Ships & Modules

I would go with an Arbitrator for yourself and a Moa for your friend!

Arbitrator gets the tracking disruptor bonus so any with turrets is going to suffer especially if you put a few neuts in the high slots, you also get the advantage of carrying plenty of drones.

With the Moa you get bloody good tank out of them and still allot of DPS, with a utility mid for some ECCM or damp ect if you really want to, should tank fine if you are neuting someone and have them tracking disrupted from the arbitrator and are sat at the edge of neut range.

T1 cruisers are gimpy in general, especially Moa and Arby. If you want a cruiser droneboat, Vexor is far better, if you want a cruiser blasterboat... well, don't fly a cruiser blasterboat.

Any cane out there - and there are lots of them - will chew out your duo. It's a good idea to fly expendable frigs to get experience. Don't forget jump clones (socket closed, sucker! curtsey of CCP hamesters). Once you have the experience and SP, you will want to skip t1 cruiser and go directly to BC or HAC.

Look into RvB. It's a good way to get cheap fast pvp experience without being stomped on in the wild all the time.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Red_Vs_Blue_%28RvB%29

Duo?

2 Ham caracals with 1 web each.

No contest.



But you could also go 1 ham cara 1 rlml beli

Or 1 ham cara 1 Celestis (Because damps are the ****)


If you want to go balls deep and brawl i would suggest 2 dual prop thoraxes.



Also the MOA IS A BEAST... Just doesn't work very well without a group <.<




EDIT: After having actually read what you said i would say Omen (Although its a lolboat) and a caracal.. As a recovering Amarrfag i must tell you though that you might want to switch races right away.. It gets rather depressing <.<

T1 Cruisers are a lot more viable. Well fit battlecruisers will still kill them, but cruisers are faster so you can usually disengage before you die. Don't underestimate the ability of people to make dumb mistakes and fail-fit battlecruisers, though.

I know exactly how you feel about frigate fights. I usually have to read the lossmail and sleuth what the other guy's fit was from his loss mails to figure out what I did wrong. That means I don't really know what happened in any fight until the next day, which is somewhat frustrating.

Do you two plan on brawling with people or learning to do the kitey nanofaggotry type stuff?


Thorax's both armor and shield are good. Same goes for Omens and Arbitrators. HAM Caracals are bossly for more damage projection than a Moa will give you. Stabbers and Ruptures are nasty customers too, and the stabber is ungodly fast when fitted for it properly.

That being said, I would eschew using a support ship like the arby for the initial stages of your experiments. Since there are only two of you, you are going to lack dps to kill things quickly if one of you is in a support ship.

If you want to brawl I would say take an Omen/Maller for yourself and a Thorax or Moa for your buddy. Fit them like bricks and brawl whatever you can catch.

If you want to do range stuff go with a shield Omen for yourself and a HAM Caracal for your buddy. The omen fit this way is a paper plane but it flies a lot like the nano zealot, just with a little less damage projection.

I would not suggest going to pvp in a drone boat if you new to PVP, there is enough to worry about and still trying to remember to launch/retrieve drones. I would suggest go with an omen/maller and a caracal if you have missile skills or moa if you have blasters.

when duo, you should always consider one being the bait. so u could try a brick vexor and a gank shield fitted thorax.

Scythe and shield Thorax.

Arbitrator and Vexor

Arbitrator and anything

Two Caracals or Stabbers.

Just dont skip consistency, if you fly an armor Vexor and your friend a Caracal/Stabber then you will die at the first sign of trouble.

They won't really

The only real problem with that is that one is more of a kiter and the other a brawler.. Which can work up to some extent.


He might also have meant that 1 is armor and the other is shield in which case he is wrong.

If you are using one brawler then you should use one cruiser that supports that, an arby is great since it reduces turret damage, a scythe remote reps etc. If you don't the brawler runs the risk of getting killed relatively quickly. So either run two kiters to have better survivability or run a brawler with support.