EVE General Discussion

I'm just wondering how everyone made the jump from a relative peaceful existence to a more voilent one that we see in low/nullsec?

What were you focusing on? How long did you focus on this before you decided to make the jump to PvP? How old was your character and did you feel like you were ready to make the jump?

I'm asking this because I'm trying to get into PvP but as a pretty new player I don't stand much of a chance with my low SP. I understand I need to pick my fights but I feel like I need to round myself out before I go and start getting blown up over and over.

You seem to believe that pvp players can't be carebears ... i think of carebears as those that will only do things that they are sure they'll win at ... that is a good portion of the eve player base.

My view of carebears are those that actively seek to avoid any type of confrontation, mainly seeking to immerse themselves in non-agressive tasks excluding NPC killing. In a sense yes, I understand what you're saying and I do agree with it.

That's actually a good point. I'm not specifically looking for people that made the transition and stuck with it, i'm more interested in the actual point in time when a person decided to engage in agressive PvP.

It took me a good half a year playing before I started intentionally getting into fights. It was around that time that I realized that other players are the content in this game, and that content was pretty much limitless and far more fun/engaging/stressful than anything "PvE" in this game. Fighting alongside friends is fun, so is solo roaming, and the occasional balls-to-the-wall kamikaze kill whatever's on the other side of this gate attack gets the blood pumping.

Lately I've been using my hauler alt to roam high-sec belts, stealing stuff to gain a flag; fairly low (IIIs and a few IVs) skills for combat but still very viable and fun. You get a fight here and there, win some, lose some, it's all good.

I don't get to play much due to work, started the game in December of 2011. Mostly i worked up to a mission boat so i could earn some isk and learn the game.

I started FW during the summer months (july, i think) and began to realize how crazy and committed some of the people were who were doing the killing. Learning builds and purposes in fleets was fun. As i said i only have time here and there to play lots, i havent been able to completely immerse, as i would like too.

Mostly i guess, you just need enough money to build some ships, go cheap at first. and you are ready. Like any game, the pvp will turn often to the more SP'ed player, but as you get the hang and skilll up you will begin to see that frigate and destroyer pvp in Low Sec can be lots of fun, and there are complexes that only allow certain ship types so that your frigate won't just get eaten all the time...

What drew me in was the more exotic gameplay of pvp in space. What frustrated me was the time i needed to allot to it (i could easily log on and run a mission, salvage it and earn isk in an hour after work, but roaming low sec with others incorporates wait times on all to be ready, moving through roams takes time, looking for plexes that aren't always in the same places, etc etc... low sec demands more time to succeed).

It is amazingly fun, however, to roam around and hunt players. In fact its fun just plexing even if you have no intention of fighting, just the paranoia makes it interesting.

Make DScan your friend and learn to use it, never fly what you can't afford to lose, and keep a few ships (cheap-0 frigate fits, like incursis or Merlin) fitted in your home area so that you can jump back into the action ASAP. Oh yeah, and jump clones are nice, so you lose your implants on your main bod.

Two weeks old I wen't to lowsec in my arbitrator. It took 10min to kill a BS belt rat. But the bounty was almost a million so I was excited. I lost a few ships in lowsec but I also learned ma lot - some directly from the friendly pirates that ganked me (in private convos). I even got ships gifted to me.

A couple of weeks later I decided I wanted to go to Stain and packed my Harbinger with stuff (you never know what the market looks like down there) and went on my 50 jump trip through nullsec. Didn't make it and was podded back to empire. Tried again three times - plenty of bubbles and dramiels on the way. The fourth time I made it all the way. Most exciting trip I have ever made - i even managed to escape a couple of camps. I lost my Harbinger to an Arazu with fiends a day or two later. But it was an exciting journey well worth the effort. I got to see bubbles :)

I'd say just go but make sure you have already lost your ship and a few spares mentally before you go. You won't regret it.

I got fed up of dying. I knew that I didn't know how to fight or fit ships. So I figured I'd join a nullsec alliance. Throughout the past year I've made friends, learned a lot of tricks and improved my killboard quite a bit. I'm by no means an "elite PvPer" now, roughly a year later. But I'm often at the top of the killboard for my corp/alliance every month. I still lose ships, everyone does. I still make mistakes. But now I have more of an idea what I'm doing, and an inkling of what I did wrong.

But most important of all, I have a great deal of fun.

However the term care-bear is very appropriate. At one point you have to stop "caring" about your ships and your shinies. If you are worried about your stuff, you'll be so busy fighting your adrenaline rush that you won't be paying attention to what you are doing. Become an emotionless, cold hearted bastard, and you'll win many fights. After all if you die you die, it's only another ship, another pod, another set of implants. Everything can be replaced except your skill. And combat doesn't take away your skill (unless you fly T3's or forget to update your clone). So you really have nothing to lose.

Kind of a loaded question because they aren't exclusive terms.

I easily take risks, and have lost billions because of it, but i've never really had any motivation to PvP, which would qualify me as a carebear under some peoples definitions.

The transition to 0.0 as a 'carebear' isn't that problematic. After they get there they're even safer from unwanted PvP than they would be in hisec. Just keep an eye on local and scurry away when a stranger appears.

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