EVE General Discussion

depends a little, generally i'd say a ship for ratting/exploration (isk grinder), and some ships to pvp in.

2) What are the most highly valued team-play capabilities in null - strongly suspect that to be the role of a logi pilot

3) enough time for skill logging, any time spent beond that is worth it.

4) depends on ur playstyle and where u wanna live

5) nah, just set settings and **** to low, hide brackets.

The desire, determination and friends.


Also having a cloaky ship of some sort can help you pass through camps. Really it is less skill (ccp/eve skills) and more personal skills and knowledge of the mechanics that will allow you to thrive. There are noobs that move out here with trial accounts and never turn back. Learning your area and how to defend against and avoid threats will allow you to thrive.

If you really need abc skill...well probing skills and a t2 bc or bs to rat or run plexes/rat..pvp well whatever you fly and your fleets call for.

no only if you listen to npc corp posters

okay here are my answers

1) 'making decent isk' decent ratting ship with damage resists against rat type.
Dos: Be willing to help out in what ways you can, be sociable and agreeable. Pay attention to intel channels, local.
Don'ts: Get mad at teammates and start drama, getting upset over getting your ratting ship tackled and a fleet not forming up instantly to save it

2) 'best skills' Social skills, attitude are honestly the most highly valued team-play capabilities in null. Also flying stuff in fleet that can't be used to ho on a killmail is also highly valued as people who do that are rare.

3) 'will it fit my schedule' Depends on which organization you've joined and the obligations behind it. Some are very strict and require expensive ships and ability to adhere to a schedule. Others have practically no obligations and fleets anyone over 5 months can fly in. This will require research on your part (remember 'easier' is not necessarily 'better'). "Wealth maintenance" activities depend on what you do to make that wealth. Options have certainly changed since 2007, namely the introduction of sov-based system upgrades like sanctums and grav sites.

4) 'which is the best route back to 0.0' Depends on the sort of action you're interested in. The South is in a period of regrowth and the North is always willing to take in new people. Again, which route is best for you depends on what you want.

Only move a small portion of your stuff at first. So you can get the feel of the corp/alliance/blue friends you will be dealing with on a daily basis. That way if it is not your cup of tea and you lose/leave behind your gear, it is no big deal. Find out what ship doctrines are used and try to get them there when you can easily afford it.
Being able to fly logi, provide bonuses or tackle are always welcomed and rarely never turned away.

Marathon sessions are not necessary. If you find yourself in an alliance demanding that and it is not your thing, then simply leave. It is not the alliance for you. That said I don't think there really is any alliances out there anymore that demands such things anyways. Just play when it works for you.

Most of the action is in the north east and down to the south east. As far as what corp and alliance to get into, just be honest with what you are looking for and make sure the alliance/corp fits those needs. It is your game time and you should be having fun. Not stressing about how you need to log in and go to a job.

EVE is one of the very few MMORPG games out there that scales really well with computers, especially on the lower end. That said, you should probably head to the part of the forums that discusses computer specs and such and give your exact computer specs there and I'm sure there will be an army of computer geeks running in to give you all the information you need on what needs to be addressed, if any.

So good luck, and have fun!

Just pony up the ten bills to join the SA forums, OP.

Then post something like "WTF is this space game y'all are ranting about" and you'll find yourself living fat, dumb and happy in null real fast.

Mr Epeen

I'm sure they can fit some nanos in the low or something :shobon: Mine came with meta nanos, I think. It also had guns, and ammo in it, funnily enough.

Don't the newbies use slashers now?

1) A lot of it depends on what you intend to do. Certainly you should inform yourself about your prospective alliance's policies towards CTA's and roams and what ship types they encourage their members to fly. You will need to provide your own combat ships, but most alliances have replacement programs to help defray the cost of losing these ships when on alliance sanctioned ops. So that's a start - the required ships, and the skills to use them. Many alliances have different attitudes towards moons, POSes and planets, so again you must inform yourself. Most of the time you must get permission to put up a tower and/or mine a moon. Most of the time said permission is granted, unless of course the moon is very valuable and being reserved for someone else. AFAIK most alliances encourage maximum tax rates on PI but planets are fairly open and you can do all the PI you want.

The main DO's and DON'T's are quite simple. Respect your alliance members. Respect your blues. Don't lock people unless they know and don't mind that you're horsing around. Likewise for shooting people. Participate in CTA's. Participate in roams. Don't have the carebear attitude of "the alliance exists to serve/protect ME". It's your alliance. What are YOU doing for it?

2) Logi is always, always welcome. You can never have enough logi. Most alliances switch between shield and armor doctrine, so pilots who can fly both types are even more precious. EWAR is also very valuable. If you can fly falcons with a lot of ewar skill, or if you're a rapier, pilgrim or arazu with recon 5, people will love you. Hictors/dictors as well. Can never have enough of those. Other than that, as I said before, find out which ships from the alliance's list of "approved" ships you are closest to skill-wise and train for that. Very few alliances fly "kitchen sink" fleets regularly. Usually fleets are highly organized nowadays.

3) That's hard to say. Ratting in a carier can get you 100M an hour. Running complexes takes a few hours and can net you a billion or more. Mining is not very lucrative unless you have multiple accounts and boosts. As for expenses, it really depends on how good you are, how lucky you are, and how often you play. The more you play, the more likely you are to lose ships. But also you're more likely to be able to afford to replace them. I spend several billion a week on ships, implants, POS fuel, jump fuel, etc. However I am very active and between this account and my 6 alts, I get a lot of kills too. Nullsec lets me afford that lifestyle, but I don't hoard isk so I'm usually break-even. When I have a billion or two in the wallet I go out and spend it. So the isk is there if you want it. How you spend it is up to you.

4) There's rental - large alliances hold lots of sov and rent out systems to renters in exchange for a monthly fee. Usually this fee is affordable, because most alliances are after regular income. But rental only entitles you to live in your system and be (light) blue to most in the region. It does not entitle you to use other people's systems. Also renting is considered the lowest rung on the ladder and scorned by most. Nothing is expected from renters except the rent and the terms of the agreement. And nothing extra is given to them either.

Then there's joining an alliance. Some alliances are always looking for new players/corps. Others won't allow it because they prefer to pick and choose "the cream of the crop". Still this has a lot of advantages over renting - you have more of a say in the running of your corp/alliance, you are expected to participate in ops, you usually have more access to neighboring coalitions' space, jump bridges, stations, etc. However you usually have to pay a membership fee either to your corp or to your alliance which goes towards the sov bills, JB POS costs, etc. As for best regions it's hard to say. West is goons/test space, south-east belongs to a new NC./nulli coalition, above that is Solar Fleet, etc. Look at a sov map and figure out where you want to go. There was a lot of fighting in my region (southeast) recently as -A- got booted. It's quiet for now. But that always changes quickly. Most of null goes through these quiet spells interspersed with violent life or death combat.

5) Probably not. My rig is about 3 years old and I have no problems at all. You might have to turn down some graphics settings since the client for some reason tends to demand a lot. Lag is always a problem only now we call it Time Dilation. It's a pretty ingenious solution from CCP since it slows everything down for everyone. However it doesn't always work as planned.

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