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CCP kicked a plenty of BOTS last night. Is it true?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#21 - 2013-01-02 15:06:41 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Show me where I used the words multiboxing Shocked

You didn't, he did, you said they were obviously botters and he said they could be multiboxing.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Sounds to me like you know about this group. You were...involved ?

You are accusing him of something with no proof other then knowing about mechanics that could possibly be used. Lets not let a discussion thread degrade into finger pointing and blame without evidence.
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You are most welcome.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-01-02 15:06:47 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Show me where I used the words multiboxing Shocked

You didn't, he did, you said they were obviously botters and he said they could be multiboxing.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

I would find that even more disgusting, tbh. Sactioned economy-killing behaviour.

I agree that that kind of Multiboxing should not be allowed but it is the nature of duel use vs simultaneous use alternate characters.

There is a difference between owning accounts to do separate things such as X character for PvP and X character for PvE and then there is owning seperate accounts to do things simultainously, such as mining, missioning, hauling, PvP and so on.

Where do you draw the line? Falcon Alts, Logi Alts, PvP / PvE, DPS Alts, Mining Alts, AFK Hauler Alts, PI Alts? Which gets the nerfs and which ones get to stay, ones where money making is involved, ones that give you an advantage, ones that work AFK.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Sounds to me like you know about this group. You were...involved ?

You are accusing him of something with no proof other then knowing about mechanics that could possibly be used. Lets not let a discussion thread degrade into finger pointing and blame without evidence.



+1 Alara

But then you're posting on GD, full of neurotic people seeing bots everywhere, the moment you mine you're a bot etc etc.
However OP did what he should do as player, petition and let those in charge with much better tools than monkey brains full of alcohol and drugs assuming everything on everyone.

Moral of this thread? -this guy with a single petition has probably banned far more bots in a single click than any idiots actions around the place for years now feeding their neurotic vision about bots with same boring arguments.

Well done OP.

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Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#23 - 2013-01-02 15:07:17 UTC
Dave stark wrote:

in that case, i want concord ships to randomly attack mission runners unless they stop murdering innocent red crosses, randomly.

Wait, EvE is a cunning plan to subliminally train future warriors into considering a red cross a sign of aggression and attack it on site?

Pure evil genius!

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-01-02 15:10:11 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
the moment you mine you're a bot

I suspected as much, thanks for confirming.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#25 - 2013-01-02 15:11:47 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
the moment you mine you're a bot

I suspected as much, thanks for confirming.



Here they are finally.

Time to leave Thread as it's all downhill from here.

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Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#26 - 2013-01-02 15:11:56 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:

Because bots use optical character recognition, and can just enter the code.


Citation needed.

Even so many ways to combat such as coloured strike throughs etc

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-01-02 15:13:47 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
the moment you mine you're a bot

I suspected as much, thanks for confirming.


Reading comprehension helps but whatever. Lol

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Lol

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#28 - 2013-01-02 15:16:24 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:

Because bots use optical character recognition, and can just enter the code.


Citation needed.

Even so many ways to combat such as coloured strike throughs etc

For those you have the bot send a screen shot to a service in a third world country where its deciphered for a tiny fee. Google it, you'll find it.

All those things will do is annoy regular players.

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Abu Tarynnia
Kings-Guard
#29 - 2013-01-02 15:17:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Abu Tarynnia
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
the moment you mine you're a bot

I suspected as much, thanks for confirming.



Here they are finally.

Time to leave Thread as it's all downhill from here.


He he .. but one question remains ? Can you swim ? Because without bots and multiboxing (that I find still too stressful and cheaty) how high can prices for minerals and all other stuff depending on that go ? Can you swim in that ocean all those non-miners will fill with their whimpy tears ? Can you sail on that wailing cries of agony the pvplers will cry as they realize, that the ship just lost cannot be replaced because the prices are too high ?
Just go on .. strip missions of ISK, strip the miners of the ability to mine and destory EVE as you know and love it now. I will dance on the grave and cheers havens with a pint for the new beginning afterwards. Twisted

YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!!

Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#30 - 2013-01-02 15:26:47 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
[quote=Yim Sei]
For those you have the bot send a screen shot to a service in a third world country where its deciphered for a tiny fee. Google it, you'll find it.

All those things will do is annoy regular players.



People this would annoy are not 'regular' players.

They are AFKers or Bots

Which are you? hmmmmmmmmmm?

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.

CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#31 - 2013-01-02 15:35:32 UTC
I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#32 - 2013-01-02 15:38:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Yim Sei wrote:
People this would annoy are not 'regular' players.

They are AFKers or Bots
No. Neither AFKers nor bots can be annoyed by it, since they'll automate the process of pretty much insta-skipping it. Actual players, on the other hand, will always be annoyed with stuff that randomly interrupts what they're doing for no reason.

The only ones in favour of captcha in games are those who won't be affected by them… i.e. botters. See how that works?
Stone Roses
SM Industries
#33 - 2013-01-02 15:44:48 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread.


You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-01-02 15:45:41 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
find both botting and multiboxing abhorent.

They achieve the same destructive ends.

Also, an accusation is not a determination.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you multi-box too. Practice what you preach, tia~

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2013-01-02 15:45:57 UTC
Stone Roses wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread.

You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad.

I didn't see any mentions of Elite or Ultima Onine, so no, that's probably not what he meant.
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#36 - 2013-01-02 15:46:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:
People this would annoy are not 'regular' players.

They are AFKers or Bots
No. Neither AFKers nor bots can be annoyed by it, since they'll automate the process of pretty much insta-skipping it. Actual players, on the other hand, will always be annoyed with stuff that randomly interrupts what they're doing for no reason.

The only ones in favour of captcha in games are those who won't be affected by them… i.e. botters. See how that works?


Nope - You are very very very wrong.

Don't know why you even posted this drivel to defend them.

If someone is actively there at the keyboard they can use the 'Asteroid events'.

If they are afk or bots - they can not - simple.

CCP have already gone a long way to removing AFK missioniong.

Removing AFK mining would also remove bots.

The only reason anyone would want no interruption is to not be there.

The only reason anyone would defend bots in game is because it benefits them.

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.

Mag's
Azn Empire
#37 - 2013-01-02 15:54:04 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
Nope - You are very very very wrong.
You'll find you're wrong, actually. But don't let facts, get in the way of some good old mud slinging.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#38 - 2013-01-02 15:55:44 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
If someone is actively there at the keyboard they can use the 'Asteroid events'.

If they are afk or bots - they can not - simple.
What you're describing is just prettied-up captchas. They are already easily automated, so yes, they most certainly can. Just because you don't know this doesn't mean it's drivel or hasn't been going on for years now.

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CCP have already gone a long way to removing AFK missioniong.
Not really, no. For actual players staying away, it just required a slight adjustment in tactics; with bots, it was just a matter of readjusting the code.

Quote:
Removing AFK mining would also remove bots.
Nope. There's actually a decent case to be made that removing AFK mining would increase the number of bots.

Quote:
The only reason anyone would want no interruption is to not be there.
Ok, so we can conclude that you are a bot, then, with this stunning insight into human psychology. No. People don't like interruptions. What you're suggesting is to interrupt people. Botters will automate that and not care one whit; everyone else will dislike it… pretty much exactly like we've seen with all other captchas.
Abu Tarynnia
Kings-Guard
#39 - 2013-01-02 16:01:10 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:
People this would annoy are not 'regular' players.

They are AFKers or Bots
No. Neither AFKers nor bots can be annoyed by it, since they'll automate the process of pretty much insta-skipping it. Actual players, on the other hand, will always be annoyed with stuff that randomly interrupts what they're doing for no reason.

The only ones in favour of captcha in games are those who won't be affected by them… i.e. botters. See how that works?


Nope - You are very very very wrong.

Don't know why you even posted this drivel to defend them.

If someone is actively there at the keyboard they can use the 'Asteroid events'.

If they are afk or bots - they can not - simple.

CCP have already gone a long way to removing AFK missioniong.

Removing AFK mining would also remove bots.

The only reason anyone would want no interruption is to not be there.

The only reason anyone would defend bots in game is because it benefits them.


The problem with bots in ANY MMO is that they adept faster then you can program anything against them. And by the way .. what do you thing this would change ? Some 'players' stop playing because cannot bot anymore? If so .. CCP would loose money because even a bot needs PLEX or a credit card .. so not allowing bots within certain borders is also bad.
Mining is not that intressting that a halfway sane player would pay for that .. and just to be ganged when hes no afking. I do it (afking) when I have other things to do and cannot have 100% concentration on the game. So what ? Do you really think mining .. one of the most annoying professions in most MMOs is something I should pay for ?
If they nerf mining the way you purpose .. EVE will be dead within a month.

YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!!

Dave stark
#40 - 2013-01-02 16:04:14 UTC
Stone Roses wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread.


You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad.


based on the myriad of irrefutable sources you provided. it's a complete scandal that your post was deleted.
you should cancel your account(s) as a sign of your displeasure at this hideous conspiracy.