Missions & Complexes

Are there any threads that have really good basic information on how to run incursions or where to start. I've heard they're pretty brutal and that they require some top tier ships or you get smoked in seconds....but that really is the limit of my knowledge on them.

I'm looking for something more fun to do than missions, something with other people, to make isk.

I have 14.5 mil SP, so I'm not sure if I'm too fresh for them. I can fly up to BS for every race except Mini including T2 modules. Except I can only fit T2 guns when it comes to pulse lasers.

That's my hopes. I want a way to make money that isn't solo. Something I can do with other players so it's not boring like missions.

I'm trying to get some info first though so I don't try to join a group and get laughed out for being under-equipped or clueless.

Fitting information:

http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=guide&sid=1

Slightly outdated instructions:

http://incursionguide.wordpress.com/

Also I recommend to join

The Valhalla Project

chat channel for questions + it has more information in channel's MOTD.

1) Get a battleship, preferably a turret boat (preferably pirate faction, if not then navy, if not, then tier 3)
2) Omni shield tank it to get resists to about 70% or greater - do not fit any shield boosters or shield recharge things, that what the fleet's logistics ships will be fore
3) fit mods that increase your damage/help you apply damage (heatsink/gyrostab/mag field stab, Tracking computers, tracking enhancers, SeBos to allow you to lock targets faster so you can actually apply DPS to them before they pop)
4) Get in a fleet, focus fire with the rest of the fleet (follow tags), do not leeroy -if in assault or HQ fleets, as soon as the rats start yellow boxing you, broadcast for shields. For vanguards, broadcasts aren't needed, the logi should have all active members on their watchlist
6) Profit!
7) ??? (spend ISKies on a more expensive ship+ fittings, get in better fleets, repeat step 6 faster)


I feel like 6 and 7 should be swapped just for the joke

Ripard Tegg has released a series of guides to incursions starting with;

http://jestertrek.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/guide-introduction-to-incursions-part-1.html

The guides cover tags, your first steps, armour fits/fleets, shield fits/fleets and logistics and can be found in the guides list on the right.

The guides appear to be well written and factually correct but mostly they just say what the above sources have mentioned.

I can't afford a pirate faction ship at all, so it seems T1 BS is where i'm at. was hoping that running some incursions would give me enough of an income to do so.

So currently I'm looking at what ship i should focus on and either the abaddon or rokh seem to be the best turret ships I can afford to fly and fit t2 (i'll need a little more training to get t2 rails or beams on either.) They also have resist bonuses which i assume would help. I have been training up my missile skills lately but from what I read those are not desirable in incursions.

Would these be an acceptable ship to show up or will I get dusted in seconds? I'm leaning towards the abaddon because I am a lot closer to T2 lg beams than t2 rails.

edit* also I noticed that when I was looking at abaddon fits on the sites you kindly guided me to they're shield tanked even though that ship is bonused for armor resistance? wtf?