Out of Pod Experience

Propaganda is often indistinguishable from PR. Before WWI, propaganda didn't have the negative connotations it does today. In fact, if you put aside your bias, you would find that even if this was propaganda, you might find some logic in it.

But I'm probably expecting too much from an Amarr... in GD... when I start talking about logic...

The problem really is that lowsec and null are full of problems. Lots of people in hisec would like to use all the empty space in 0.0 but currently the only way to do that is to join an existing alliance. Not everyone wants to join one of the 5 big alliances just to experience 0.0, and that should be something CCP considers.

All they really have to do is design a 'sandbox' area similar to this which allows more people and different groups to all take part, and they have this beat.

Want that 0.0 space? take it just like the present incumbents did.

You can always try to scam the scamer. Every time i dock in Rens i get some mails with offers like "I move to Null and sell all my rigged faction ships for a discount price". Got a perfectly fine cruiser (can't remember what it was) for like 150k ISK once, friend of mine got a Megatron for 2M ISK. You don't have to be a genius to figure out how that works.

So there are consequences, if they don't pay attention. Have to admit something like that may only work with a few of the scams.

So much hate in this thread, mainly from the nullbears who think the only way to play is their way...

There are tons of people who do not like the way eve is and you can see SC is going to cater toward that playerbase, so then why is there so much hate?

Shouldn't you be happy that SC is going to help keep the so called "Carebears" placid in another universe?

I honestly think so of the idea's proposed by the dev's are quite good and cater toward my playstyle more then Eve does, so I will be trying it when it is released. Does that mean I will give up eve? Hell no, because I can keep my sub up with ISK there is no point for me to stop training skills.

I don't even know why most of you feel so hurt by that community that you have to post about it when in the end you where not going to leave Eve because it caters to your playstyle.

In the end there is nothing wrong with a company trying to cater toward a community that wants freedom and safety, instead of Eve's freedom and harshness.

man this guy flew with goon, he knows his stuff

This.

Best drama nullbears drama ;)

Imagine all carebears move to star citizen, ofc this never happens but try imagine this hapens in future, result, river of crocodile tears from nullbears, just because EvE without all these pve aspect, industry, hi sec economy, hi sec activity, EvE become rip game, fact.

Hi sec and people who living here are CORE of this game, adap to this, you damn blob slaves

How else are you gonna drop SBU's and guard them till they are anchored and then onlined without being ninja'd then reinforce stations and ihubs/destroy poses, flip stations over the course of a few days reinforcement timers all the while making sure your SBU's dont get killed and the enemy doesn't rep his stuff over a multitude of timezones?

EDIT: Dont forget to guard your own TCU while it onlines for 8 hours haha!

Just for context: it takes a subcapital fleet of 255 dudes in battleships about 15-20 minutes to do one of these 'reinforcements' that need to be done through shield, armor and structure. Dreadnoughts are a lot better, supercaps/titans = best for reinforcing stuff. How will you do these things with your less than thousands of people? What if it gets contested?? Who will fight/guard you if the enemy comes to rep his stuff? Are you gonna tell him he needs to have e-honour and not bring a lot of dudes cuz you just want one system?

How dare the United States Navy be able to protect America and its interests, they should split the navy into like 55 sub navies and put caps on their troop and ship counts and never allow more than one subnavy to be in the same theater as another.

Maybe i'm blind, but where is "hate" in this thread? Or is that your word for "disagreement" and "discussion"?

There are hundreds of MMOs out there with the "safety" some players try to push into EVE. There are only a few with the HTFU attitude like EVE (or how should we name that?).

I like EVE the way it is and why should i not defend that? I'm also interested that SC develops into a HTFU game because otherwise it is not interesting for me and i would like to have more choice in what games i can play that actually appeal to me.

On the other hand if it develops into something that appeals to all the cearbears and you finally stop demanding complete safety because you are busy hauling stuff in SC, that would be a win too.

But.. I strongly believe that if SC goes that way, there will be so many missing parts to a working economy because in complete safety there is no destruction, no meaning, no fraking incentive to play the game for more than a few weeks. It will finally end as a second STO, where there is no economy, no market to sell ships or modules. So you end up in a ghost game that resembles a singe player game with a fancy chat room.

And after you arrived there, you will come back to EVE and start to demand safety again...