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Institute a progressive Wealth Tax

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Frying Doom
#41 - 2013-01-02 23:28:36 UTC
Bloody Americans Lol

But does that mean we can become use our corporations to find loop hole in the tax laws so we in fact don't pay anything?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Wescro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-01-02 23:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Wescro
Progressive taxation? What's next, Great Purges of all who oppose the glorious People's Republic of Jita?

On a more serious note, I am against this idea.

Taxes in real life fund the state, which in turn spends some it to give people things they need things but can not earn themselves.

Taxes in Eve are primarily an ISK sink, nothing more. They don't fund anything. If CCP wants to give noobs goodies, it can manifest them from nothing. No reason to punish the hardworking space jews. (Please, I use this term with all due respect for fine members of the Judaic religion).

http://crossingzebras.com/2013/02/17/csm8ripardteg/
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#43 - 2013-01-02 23:50:19 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
lol I have pictured in my head CCP Robin Hood ala "Time Bandits" handing out free stuffz to the poor & wretched noobs then punching the pilot in the face
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#44 - 2013-01-02 23:54:45 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
It is well known that EVE has a *Massive* wealth-inequality problem, and a GINI coefficient below that of only the U.S. and Brunei. I propose CCP remedy this by periodically levying a tax on both ISK holdings and the estimated (by average market values) worth of player asset values; these funds could then be spent on free ships for newbies and such, to level out the playing field and give people a fighting chance against the alliance that currently has a stranglehold on Fun in this game.


Lol

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
sitar seaton
State War Academy
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-01-03 00:21:50 UTC
Tippia wrote:

Property tax.


property tax only taxes property not wealth. You can have billions in cash, but if you don't own a house or land you pay no property tax, and if you keep the cash out of investments you will have no income and thus pay no tax at all.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2013-01-03 00:27:13 UTC
I support this in so far as the ISK vanishes into Concord's chained god weapons fund.
And that it is done as a spectrum tax not as a teir. (Check northern Europe codes for reference)
This way you will always make money, and that the higher taxes are offset by the fact you still have a vast amount more.
Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-01-03 00:27:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Karrl Tian
Only if it goes to highsec players in NPC corps.

HVAC Repairman wrote:
i play this game because its a libertarian paradise

ron paul 2016


Meh. If EVE really were pure capitalism there would be no bounties, no mission payouts, no isk period. Currency would be solely based on whatever the players started using (I'm thinking Drakes) as money.
FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-01-03 00:30:08 UTC
No. Giving charity because you want to makes you a good person. Forcing people to share their wealth and giving it to people who have none is exactly why our country is so in debt. It promotes people to not work, and that's what'll happen in eve.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#49 - 2013-01-03 00:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
sitar seaton wrote:
property tax only taxes property
…which is a form of wealth, and property tax is a form of wealth tax.

Wealth comes in many many forms, and just because a given tax doesn't touch one particular form doesn't disqualify it from being a wealth tax if it does indeed nibble away at (or is based on the value of) another. Sure, if it's a tax on net wealth, then cash should be included (along with everything else), but it doesn't have to be net wealth to be a wealth tax.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#50 - 2013-01-03 01:02:27 UTC
Seems fitting that OPs last name is Hurt...could his middle initial be B?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Frying Doom
#51 - 2013-01-03 01:16:48 UTC
FeralShadow wrote:
No. Giving charity because you want to makes you a good person. Forcing people to share their wealth and giving it to people who have none is exactly why our country is so in debt. It promotes people to not work, and that's what'll happen in eve.

Spare some change, man?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Valentine Arkanian
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-01-03 01:23:05 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
It is well known that EVE has a *Massive* wealth-inequality problem, and a GINI coefficient below that of only the U.S. and Brunei. I propose CCP remedy this by periodically levying a tax on both ISK holdings and the estimated (by average market values) worth of player asset values; these funds could then be spent on free ships for newbies and such, to level out the playing field and give people a fighting chance against the alliance that currently has a stranglehold on Fun in this game.

Newbies already get free ships. I've got eight in my hanger. Yeah, they're noob ships, but I don't need more ships that I can't fly yet.

EVE Gating | Life in New Eden
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#53 - 2013-01-03 01:24:45 UTC
I say put tollbooths at jump gates.
Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-01-03 01:31:34 UTC
Obama wont be getting any of my isk.

hello
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#55 - 2013-01-03 01:31:37 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Great idea in real life!

If we implement this in EVE, though, I want my very own IRL Rifter.


I'd buy that for a dollar... Lol

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#56 - 2013-01-03 01:54:19 UTC
Actually such a thing as a progressive tax would serve to drive people out of high sec.


But.....


I would hope that if such a tax was instituted, then highsec becomes 100 percent "safe".


My reasoning being, I see people in RL totally tolerate 10K a year in property taxes, and multiple other taxes on income and services, "just to live in a nice neighborhood".

Such people go an entire life without ever picking up a gun. But when they move out to "the country" and their little fru fru dog gets picked off by coyotes (usually within hours), or they got neighbor kids that'll steal their ATV out of the outbuilding and wreck it for lulz, they suddenly realize they are in lowsec. They sooner get a gun than go back to paying 90 percent of their income.

So it would not make sense to have a high progressive tax (in high sec) yet everybody can still have turrets and need to tank.

So, a complete de-balling of high sec, for a price, will serve to drive out everybody but the noobs.

Yes, even the high-sec gankbears would have to pack it up.

Sounds dumb? Because it is. And yes I be trolling.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#57 - 2013-01-03 02:09:36 UTC
It's sad to see the Paulites and the Randians come out of the woodwork in such force, but I guess that's what you get for going on the internet. *Sigh*

smdh
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-01-03 02:33:33 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Free ships for noobs.
To spoil them even further.

Glad you're just trolling.



They...already...get....free...ships...

....yeeeah...
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-01-03 02:34:52 UTC
Tippia wrote:
sitar seaton wrote:
property tax only taxes property
…which is a form of wealth, and property tax is a form of wealth tax.

Wealth comes in many many forms, and just because a given tax doesn't touch one particular form doesn't disqualify it from being a wealth tax if it does indeed nibble away at (or is based on the value of) another. Sure, if it's a tax on net wealth, then cash should be included (along with everything else), but it doesn't have to be net wealth to be a wealth tax.



BRAIN ASPLODE FROMZ DAH LOGIC-STUFFS GAAAAAAH!!!
stoicfaux
#60 - 2013-01-03 04:11:20 UTC
I think the OP should know that the only people who went through the dangerous Eve Gate wormhole on a one way trip to colonize harsh and uncaring worlds from the ground up aren't the type to allow the government to redistribute all their hard-earned stuff to newbies/slackers.

On a side note, does anyone really take the "Gallente are French descendants" lore seriously? CCP might as well have said that the Gallente are descendants of Greece.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.