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Ethical Issues W/ Regards to Bot Banning

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2013-01-03 06:49:32 UTC
OP hasnt heard that the drones are already going rogue.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#42 - 2013-01-03 06:50:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Kitty Bear wrote:

Ai is nothing
Self Aware is the real scary nightmare that we face oneday


I don't think we have anything to worry about there, some humans still have problems with self aware and just do as they're told like good little programs.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-01-03 07:04:11 UTC
Banning bots is now an ethical issue?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#44 - 2013-01-03 07:35:39 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:

Ai is nothing
Self Aware is the real scary nightmare that we face oneday

I don't think we have anything to worry about there, some humans still have problems with self aware and just do as they're told like good little programs.

No, the goons and test are ALREADY bots. We have evolved to even take on forums pvp.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-01-03 07:48:08 UTC
Two trollthreads in short time.
Stop turning into an alcoholic.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#46 - 2013-01-03 07:55:09 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:

Ai is nothing
Self Aware is the real scary nightmare that we face oneday

I don't think we have anything to worry about there, some humans still have problems with self aware and just do as they're told like good little programs.

No, the goons and test are ALREADY bots. We have evolved to even take on forums pvp.


The forums IS the end game afterall P

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-01-03 08:09:48 UTC
Another goon alt thread... *sigh*
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-01-03 08:15:00 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Anyone who has played EVE long enough knows that there is a substantial and persistent Bot presence (in mining, station trading, PvE, etc.). Anyone who keeps up with technological advancements and science news knows that AIs are getting more and more advanced; we are fast approaching a point in EVE where the bots will be functionally indistinguishable from humans; they will be able to pass what I have dubbed the "Jack Gates Test", wherein an EVE pubbie gets scammed out of billions of ISK and multiple cap ships by an advanced Bot, without ever realizing it was not a human being. Rumors abound that the Goonswarm Federation is also experimenting with bots capable of participating in large-scale PvP through communication with a human fleet leader and a pre-programmed set of fleet commands (bump FC, orbit at 69km, mimic genitals on the Avatar, etc.).

With all this comes the very real possibility that these new Bots will develop a human-like Ego and sense of personalized will, which raises all sorts of ethical issues that I'm not sure the MMO community is prepared to deal with, though EVE players are certainly more enlightened than the average WoW caveman. Will CCP have to re-evaluate their stance on Bots if (dare I say, When?) they become independent paying customers that split off from their human masters and form their own corporations?


a poorly writing troll program made this post, i'll give it 4/10

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Steven Seaga1
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-01-03 08:24:46 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Anyone who has played EVE long enough knows that there is a substantial and persistent Bot presence (in mining, station trading, PvE, etc.). Anyone who keeps up with technological advancements and science news knows that AIs are getting more and more advanced; we are fast approaching a point in EVE where the bots will be functionally indistinguishable from humans; they will be able to pass what I have dubbed the "Jack Gates Test", wherein an EVE pubbie gets scammed out of billions of ISK and multiple cap ships by an advanced Bot, without ever realizing it was not a human being. Rumors abound that the Goonswarm Federation is also experimenting with bots capable of participating in large-scale PvP through communication with a human fleet leader and a pre-programmed set of fleet commands (bump FC, orbit at 69km, mimic genitals on the Avatar, etc.).

With all this comes the very real possibility that these new Bots will develop a human-like Ego and sense of personalized will, which raises all sorts of ethical issues that I'm not sure the MMO community is prepared to deal with, though EVE players are certainly more enlightened than the average WoW caveman. Will CCP have to re-evaluate their stance on Bots if (dare I say, When?) they become independent paying customers that split off from their human masters and form their own corporations?



Someone is watching TOO much Fringe mmmkay.....
Thomas Gore
Blackfyre Enterprise
#50 - 2013-01-03 08:37:54 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
****, I'd better hide my stash before you smoke all of it.


This.
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Amarr Empire
#51 - 2013-01-03 09:05:23 UTC
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