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CCP Soundwave talked about a bounty system durring AT10......lets use that.

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Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-03 02:02:01 UTC
I'm pretty sure during a discussion at the tournement, ccp Soundwave discussed an idea on bouty hunting (he also discussed the idea encompassing most aspects of the game). Person A would creat a contract for person B to perform X task. And they would have G time to complete it. I think this is the first step to fix the bounty system.
The second is, instead of encompassing the comunity in the hunt, limit it. Along with this you will need better tracking tools. Wether it be a short range tracking device that you launch and latch to a hull or warp signitures you can fallow. Of course these thing could all be apropriatly aquired with skills and isk. But ths idea of the community hunting the same target doesnt seem to be favored (at least from what I've been reading). See eves pvp laws are not the same laws as Concords laws. If Concord wants to hire real players to clean up space they need to hire Rangers not boubty hunters.

Just the idea of a noob.
Singular Snowflake
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-03 02:06:29 UTC
Tweek Etimua wrote:
I'm pretty sure during a discussion at the tournement, ccp Soundwave discussed an idea on bouty hunting (he also discussed the idea encompassing most aspects of the game). Person A would creat a contract for person B to perform X task. And they would have G time to complete it. I think this is the first step to fix the bounty system.
The second is, instead of encompassing the comunity in the hunt, limit it. Along with this you will need better tracking tools. Wether it be a short range tracking device that you launch and latch to a hull or warp signitures you can fallow. Of course these thing could all be apropriatly aquired with skills and isk. But ths idea of the community hunting the same target doesnt seem to be favored (at least from what I've been reading). See eves pvp laws are not the same laws as Concords laws. If Concord wants to hire real players to clean up space they need to hire Rangers not boubty hunters.

Just the idea of a noob.

Why limit the hunters?
Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-03 02:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tweek Etimua
Singular Snowflake wrote:
Tweek Etimua wrote:
I'm pretty sure during a discussion at the tournement, ccp Soundwave discussed an idea on bouty hunting (he also discussed the idea encompassing most aspects of the game). Person A would creat a contract for person B to perform X task. And they would have G time to complete it. I think this is the first step to fix the bounty system.
The second is, instead of encompassing the comunity in the hunt, limit it. Along with this you will need better tracking tools. Wether it be a short range tracking device that you launch and latch to a hull or warp signitures you can fallow. Of course these thing could all be apropriatly aquired with skills and isk. But ths idea of the community hunting the same target doesnt seem to be favored (at least from what I've been reading). See eves pvp laws are not the same laws as Concords laws. If Concord wants to hire real players to clean up space they need to hire Rangers not boubty hunters.

Just the idea of a noob.

Why limit the hunters?


Well mean is make it a more controled amount. Its seems most of the complaints are that a bounty/kill right can spread like wild fire. This can make the person being hunted hate life. On paper you want the bounty system to be a deterent.....but in eve you dont want it to be a succesfull deterent. You want people to break Concords laws, for the same reason you don't want them to for the chance to choose what they are. My idea is that if person A hires Person B to kill person C within a weeks time and person A is allowed to creat 7 contracts but 6 of them can be bought on the market by any one. This system just seems more comprehensive and better for both ends of the hunt.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-03 06:40:03 UTC
Singular Snowflake wrote:
Tweek Etimua wrote:
I'm pretty sure during a discussion at the tournement, ccp Soundwave discussed an idea on bouty hunting (he also discussed the idea encompassing most aspects of the game). Person A would creat a contract for person B to perform X task. And they would have G time to complete it. I think this is the first step to fix the bounty system.
The second is, instead of encompassing the comunity in the hunt, limit it. Along with this you will need better tracking tools. Wether it be a short range tracking device that you launch and latch to a hull or warp signitures you can fallow. Of course these thing could all be apropriatly aquired with skills and isk. But ths idea of the community hunting the same target doesnt seem to be favored (at least from what I've been reading). See eves pvp laws are not the same laws as Concords laws. If Concord wants to hire real players to clean up space they need to hire Rangers not boubty hunters.

Just the idea of a noob.

Why limit the hunters?


do both!

current bounty system + Person A create contract for Person B to podkill person X for a reward of 20m isk. Make sure to add a copy paste function, so that posting this particular contract 100 times will be faster :)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

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Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
#5 - 2013-01-03 07:12:05 UTC
In a world where death just means a trip to the cloning vat, people will never pay large amounts for one person to take out another. Thats why the current bonus pot is better. Nobody will waste the time tracking down one person who can just log off/sit in station/give themselves up in a no-implant clone to remove a bounty. Pretty much the old bounty system.

The only way for bounty hunting to actually feel cool and assassin-like is to have perma death which EVE will never have.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#6 - 2013-01-03 07:16:58 UTC
The Space Morons have spoken.

Also, the Kill-right system and the Bounty system are not the same thing. This is important. Please try and learn this.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

Singular Snowflake
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-01-03 11:37:27 UTC
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Singular Snowflake wrote:

Why limit the hunters?


On paper you want the bounty system to be a deterent.....but in eve you dont want it to be a succesfull deterent.


What?

Tweek Etimua wrote:

You want people to break Concords laws, for the same reason you don't want them to for the chance to choose what they are.


Bounties have nothing to do with concord laws and everything to do with people wanting to see other people dead.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#8 - 2013-01-03 14:45:56 UTC
Quote:
If Concord wants to hire real players to clean up space they need to hire Rangers not boubty hunters.


Our services are not for hire, that's what bounty hunter scum is for... and bounties don't have anything to do with Concord.

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PalkAn4ik
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-01-03 14:57:54 UTC
Singular Snowflake wrote:
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Singular Snowflake wrote:

Why limit the hunters?


On paper you want the bounty system to be a deterent.....but in eve you dont want it to be a succesfull deterent.


What?

Tweek Etimua wrote:

You want people to break Concords laws, for the same reason you don't want them to for the chance to choose what they are.


Bounties have nothing to do with concord laws and everything to do with people wanting to see other people dead.


I think what he was getting at is that people should be somewhat discouraged to break laws so you don't have utter chaos, but you still want some people breaking laws to have some chaos.

Chaos means fun.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#10 - 2013-01-03 15:45:37 UTC
I honestly don't see the problem with the current bounty system.

Ris Dnalor wrote:

do both!

current bounty system + Person A create contract for Person B to podkill person X for a reward of 20m isk. Make sure to add a copy paste function, so that posting this particular contract 100 times will be faster :)


Yuh, issuing a kill contract seems like a reasonable addition for a new career path of an assassin as a supplement to the generic bounty hunter.
Juwi Kotch
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-01-03 15:56:07 UTC
I just came back to EVE after a 12 months absence a couple weeks ago. One of the triggers was the implementation of an improved bounty system with Retribution. Unfortunately, my biggest concern when discussing the options on this boards years ago became true: Bounties are now a tool to grief pilots without any discrimination.

Bounties should only be able to be set on a pilot, when you have a valid reason to be aggravated. Like, he killed you, or he destroyed your ship. Only those should be allowed to give a bounty to a certain pilot, who have a killright against this pilot. Only those corporations should give bounties to other corporations, who have been wardecked by this other corporation. Easy as that.

And only those pilots should be allowed to collect a bounty, who got the right to do so via a bounty contract from the bounty giver. But then in full amount.

With this, bounty hunting could turn into a profession, instead of the grief fest the bounty system provides right now and unsignificant motivation to work for bounties.

"Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#12 - 2013-01-03 16:01:54 UTC
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Person A would creat a contract for person B to perform X task. And they would have G time to complete it. I think this is the first step to fix the bounty system.



Already possible.

1) Go here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=252
2) Make a thread.
3) Put the ISK in escrow with a good third party.
4) Get someone to accept the contract.
5) ????
6) Profit.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-01-03 16:05:18 UTC
WTB: Concord Bounty Enforcement License

Tactical destroyers... I'll take a dozen Gallente, please.