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Super Cap & Titan Baby Sitting
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Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-01-04 13:05:01 UTC
Oh no, those poor titan pilots.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
Kestrix
The Whispering
#22 - 2013-01-04 13:06:16 UTC
Taharqua10 wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
So you didn't think about the fact that you'd be trapping your character in a titan in all the time you had to train for it?


Yes I did. However, after 2 years of being in one- I have got itchy feet!


Sell your Titan and go stretch your legs.
Oosel
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-01-04 13:14:35 UTC
the fact that they are coffins once in them is the biggest reason ill never set foot in one
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#24 - 2013-01-04 13:48:40 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah, because it totally has nothing to do with the fact that supers and titans now have rather niche roles, none of which particularly requiring that they put themselves at risk.
And yet the supers come crawling out whenever there's a no-risk gank situation. Funny how that works, eh?

Before they we nerfed into niche roles, you could just pour more on the field and remove the sub-cap risk, they weren't any more at risk back then, and their usage pattern is the same now risk-wise.

They are still perfectly viable as offensive ships, but at risk if you field them that way. Thus, nobody does it out of fear for the KB shame Lol
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-01-04 13:57:25 UTC
Want to have some fun with it? Go find a ratting carrier to doomsday.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2013-01-04 14:54:02 UTC
Ptraci wrote:

I mean seriously, if you're proposing some sort of stucture where a titan can dock up, like a CSMA, I'm not sure that's a good idea. I'm not even sure allowing titans inside a POS bubble is a good idea because lo and behold, this is where most titans live out their lives 23/7.

Sure, create a CSMA. However I propose that any POS with a CSMA anchored has 1/2 shield strength, no resists, and no reinforcement. So instead of baby-sitting your super, you can baby-sit your POS instead.


You do realize CSMAs exist already?
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-01-04 15:01:07 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Kerdrak wrote:
At least, when supers were not ultra-nerfed they could be used more often. Now is paying the subscription for bridging fleets (or popping ihubs in case of SCs)

The problem is not the nerf, is that CCP can't find a true role for super caps.


No, it's the players who are afraid to use their super-caps for fear of losing them. Supers seem to turn people into care-bears, with some notable exceptions. That and the plague of NAP/NIPs all over nullsec that has brought structure grinding to a halt. More or less.



I thought when you get at that point you're not risk averse anymore ... I was wrong and I was told lies !

@Op: Sell it, sell zdat toon. Buy lower sp toon, buy lots of ships and have fun. You choose to sit on a Titan you choose to accept the game play that goes with.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#28 - 2013-01-04 15:05:24 UTC
Taharqua10 wrote:
Did I say this- forgive me because I must have gone blind or am suffering from amnesia. The issue is not one of being bored, being scared of using the ship or any other reason. This post is about being tied into a ship type which is unique only to 2 classes of ship in Eve. Do not stand on your soap box because you still have the choice of being able to dock & change ship & tactics.

I'm not complaining about any of this and as I said it is down to choices but I wish CCP would relax a little & perhaps look at making our lives a bit more palatable.



http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Capital_Ship_Maintenance_Array

You're welcome.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Xtover
Cold Moon Destruction.
#29 - 2013-01-04 15:07:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Xtover
Xercodo wrote:

Go down in a ball of fire and mining lasers like the Ragnarok pilot that didnt think titans were worth it anymore


Are we related?

This seriously is creepy.
Taharqua10
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-01-04 15:41:35 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Taharqua10 wrote:
Did I say this- forgive me because I must have gone blind or am suffering from amnesia. The issue is not one of being bored, being scared of using the ship or any other reason. This post is about being tied into a ship type which is unique only to 2 classes of ship in Eve. Do not stand on your soap box because you still have the choice of being able to dock & change ship & tactics.

I'm not complaining about any of this and as I said it is down to choices but I wish CCP would relax a little & perhaps look at making our lives a bit more palatable.



http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Capital_Ship_Maintenance_Array

You're welcome.


Park ship in array........go do shopping......oh dear.......POS is reinforced.......can't get back into ship.......can't rep POS back up in time......Oh dear.....hostile fleet is back......POP............goes looking for a new ship......mmmmm..... that worked well but thanks for your help.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#31 - 2013-01-04 15:42:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
Ptraci wrote:

I mean seriously, if you're proposing some sort of stucture where a titan can dock up, like a CSMA, I'm not sure that's a good idea. I'm not even sure allowing titans inside a POS bubble is a good idea because lo and behold, this is where most titans live out their lives 23/7.

Sure, create a CSMA. However I propose that any POS with a CSMA anchored has 1/2 shield strength, no resists, and no reinforcement. So instead of baby-sitting your super, you can baby-sit your POS instead.


You do realize CSMAs exist already?


Yeah, call me when you manage to park a titan in one, Mr. pedant.

EDIT: Just for clarification I am given to understand they will not hold supers and titans, only "capital ships".
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#32 - 2013-01-04 15:45:41 UTC
Taharqua10 wrote:
Park ship in array........go do shopping......oh dear.......POS is reinforced.......can't get back into ship.......can't rep POS back up in time......Oh dear.....hostile fleet is back......POP............goes looking for a new ship......mmmmm..... that worked well but thanks for your help.


Oh, so you want risk and effort free storage for the supercapital that you bought knowing full well that you couldn't dock it. I see.


It's also clear that you don't know how POSes work under RF. Read the description of the CSMA again.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#33 - 2013-01-04 15:47:43 UTC
Taharqua10 wrote:
. The issue is not one of being bored, being scared of using the ship or any other reason. This post is about being tied into a ship type which is unique only to 2 classes of ship in Eve.


I don't get why you're limited, I mean any more than someone who has maxxed out dreadnaught skill for a particular race, or carrier skill for a particular race. Nothing is stopping you from training something else, except time. And if time is the problem then you know what the standard EVE answer is...htfu Smile
Taharqua10
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-01-04 15:54:01 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Taharqua10 wrote:
Park ship in array........go do shopping......oh dear.......POS is reinforced.......can't get back into ship.......can't rep POS back up in time......Oh dear.....hostile fleet is back......POP............goes looking for a new ship......mmmmm..... that worked well but thanks for your help.


Oh, so you want risk and effort free storage for the supercapital that you bought knowing full well that you couldn't dock it. I see.


It's also clear that you don't know how POSes work under RF. Read the description of the CSMA again.


Don't really matter whether I know or not....I'm not parking my ship in one-EVER-so up yours Mr. Smart Ar*e
Taharqua10
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-01-04 15:55:59 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Taharqua10 wrote:
. The issue is not one of being bored, being scared of using the ship or any other reason. This post is about being tied into a ship type which is unique only to 2 classes of ship in Eve.


I don't get why you're limited, I mean any more than someone who has maxxed out dreadnaught skill for a particular race, or carrier skill for a particular race. Nothing is stopping you from training something else, except time. And if time is the problem then you know what the standard EVE answer is...htfu Smile


You are limited because you can't safely store your ship other than using an alt if you want to use another ship or go shopping for shinnies in empire. You are ever restricted to using an alt to do all your fetching and carrying.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-01-04 15:57:55 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Yeah, call me when you manage to park a titan in one, Mr. pedant.

EDIT: Just for clarification I am given to understand they will not hold supers and titans, only "capital ships".


I've parked my old Nyx in a CSMA (only long enough to do a clone upgrade, not stupid enough to keep one parked in there long-term)

They have the volume to accommodate titans, but I'm not about to test it because a) I don't have a titan and b) even if I did I wouldn't be PARKING IT LIKE AN IDIOT WHO FLIES OTHER SHIPS ON HIS SUPERCAP CHARACTER and c) even if I was such an idiot I'd use a holding character.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Kerdrak
Querry Moon
#37 - 2013-01-04 16:02:52 UTC
I'm surprised: 90% of the replies here are based on ignorance and jealousy.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-01-04 16:05:43 UTC
Andski wrote:
Want to have some fun with it? Go find a ratting carrier to doomsday.


The fun part is where you're playing cat and mouse for the longest 10 minutes of your life with an ever-growing gang trying to land a dictor on you while you're warping around between safespots without the ability to cloak

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Ahvram
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-01-04 16:07:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Ahvram
Its clear to see the people in this thread that have no clue what they are talking about. To the OP yes I agree there should be a way to offline the ship after and extended period of time so you dont have to just sit in it. I have 2 good friends in EVE who are Titan pilots and they say the same exact thing as the OP.

You train for the most powerful ship in the game only to find out its nothing but a flying coffin and your game play experiance tanks because you can do nothing else with your extremely high skilled character unless you have and alt that can sit in it for you and that IMO seems kind of a foolish way to deal with the issue on CCPs part.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-01-04 16:15:03 UTC
Ahvram wrote:
Its clear to see the people in this thread that have no clue what they are talking about. To the OP yes I agree there should be a way to offline the ship after and extended period of time so you dont have to just sit in it. I have 2 good friend in EVE who are Titan pilots and they say the same exact thing as the OP.

You train for the most powerful ship in the game only to find out its nothing but a flying coffin and your game play experiance tanks because you can do nothing else with your extremely high skilled character unless you have and alt that can sit in it for you and that IMO seems kind of a foolish way to deal with the issue on CCPs part.


Yeah, uh, no. Anyone training for a titan and dedicating 100b+ to buying and fitting one should already understand the drawbacks of owning one. If you want to freely be able to use your titan character in other ships, get a holding alt. I personally never bothered with that nonsense when I had my Nyx because I had the foresight to get a character exclusively specialized in capitals.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
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