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Static High Sec Worm Holes and possible fixed spawning regions
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Lyell Wolf
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-01 17:06:32 UTC
Hello,

I was wondering if Static High sec Worm Holes have a, more or less, fixed set of regions they will spawn in? Such as the Amarr region or Minmatar. Some Static Worm Holes seem to spawn in Amarr space 90% of the time whilst others will be more inclined to spawn in minmatar space.

I am hoping to hear it is completely random, but so far it doesn't seem that way. I can hardly expect CCP to reveal exactly how Worm Hole statics decide where to spawn, but there must be enough speculation to form a semi solid idea.

Fly safe,
-Lyell
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-01 17:14:25 UTC
Lyell Wolf wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering if Static High sec Worm Holes have a, more or less, fixed set of regions they will spawn in? Such as the Amarr region or Minmatar. Some Static Worm Holes seem to spawn in Amarr space 90% of the time whilst others will be more inclined to spawn in minmatar space.

I am hoping to hear it is completely random, but so far it doesn't seem that way. I can hardly expect CCP to reveal exactly how Worm Hole statics decide where to spawn, but there must be enough speculation to form a semi solid idea.

Fly safe,
-Lyell


I have seen it be pretty random. Keep in mind Amarr is the largest empire so they have more HS systems to begin with. This can skew the feeling of randomness.
Omen Nihilo
Omen Holdings
#3 - 2013-01-01 18:17:55 UTC
It's random.
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-01-02 00:48:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxandrolone
Omen Nihilo wrote:
It's random.



The k162 side of wormholes has a random element to where it spawns but it is defiantly not totally random.

If the OP wants to verify the claim he is making he needs to amass an enormous amout of data and then interprit it. Track every single wormhole it leads to and what k-space system its in then factor in that different races have different size regions.
Brawyn78
4 Marketeers
Rura-Penthe
#5 - 2013-01-02 04:31:43 UTC
the wormhole connections are not completely random ... but I have not seen anything that would lead me to believe that any given Anoikis system favors connecting to any particular New Eden region over time ... in the short term it may appear that your Anoikis system seems to favor a particular region or even a particular constellation (if you chain collapse quickly enough) but fear not .. your system will move on shortly
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-04 07:52:33 UTC
Omen Nihilo wrote:
It's random.


It's sort of random. There's some predictability due to the layout of systems.

You see Amarr a lot because they represent more than 25% of the available systems in high-sec for wormhole spawning.

I've found that we don't get Caldari systems very often. I think this is because they're usually quite full of signatures, and there's some kind of max # of K162s or something in a constellation. Completely guessing here, just what I have observed over the last 8 months of having a high-sec static.

If I were to give rough numbers I would say:
35% Amarr (Kador, Domain, Tash Murkon, Genesis, anything within 10 jumps of Amarr and not closer to another hub).
25% Gallente (Sinq Laison, Essence, Solitude, Verge Vendor, Placid)
20% Minmatar (Metropolis, Heimatar, Derelik)
15% Caldari (Lonetrek, The Forge, The Citadel, Black Rise? I think they have a couple high-secs)
5% Other (Ammatar, Khanid space greater than 10 jumps away from any major hub)


We see a wormhole near Amarr ROUGHLY 1 out of 3, but sometimes they're back to back to back (making it feel like we see them more often).

Fun fact; if your wormhole pops after downtime (you didn't force it to spawn) you're very likely to find at least 1 other wormhole of your class and static types (sometimes even the same region/constellation) within 5 jumps. I base this again, on absolutely nothing but poking our noses into other people's business within 5 jumps of our high-sec.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#7 - 2013-01-04 14:20:38 UTC
That's an interesting fun-fact. It's probably partially clock-based, just because most random things are.

Anyways, pretty much what people have been saying. It's random, but there's a lot of Amarr space.

I suspect the reason you rarely find yourself in Caldari space is most likely not maximum sigs. I think there are two factors in play:

1) There are systems where wormholes cannot spawn. Jita, for one. I think several of the systems that connect to Jita may have similar restrictions, I've never seen a hole spawn closer than 2 jumps from Jita.

2) Holes close to Jita are likely to see a lot of traffic, either from hisec explorers or from w-space people running logistics. Even if it's your static, if someone else rolls into your system and finds a link near Jita, they're going to use the hell out of it. I know we've rolled plenty of other people's holes doing that.

So, unless you just sit there and chain-roll your static, odds are good that you are getting more connections than you think, but some of them are being used up before you ever see them.
B0T0
Dzieci we mgle
#8 - 2013-01-04 15:00:00 UTC  |  Edited by: B0T0
jonnykefka wrote:

1) There are systems where wormholes cannot spawn. Jita, for one. I think several of the systems that connect to Jita may have similar restrictions, I've never seen a hole spawn closer than 2 jumps from Jita.


Yesterday we found c2 with wormhole to k-space one jump from Jita ;]

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