EVE General Discussion

I apologize you do not understand more complex English. Allow me to rephrase in layman terms;
You are making this a playstyle vs playstyle thing when you said that it isn't. You are a hypocrite.
Don't act like your playstyle is more important because individual playstyles, pvp or pve, aren't. The sum of all our in game actions is, both pvp and pve.

It is not a lie, I said I do not care what you do, not think. Clearly I believe your thought process is flawed thus my commentary. No I have no issue with what you do in Eve, because in the end, I profit from your actions (thank you for spreading death around so that my wares sell).

As for your..."chairmanship" comment, this once again speaks to the level of thought process you seem to have; being flawed.




Hm, it is Jenn. Apologies.

I understand very much what you are saying, and your words and opinion speak volumes about you. You so defend Eve and condemn anyone who does not share that vision to not being worth keeping in Eve. As you said, one person think's a game should be fun, as it should, yet you comdemned him. Volumes Jenn, volumes, in many leather bound books.

As for your grammar police comment, I apologize for holding the English language close to my heart.



Thank you for conceding in this argument and proving my point as correct and your's as incorrect. Though I will assume you will post more against me in the future, much like you did with Anslo after you "placed" him on your ignore list.

May your kills be many and your profits positive. Good day.

Talk about rose-tinted glasses. If by this you mean "when there were fewer players there was fewer competition for various scarce resources so I could AFK mine in peace but now I can't," then maybe this statement make some type of sense. If you actually meant EVE was happy carebear land years ago then you're just flagrantly stupid.

I highlighted the part you chose to ignore. I spoke of the community, not the game. People still scammed and killed etc etc. But the community overall was tight knit despite differing playstyles...well maybe not moo but, whatever.

Whether you afk mined, industrialized, pirated, built empires, or ran missions, people didn't care. They were still decent people, friendly, we were a community.

Now we have people like Jenn tearing a rift down the middle of what was once a tight and passionate community by positioning players in an "us vs. them" style. It's sad.

Be careful about applying real world morality to other people in a video game - it simply doesn't apply. The only rules are those laid down by the EULA, and other than those, anything goes. I believe the forums should be a place for civil discussion, but what I believe and what actually happens are two different things. That's not to say I don't try, though, and I rapidly lose respect for people that can't refrain from personal attacks or spiteful accusations. I can also no longer take those people seriously, regardless of what they're arguing and whether I agree or disagree.

Apply your morality to yourself in game, but don't try to apply it to anyone else. As much as you want to have fun playing it your way, so too do they. Everyone expects something from EVE, and people who don't get what they expect should leave. Why people put themselves through a disappointing experience time and again is confusing - Jenn is right about that. However, the way he argues it, though, makes him look like a hyperactive 12 year old who thinks they're cooler than they are. And he doesn't consider the degree to which a person with a complaint might be enjoying or not enjoying the game. Someone who enjoys, say, 90% of the game's content has a reason to stay, but also has that 10% margin for improvement that they would like to see implemented, so they make a forum post about it.

People who aren't interested in that person's 10% improvement will respond in one of three ways: ignore the post and move on, disagree and debate the 10% rationally and civilly, or make attacks and accusations against the OP and proponents of the idea. Even if the idea is really bad, so much can be said without the attacks and accusations, and it's the last group that does nothing for the productive growth of the game they claim to love.

Holy crap this thread. Get over yourselves people.

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More players = more posts. One would think that was obvious.

In fact it does not. You asserted that in the past, people just got along. I showed that this was in no way true. Then you said volume had increased. This is due to player count. For your latest argument to be true, your first argument would need to be correct. It wasn't.

Actually, that's exactly what happens. Not by a majority, but increasing the population will almost certainly increase the negativity.

Every new person introduces one more unique perspective that can be disagreed with, so each new person multiplies the potential disagreements exponentially, and there will always be a few bad eggs in the bunch ready to jump down someone's throat just because they disagree. Increase the population = increase the number of disagreements = increase the number of bad eggs.

Additionally, there will always be new people coming into the game who don't know as much as they think they do, and they always add to the drama.