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So Elite got the green light!

I’m interested in what effect everyone thinks this will have on Eve?

Competition is good obviously from a certain point of view.

But I worry that a certain risk averse demographic of the Eve ecosystem will leave en masse, weakening the Eve economy and game in general.

Any thoughts?

Yep, everyone who has come to eve for their spaceship sci-fi fix may go elsewhere. I can see Star Citizen and Elite providing much more immersive and involved gameplay.

Hopefully, DUST 514 and WIS will be fully implemented before Elite is released.

Not sure how many of them are still live//relevant, or still in development nowadays.

Heck, I am not even sure I remember all of the supposed "EVE killers" names right (most of which were never even in a nearby gaming niche to begin with)...
Black Prophecy, Jumpgate Evolution, Taikodom, Star Trek Online, Star Wars - The Old Republic, Infinity - The Quest for Earth ?

And then of course, also, the others which were not exactly hoped to be "killers" but nevertheless are still space-related and at least MMO-adjacent...
Battlestar Galactica Online, Dark Orbit, Ace Online, Air Rivals, Vendetta Online ?

Maybe also worth mentioning, the ones in a vaguely similar niche but not exactly space-related, like Darkfall and World of Tanks. Or maybe even Tribes Ascend.

Also, of course, the defunct ones, but those are hardly worth remembering, so I won't really bother.

If you have played this game for any number of years then you have already seen the effect. Many times over. If you expect any effect other than the one we always have then please explain your reasoning with more than one sentence.

I'm not suggesting Eve is Doomed. But there has never been anything as close to Eve as this project.
Eve was openly based on Elite. Even the logo! And Braben has made it clear he's of the Anti-griefing camp.
The harshness and consequence of Eve is why it's still going strong 10 years on.
But how many players do we lose each week who cant see Eve for what it is.
I worry we'll lose even more with such a close - and less harsh alternative.
As much as the some of the pews would like it to be, Eve wouldn’t be the same without the carebear components.
We'll see I guess...

Funny thing about the so called EVE Killers is often the people predicting that tens of thousands of EVE players will probably play them are right.

People play more then one game. How many EVE players play WoW, or Guild Wars, or SWOTOR, or STO, or Tetris.

These two new "Big Giants" are mostly single player games with some multiplayer so even if they take forever to complete and you make it to the top of the arena circuit, ect how many people will really abandon their 30+ Mil SP characters, leave their friends and corps and dump everything that is EVE for a single player game. Anyone whodoesn't put a hold on their EVE time and actually quits is someone who has been tettering on the edge forever and probably has "quit" a few times already.

Actual effect, many will play it, a few will unsub and less permanently, online average might drop a bit then level off.

Know what an EVE Killer looks like. It has all the most important, most loved aspects of EVE but does them undeniably better with some new stuff thrown in a Sci Fi setting with a ton of money poured into advertisement to reach all the players whom word of mouth doesn't. Not only that but it has to be so incredibly spectacular that everyone is willing to give up their Carriers and Mach's and T3's on their well skilled characters to start from scratch. Finally it has to have endless content player made or otherwise to keep people from going back.

If it isn't all that most people will play it simultaneously. That is why I laugh when the jet fighters in space games get declared EVE Killers, some EVE players may like jet fighters in space but that game is a separate genre and most people here also like tactical games and EVE ships are big space Dreadnaughts slugging it out, our smallest ships are bigger then an apartment building.

At most these fake EVE Killers are actually just the other game I play whether they turn out successful or not. I might try one of these two games, not ready to hang up my Hurricane and if I do probably not for good.

Ok lets set this right, both Elite and Star Citizen are NOT MMO games. They are both "Sandbox" games but have less bells and whistles than eve, for instance the npc seeded markets. PvP will also be basically fully optional and "carebear".

They wont compete with EvE in the slightest.

If anything, i think both Elite and Star Citizen will bring more people into EVE...

the only people who think EVE will lose subscribers thanks to star citizen and elite are usually people who aren't satisfied enough with EVE in the first place, it's a redundant through and pointless argument.

people who are unsatisfied want a new toy... people who are satisfied are laughing because those new toys are just concepts.

I'm quitting. Bye! Frontier was the best game ever made and Dangerous will be amazing. DB always intimated that he wanted to produce an 'mmo' but not fall victim to instancing and 'the grind'. I think the way they're going about it is brilliant; you can play offline single player, or multiplayer balls deep in a persistent meta data environment.

Eve wise? No contest tbh. In Dangerous you actually pilot your ship. Its not a MUD In Space with RTS interface. Its twitch and gateless and literally vast, so vast, that if you want to be left alone, you can be! The game I always wanted Eve to be but obviously it never was and never will be. Eve was and is a trail blazing success. But its old and, however you dress it up, just DIKU in Space. I'm sure if Eve was being made today it would be like Dangerous thanks to the wonder of tech advances and cheap hardware. Not hatin' the Eve-O. Just glad there's going to be good alternatives. Hopefully good enough to heave-o the eve-o.

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