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FW Galante vs Amarr?

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YuuKnow
The Scope
#1 - 2013-01-06 03:41:32 UTC
Random question. If I'm in Gallante Faction Warfare, can I go to a Amarrian Controlled system and capture it? Or must I only fight on the Caldari front?

yk
ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#2 - 2013-01-06 03:52:20 UTC
Quote:
Attacking/Defending factions

Each system that is located in a combat zone is fought over by two opposing factions. The faction owning Occupancy is the defender, while the one trying to gain it is the attacker. "Allied" factions cannot claim the system by themselves but may help the attacking/defending faction in their task.



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YuuKnow
The Scope
#3 - 2013-01-06 03:55:57 UTC
Thanks. Will the standings effects and payouts also not apply unless they are in the appropriate contested system as well? Or will a Gallante capturing a Amarrian dungeon for the Minimatar have the same payout?

yk
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
#4 - 2013-01-06 04:44:09 UTC
You can farm all the amarr systems you want. Since the caldari now only have 4 systems you need to go down to amarr to make any real money in frog mil.

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.

Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#5 - 2013-01-06 09:02:39 UTC
Ohishi wrote:
You can farm all the amarr systems you want. Since the caldari now only have 4 systems you need to go down to amarr to make any real money in frog mil.


Because he just cant run broken missions in his own space for 3x, 4x LP than plexes. And because a mission can be done in 3 minutes, yes, he MUST go to amarr space to farm plex LP for 10 minutes at least....
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
#6 - 2013-01-06 09:22:54 UTC
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
Ohishi wrote:
You can farm all the amarr systems you want. Since the caldari now only have 4 systems you need to go down to amarr to make any real money in frog mil.


Because he just cant run broken missions in his own space for 3x, 4x LP than plexes. And because a mission can be done in 3 minutes, yes, he MUST go to amarr space to farm plex LP for 10 minutes at least....

Don't fill peoples heads with lies in a futile attempt to save the amarr from the plexing hoards of the frog brigade. You will lose your space as well and the FW farmville will continue adnauseum until there is nothing but ashes left in the hole that used to be faction warfare.

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.

Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-01-06 09:52:52 UTC
Confirming fw is broken again.
Saw yesterday hordes of gal plexers in f... cheap stabbed ships everywhere around lamaa and kam.
CCP should implement sth. that you can´t enter plex with stabbed ship.

[09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#8 - 2013-01-06 11:17:06 UTC
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
Ohishi wrote:
You can farm all the amarr systems you want. Since the caldari now only have 4 systems you need to go down to amarr to make any real money in frog mil.


Because he just cant run broken missions in his own space for 3x, 4x LP than plexes. And because a mission can be done in 3 minutes, yes, he MUST go to amarr space to farm plex LP for 10 minutes at least....

Of course, some of us would find the Gallente caming down to plex Amarr space preferable to them running their own missions and not impacting the warzone.

Saves us some trouble, you know?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
YuuKnow
The Scope
#9 - 2013-01-06 13:39:10 UTC
Ohishi wrote:
You can farm all the amarr systems you want. Since the caldari now only have 4 systems you need to go down to amarr to make any real money in frog mil.


frog mil?
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2013-01-06 14:38:46 UTC
Some lingo as I understand it -

Frogs: Gallente.
Squids: Caldari.
Slaves: Minmatar.
Masters: Amarr.

Caldari + Amarr: Calamari
Minmatar + Gallente: ?
YuuKnow
The Scope
#11 - 2013-01-06 15:54:47 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Minmatar + Gallente: ?


= AwesomeP
psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-01-06 16:25:29 UTC
Minmatar + gallente = AKfrogy7

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-01-06 16:48:45 UTC
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
Ohishi wrote:
You can farm all the amarr systems you want. Since the caldari now only have 4 systems you need to go down to amarr to make any real money in frog mil.


Because he just cant run broken missions in his own space for 3x, 4x LP than plexes. And because a mission can be done in 3 minutes, yes, he MUST go to amarr space to farm plex LP for 10 minutes at least....


Apparently you have never run a Gallente FW missions or know anything about them. I think most Gallente would rather run a plex over a mission, our missions are harder and take much longer than any other militia's. Caldari rats use boat loads of ECM and fire missiles, both of which makes them much harder. The missiles the rats use make stealth bombers with meta launchers, the ship the other militia's use to mission, not viable. Add to that the fact you are going to get ECM'ed 10,000 times, and you got your self a pretty good reason to take a vacation to Amarr territory. I run missions in a battlecruiser with 2 ECCM, I still get jamed out at least 4 times a mission (more on longer missions).
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#14 - 2013-01-06 18:47:25 UTC
Elvis Fett wrote:
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
Ohishi wrote:
You can farm all the amarr systems you want. Since the caldari now only have 4 systems you need to go down to amarr to make any real money in frog mil.


Because he just cant run broken missions in his own space for 3x, 4x LP than plexes. And because a mission can be done in 3 minutes, yes, he MUST go to amarr space to farm plex LP for 10 minutes at least....


Apparently you have never run a Gallente FW missions or know anything about them. I think most Gallente would rather run a plex over a mission, our missions are harder and take much longer than any other militia's. Caldari rats use boat loads of ECM and fire missiles, both of which makes them much harder. The missiles the rats use make stealth bombers with meta launchers, the ship the other militia's use to mission, not viable. Add to that the fact you are going to get ECM'ed 10,000 times, and you got your self a pretty good reason to take a vacation to Amarr territory. I run missions in a battlecruiser with 2 ECCM, I still get jamed out at least 4 times a mission (more on longer missions).


I've also heard the mainstay they used to be run with (ishtar/gila) isn't an option due to NPC mechanics targeting drones. Haven't tried it myself though since the patch, can anyone confirm/deny who has tried running gallente fw missions in a droneboat?
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#15 - 2013-01-06 19:01:11 UTC
chatgris wrote:

I've also heard the mainstay they used to be run with (ishtar/gila) isn't an option due to NPC mechanics targeting drones. Haven't tried it myself though since the patch, can anyone confirm/deny who has tried running gallente fw missions in a droneboat?

Confirming it's a PITA. Have to stay close to drones and recall them numerous times.
Dan Carter Murray
#16 - 2013-01-06 19:07:41 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
Confirming fw is broken again.
Saw yesterday hordes of gal plexers in f... cheap stabbed ships everywhere around lamaa and kam.
CCP should implement sth. that you can´t enter plex with stabbed ship.


nah just reset timer if enemy leaves and rats have interdictor point @ system upgrade 5

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Dan Carter Murray
#17 - 2013-01-06 19:08:54 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Some lingo as I understand it -

Frogs: Gallente.
Squids: Caldari.
Slaves: Minmatar.
Masters: Amarr.

Caldari + Amarr: Calamari
Minmatar + Gallente: ?


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Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#18 - 2013-01-06 23:04:17 UTC
Ohishi wrote:
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
Ohishi wrote:
You can farm all the amarr systems you want. Since the caldari now only have 4 systems you need to go down to amarr to make any real money in frog mil.


Because he just cant run broken missions in his own space for 3x, 4x LP than plexes. And because a mission can be done in 3 minutes, yes, he MUST go to amarr space to farm plex LP for 10 minutes at least....

Don't fill peoples heads with lies in a futile attempt to save the amarr from the plexing hoards of the frog brigade. You will lose your space as well and the FW farmville will continue adnauseum until there is nothing but ashes left in the hole that used to be faction warfare.


What lies? Go dock in any station - not like you'd leave Nourv to begin with - check LP for level4s. Now do the math! And no, spending half an hour on a mission with a bomber like a nooblet is not the way to farm. There are tier3 BCs and Rooks in this game for a reason.
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#19 - 2013-01-06 23:09:21 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
Confirming fw is broken again.
Saw yesterday hordes of gal plexers in f... cheap stabbed ships everywhere around lamaa and kam.
CCP should implement sth. that you can´t enter plex with stabbed ship.


CCP should implement sth. that you can't pose on forums as Amarr Militia when you do practically nothing for your faction.
What stops you from rolling your own stabbed farmer alts? Oh right, the miner alt, the 0.0 main and the OGB alts are all more important for you than FW.
And now don't take it personally I think you are actually kinda cool, this is meant for Amarr Militia in general. Forums threads or "kill boards" still wont change occupancy.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#20 - 2013-01-06 23:27:07 UTC
While all the super-anger in this thread is absolutely delicious, we should probably stay on topic.

OP: yes, you can cross-faction plex. You cannot help with bringing down an IHUB, though.

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