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Goonswarm Federation is a Design Constraint in Star Citizen?!

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-01-04 05:35:42 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/forum/showthread.php?13832-A-word-of-Warning&highlight=online

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P1. Rewarding players with overpowered, indestructible, game content such as special ships that are fully insured is a disaster waiting to happen.

Why?

You are creating a class of player that will be immune to the consequences of destruction and giving them the ability to destroy lower class players assets with zero risk to their own. This will pave the way to elitist griefing on epic scales.

lollll, getting rid of insurance will stop suicide ganking

i take it they're assuming SC will have their own version of space CONCORD


I ******* love the first response in that thread

Quote:
Before anyone does anything about this post, I want you to remember one thing...if you feed them they will keep coming back.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#42 - 2013-01-04 05:36:17 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I love how they post "CCP are short on cash" without providing a citation.

Yep, that's exactly why they're launching a whole new game on PS3 soon. I'm sure everyone who starts running out of money just goes ahead and starts spending more on new games.

Someone should reply with the good old Citation Needed then.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#43 - 2013-01-04 05:37:02 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I ******* love the first response in that thread
Quote:
Before anyone does anything about this post, I want you to remember one thing...if you feed them they will keep coming back.

Hooked on you ~~~

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-01-04 05:40:17 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I love how they post "CCP are short on cash" without providing a citation.

Yep, that's exactly why they're launching a whole new game on PS3 soon. I'm sure everyone who starts running out of money just goes ahead and starts spending more on new games.

Someone should reply with the good old Citation Needed then.


I would have, but the moment is gone.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
foxnod
Perkone
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-01-04 05:42:32 UTC
I guess we can safely say that there's no threat to eve's survival from SC.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#46 - 2013-01-04 05:42:47 UTC
Looks like we have found Bat Countries new holiday home. Wonder how long before I can get a death threat and other such bad posting.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#47 - 2013-01-04 05:45:26 UTC
I like reading threads like these, their forum I mean. It shows how narrow-minded people are. It's like they don't understand why monolithic organisations form in the first place and how a persistent game would suck without being designed for them.

I was hoping that Star Citizen would be freelancer in space. Or maybe X-wing versus Tie Fighter. It sounds like it will be nothing of these but some shambled attempt at making an EvE sandbox without any sand to play in.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2013-01-04 05:46:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Looks like we have found Bat Countries new holiday home. Wonder how long before I can get a death threat and other such bad posting.


I can't even be bothered subbing. I've subbed onto SWTOR PvE server to learn the game and the level of pathetic there is disgusting... I will check out the PvP server soon, but my hopes are not high. I cba with any other MMO save EVE. SW I signed on for because I'm a SW fan from way back in 1983 when I was cute little tike with Luke Skywalker figurines, and the story game isn't half bad - not as good as KOTOR but I haven't finished it yet. When I finish it, I'll be deciding whether or not to remain subbed and check out the PvP server.

As for SC... not happening. They can't have my money under any circumstances. I already wasted enough when I bought the first WC.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Newsflash
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-01-04 05:48:14 UTC
sounds like a game i would jump screaming into and leave eve behind.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2013-01-04 05:49:52 UTC
I don't get what the hell they're talking about by "special ships that are fully insured".
Unless they mean rookie ships, then... lol.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#51 - 2013-01-04 05:53:21 UTC
Now that one is for the psychology department:
http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/forum/showthread.php?14052-This-game-making-anyone-else-sick&highlight=online

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So after pledging over $500 in various ships during the pledge campaign, a Constellation, M50, a Cutlass, and 2 300i, I now have gifted them all away and am left with my digital scout Aurora. Mainly because I also fly RC and that money will go a long way toward the 1/4 scale Albatros I want and can fly for the next 2 years or until I crash it at least. My wife says my hobbies are always expensive. Oh well.

Yeah, that urge to pay $500 for a non existing not yet implemented internet spaceship...
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-01-04 05:53:55 UTC
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't get what the hell they're talking about by "special ships that are fully insured".
Unless they mean rookie ships, then... lol.

P2W maybe. I'll wait and see what the actual rules look like on SC, but it doesn't appear to be very sandboxey.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Diamond Bull
Doomheim
#53 - 2013-01-04 05:55:58 UTC
Karak Terrel wrote:
Diamond Bull wrote:
I just want a good spaceship MMO where people can't get away with constantly screwing each other. I still have hope for SC.


Well, whats wrong with STO for you? I didn't find it appealing because you can't constantly screwing each other. So it should be what you are looking for?





I really hated the planet side combat and I never found a good community of people to play with. It quickly became a single player game for me and it wasn't compelling enough for that. I do still play it on occasion. I even enjoy the instanced PvP at times.


I never did find Sulu though.
EglantinFinfleur
Ecpyrosis
#54 - 2013-01-04 05:56:20 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:


I have been reading the SC forums tonight to pass some time, and I am truly amazed at the level of carebearism and pubbyism being displayed. They make brilliant threads that are putting EVE entitlement threads to shame such as


  • The ability for individuals to be more powerful than organized groups (for teh balancez)
  • The ability to pause the game during PVP to go to the bathroom
  • The ability for people who prefer single player to upload their progress to the main server so they can grind offline (no way to exploit this)


They are afraid of PVP, antisocial, risk averse, and want 15 different games rolled into one. Sound familiar?

Why am I posting this here? Because CCP loves to listen to these kinds of whiners and has lost their HTFU philosophy. I'm concerned that this new alcove of carebearism is going to overfill into our community and ruin it forever. CCP, I am truly begging you. Guard, Greyscale, Eterne, PLEASE DO NOT SUCCUMB TO THESE KINDS OF PEOPLE.



Abloobloo abloobloo people want to play a game in which everyone has fun, instead of a Schadenfreude generator where the fun is had in making people rage.

LOL at you and your kind
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-01-04 05:56:42 UTC
Diamond Bull wrote:
I just want a good spaceship MMO where people can't get away with constantly screwing each other. I still have hope for SC.


Nobody can get away with screwing each other, but it's up to players to deliver the consequences. I can see why you dislike this.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Hannah Flex
#56 - 2013-01-04 05:58:10 UTC
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2013-01-04 06:00:57 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
EglantinFinfleur wrote:
Abloobloo abloobloo people want to play a game in which everyone has fun, instead of a Schadenfreude generator where the fun is had in making people rage.

LOL at you and your kind

How about you be responsible for your own fun? Jesus, people these days...
If you're not having fun with this game, don't play this game or try doing something else.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Diamond Bull
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-01-04 06:01:07 UTC
Andski wrote:
Diamond Bull wrote:
I just want a good spaceship MMO where people can't get away with constantly screwing each other. I still have hope for SC.


Nobody can get away with screwing each other, but it's up to players to deliver the consequences. I can see why you dislike this.




Scam in Jita on an alt and never undock with them. Consequences?


Make Alt, Suicide Gank in Niarja, never use for anything else. Consequences?


Attack a newbie with no PvP experience and get the jollies. Consequences?


There are many ways in Eve to screw people and escape the consequences. If you don't realize this you're doing it wrong.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-01-04 06:03:56 UTC
EglantinFinfleur wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:


I have been reading the SC forums tonight to pass some time, and I am truly amazed at the level of carebearism and pubbyism being displayed. They make brilliant threads that are putting EVE entitlement threads to shame such as


  • The ability for individuals to be more powerful than organized groups (for teh balancez)
  • The ability to pause the game during PVP to go to the bathroom
  • The ability for people who prefer single player to upload their progress to the main server so they can grind offline (no way to exploit this)


They are afraid of PVP, antisocial, risk averse, and want 15 different games rolled into one. Sound familiar?

Why am I posting this here? Because CCP loves to listen to these kinds of whiners and has lost their HTFU philosophy. I'm concerned that this new alcove of carebearism is going to overfill into our community and ruin it forever. CCP, I am truly begging you. Guard, Greyscale, Eterne, PLEASE DO NOT SUCCUMB TO THESE KINDS OF PEOPLE.



Abloobloo abloobloo people want to play a game in which everyone has fun, instead of a Schadenfreude generator where the fun is had in making people rage.

LOL at you and your kind


I have to admit... it would be fun blowing you up. Why must you deny me my fun? Can't you just hold still in a shuttle and let me blow you up?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2013-01-04 06:04:14 UTC
Diamond Bull wrote:
Scam in Jita on an alt and never undock with them. Consequences?

You earn a reputation and will never be able to do anything else with that character even if you wanted to.

Diamond Bull wrote:
Make Alt, Suicide Gank in Niarja, never use for anything else. Consequences?

Lose security status that you have to regain, have public killrights placed on you and bounties other players may want to claim.

Diamond Bull wrote:
Attack a newbie with no PvP experience and get the jollies. Consequences?

A very long, free vacation from CCP.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)