.
I also expect it to cost a lot more than a standard BC.

Right now I fear they won't have the tank of the tengue and thus not be usefull to me. They need good dps and better tank than a drake and that would be OP unless the ship cost a lot.

So hoping it is expensive...
Tyme Xandr
Weyl Manufacturing
#14 - 2011-10-24 19:16:38 UTC
Dont expect them to be your next drake/tengu. Theyve already stated they have gimped tanks - devoting system resources to fitting large weapons. Gimped means their tanks are crap.