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NBSI Nullsec = Fail

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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#21 - 2013-01-04 02:14:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
There's a tipping point where you get players who play to win at any cost, biting, scratching, beating anything in their way, in otherwords saturated with predator's, this is where we are at, they've chased all the sheeple away, but now since there's no sheep to feed on the predators feed on one another carving out their hunting grounds.

But it's reached a point that now battle lines are drawn and no predator with the mind set of survival will give up anything in fears of being weak.

Ever wonder why Goonswarm doesn't move on??? They've done everything that can be done defeated and rolled in hi sec at will disrupting anything they please, their corp mates are wealthy especially after that FW fiasco.
Simple, fear of walking away from top dog position same as those dictators in the middle east couldn't walk away even though they could have.
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#22 - 2013-01-04 02:37:29 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
If it ain't blue, shoot it. Corpmates are green and fleet members are purple...

-Liang


So if your color blind is it ok just to shoot everything? Makes things a whole lot simpler.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#23 - 2013-01-04 02:43:46 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
If it ain't blue, shoot it. Corpmates are green and fleet members are purple...

-Liang


So if your color blind is it ok just to shoot everything? Makes things a whole lot simpler.


Speaking as a fellow color blind pilot, I endorse this course of action and follow it myself.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#24 - 2013-01-04 02:43:49 UTC
NRDS provides a loophole for neutral groups to invade a alliance's space easily. That is why NBSI exists: to prevent unwanted groups from entering their space that they fight and pay to keep.

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt

Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-01-04 02:47:05 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
From what I remember, the bad political desisions would have been seen as CVA being terrible roleplaying scrubs, and maybe a little more roaming attention being paid to them. With Dominion poping up Havens and Sanctums in every system at the time, it suddenly became worth it to kick them out and use the space to farm anoms, rather than deal with a minor nuisance.

You could not be more hilariously far from the truth...

Enlighten us, oh wise one.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-01-04 02:49:46 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Enlighten us, oh wise one.


"Truesec, what is it?"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-01-04 02:52:35 UTC
Also NRDS is a stupid policy because there is no reason why you should be able to use my space at your leisure if you do not take part in fighting for it, do not pay taxes to keep the bills paid and otherwise contribute nothing when you're killing everything but the cruisers in anomalies, mining only ABCM in grav sites and otherwise giving our members a hard time.

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-01-04 02:53:00 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Eh, IIRC the primary motivator for them getting booted from their space was them making some ******** political decisions. Everyone likes CVA holding space because it's a good way to keep your PVPers entertained.


CVA is literally the semi-more-******** IRC of the south.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#29 - 2013-01-04 02:53:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Lykouleon wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
From what I remember, the bad political desisions would have been seen as CVA being terrible roleplaying scrubs, and maybe a little more roaming attention being paid to them. With Dominion poping up Havens and Sanctums in every system at the time, it suddenly became worth it to kick them out and use the space to farm anoms, rather than deal with a minor nuisance.

You could not be more hilariously far from the truth...

Enlighten us, oh wise one.


The bad political decision, IIRC, was trying to take a station from -A- while they were otherwise occupied fighting Goons. -A- took exception to the attempt and U'K helped push CVA out of Providence. IIRC -A- and U'K had some fun with it and roleplayed it up with CVA. CVA put up a good couple of fights in the beginning (and by good fight I mean massive bloodbath where U'K and -A- took no losses), but after only a few it became a tedious affair of knocking over a million stations.

-Liang

Ed: I was not involved in this campaign and could have some of the details wrong. But I'm near positive about them trying to snatch a station and getting their faces kicked in by -A- and U'K.

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-01-04 03:10:05 UTC
Andski wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Enlighten us, oh wise one.


"Truesec, what is it?"

I believe, at that time, havens and sanctums spawned in fully upgraded systems despite the truesec. It was later that CCP went, "Woops, yea trusec matters now." and nerfed it.

Liang Nuren wrote:
The bad political decision, IIRC, was trying to take a station from -A- while they were otherwise occupied fighting Goons. -A- took exception to the attempt and U'K helped push CVA out of Providence. IIRC -A- and U'K had some fun with it and roleplayed it up with CVA. CVA put up a good couple of fights in the beginning (and by good fight I mean massive bloodbath where U'K and -A- took no losses), but after only a few it became a tedious affair of knocking over a million stations.


You don't talk back to -A-?

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#31 - 2013-01-04 03:17:56 UTC
Wat?

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#32 - 2013-01-04 03:18:30 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
The bad political decision, IIRC, was trying to take a station from -A- while they were otherwise occupied fighting Goons. -A- took exception to the attempt and U'K helped push CVA out of Providence. IIRC -A- and U'K had some fun with it and roleplayed it up with CVA. CVA put up a good couple of fights in the beginning (and by good fight I mean massive bloodbath where U'K and -A- took no losses), but after only a few it became a tedious affair of knocking over a million stations.

You don't talk back to -A-?

We did with titans, drakes, tengus and a hell lot of friends in the same. Oh and rokhs.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-01-04 03:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
-A-, as part of a pact with BobbyAtlas and SirMolle to retake Delve, launched an invasion into Querious into Goonswarm's flank while IT Alliance attacked northern Delve. Meanwhile, Provibloc's ridiculously high population of neutrals and line members being sustained by -0.01 truesec belt rats and hedbergite ore was reaching a crisis so after much whining by his pets, the CVA executor at the time approved an invasion of Catch while -A- was busy brawling Goons. There was some other drama about how -A- secretly offered CVA heads additional space in the south for km-farming reasons but CVA always turned down more space due to roleplay 'never negotiate with reds' reasons and gay neutrality.

The invasion was going evenly against only a quarter of -A-'s attention until kartoon disbanded Goonswarm a week in and thanks to Dominion being a laggy POS all of CVA's cap fleet died almost immediately afterwards. Manny issued some roleplay ultimatum on the IGS that said CVA had to either face eviction or sign a NIP. Aralis said 'have fun grinding our 18931841 stations'' so -A- decided IT had enough help consolidating its space and instead flag down as many allied supercaps as possible for 3 months grinding provi stations. Molle was unpleased by this.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#34 - 2013-01-04 03:38:58 UTC
I preferred the 'freeeddooommm!!!' variant.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-01-04 03:41:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Karrl Tian
But...but...I thought everyone in Null was blue to each other?
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-01-04 04:02:34 UTC
Citing providence as some kind of successful proof that NRDS is a good thing is kinda dumb. CVA holds providence because it's worthless space. Much the same reason IRC has managed to hold onto it's space for so long. '

-Liang
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#37 - 2013-01-04 04:03:41 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Citing providence as some kind of successful proof that NRDS is a good thing is kinda dumb. CVA holds providence because it's worthless space. Much the same reason IRC has managed to hold onto it's space for so long. '

-Liang


I didn't say that, but I could have.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#38 - 2013-01-04 04:15:58 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Citing providence as some kind of successful proof that NRDS is a good thing is kinda dumb. CVA holds providence because it's worthless space. Much the same reason IRC has managed to hold onto it's space for so long. '

-Liang


I didn't say that, but I could have.

-Liang


You could say many things.

-Liang

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#39 - 2013-01-04 04:19:28 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Citing providence as some kind of successful proof that NRDS is a good thing is kinda dumb. CVA holds providence because it's worthless space. Much the same reason IRC has managed to hold onto it's space for so long. '

-Liang


I didn't say that, but I could have.

-Liang


You could say many things.

-Liang


I have already said many things.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2013-01-04 05:14:18 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
-A- took no losses)

Wait...
What?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)