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Suggestion: Purchase skill points with PLEX
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Sigras
Conglomo
#81 - 2013-01-03 21:23:23 UTC
Daisai wrote:
This is a good idea.
It allows for older players with a larger amount of isk getting alt to skill in the way they want and name it the way they want.
Something that isnt the case with the character bazaar.

Any downsides some people can come up with also have their downside on the character bazaar, either you spend the plex on isk to get a character on the character bazaar.
Or you spend the plex on getting free skillpoints to spend on skills you want.

Ok to prove you wrong . . .

Have you ever heard of inflation? like if CCP were to dump a bunch of minerals on the market for free, it would devalue all of the rest of the minerals because the price would drop right? or if CCP gave everyone a billion isk for christmas, each isk would be worth less because the price of everything would go up.

well this is the same concept; if CCP dumps a bunch of SP on the market via a plex>SP system, it devalues the SP everyone else has. The character bazaar doesnt do this because all the SP being sold on the bazaar was skilled up by "normal" means

This is also why PLEX dont contribute to inflation because youre not getting ISK from CCP, youre getting it from someone else who had to work for it.

The OP's suggestion is along the lines of "why do we have to deal with PLEX, why cant CCP just sell ISK?" this is a bad idea because of inflation just like selling SP is a bad idea because of inflation.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#82 - 2013-01-03 23:30:18 UTC
That sounds like a great idea...

If you want to completely destabilize the core foundation and value of the game-play sandbox.

yes
Iosue
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#83 - 2013-01-03 23:31:38 UTC
what, what lemme guess. the minerals you mine are free aren't they??
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#84 - 2013-01-03 23:36:27 UTC
Benjamin Dixon wrote:
Success in Eve depends on skill points, not player skills.
Unfortunately, the only way to get skill points is to spend real time training.

This is silly.

CCP should add the ability to purchase skill points using PLEX.

Benefits to CCP: Increased real world money sales of PLEX.
Benefits to Player: Faster way to get characters that are interesting.

Implementation of a feature like this would go a long way in leveling the playing field for new characters.

Implementing this feature will allow more players to "step up" to pvp.

Implementing this feature would allow carebears to advance to a productive level in a reasonable amount of time.

There seems to be little downside.



Actually no, skill points do not determine your success in EvE . They can aid in it, but how you apply the skill points you have is the most essential factor. Also it is not silly, it requires us to be patient, to learn to use the skill points we have before gaining new ones. The fact that I can gain "Levels" while at work or doing a project makes this game leaps and bounds better then WoW. It allows me to keep improving without spending all my time on the game. New players level the playing field by specializing, within a month they can be competitive. Application over abundance.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#85 - 2013-01-03 23:39:36 UTC
This is a dumb idea, so is the little TEST nubbin trying to support it.

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Jezza McWaffle
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#86 - 2013-03-31 19:58:16 UTC
This is a terrible idea on the pure basis that it evades time. With time being the only constant within EVE.

In WOW you can grind, which means time is irrelevant past how many hours a week your putting in. Whereas with EVE your suggesting to bypass training time. This bypasses the very constant within EVE. It is the sole reason why it will never happen.

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Darkblad
Doomheim
#87 - 2013-04-01 09:44:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Darkblad
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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2013-04-01 15:05:50 UTC
I will simply say this:

Malcanis' Law applies.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#89 - 2013-04-01 15:57:51 UTC
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
#90 - 2013-04-01 16:00:28 UTC
Benjamin Dixon wrote:
Success in Eve depends on skill points, not player skills.

Good april fool's joke, dude. I laughed.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2013-04-01 16:15:14 UTC
Tonto Auri wrote:
Benjamin Dixon wrote:
Success in Eve depends on skill points, not player skills.

Good april fool's joke, dude. I laughed.


Sadly, I think this one may be serious.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
#92 - 2013-04-01 16:26:19 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Sadly, I think this one may be serious.

Bad for his brain, then. It needs serious repairs.
Still, I laughed.

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0racle
Galactic Rangers
#93 - 2013-04-01 16:31:13 UTC
Reporting into a troll thread.
Banana1x
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2013-04-01 16:33:22 UTC
Here's a crazy thought, throw out skill points altogether. What purpose does it serve other than to create some sort of long winded progression or advantage for older characters? I say let the whole thing be market driven.
Shun Who
Doomheim
#95 - 2013-05-26 00:55:37 UTC
Ok I think I get the up and down sides of the real time value thing from this thread.

Now this is my problem, I don't like my caldari toon anymore. Can i please pay 5 plexes to get all my "real" time trained skill points reset so I can fly a super T3 proteus?

Its my skillpoints, I trained it, so why not?
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#96 - 2013-05-26 01:14:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
I read the first two pages, skimmed the third, skipped the fourth and am now replying on the fifth.

OP: Biomass your character, cancel your account, uninstall the game and then strongly consider getting yourself sterilized.

This is clearly not the game for you and you are clearly not the sort of person who we need contributing to the gene pool.

My suggestion about sterilization also applies to the TESTie who thinks unlimited pay-to-win power for everyone is a good thing.
Shun Who
Doomheim
#97 - 2013-05-26 01:22:12 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
I read the first two pages, skimmed the third, skipped the fourth and am now replying on the fifth.

OP: Biomass your character, cancel your account, uninstall the game and then strongly consider getting yourself sterilized.

This is clearly not the game for you and you are clearly not the sort of person who we need contributing to the gene pool.

My suggestion about sterilization also applies to the TESTie who thinks unlimited pay-to-win power for everyone is a good thing.


Its too bad your missing the point. Unlimited play to win is already happening.... should i point you to RMT websites or people that can afford to buy 100plexes and shop on the character bazaar.

The only person losing here is CCP. The real winners are the RMT lords