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I have returned from a long sleep and what do I find!
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Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#1 - 2012-12-31 07:39:27 UTC
That learning is no longer a thing. Now, I am actually very, very glad about this as I always thought that the learning skills were a load of bollocks. So,on my return I find that I am up 4.5 million sp in loose sp. I have spent 3 million of this on a few frivolous things (cloak V took the bulk of that) but I thought that I would allow the people of this fine sub forum to earmark the remaining 1.5 million. Please note that I already have essentially all the skills I require to play the game the way I want to.
So, where shall I go with these points?
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#2 - 2012-12-31 09:38:53 UTC
Use them for skills that you don't want to waste an attribute remap for. For example skills in the social, leadership, trade categories.

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Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#3 - 2012-12-31 09:48:52 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
Use them for skills that you don't want to waste an attribute remap for. For example skills in the social, leadership, trade categories.


wait, you can remap your attributes too now? whoa. I think you may be right, I may just use them to get a few social and trade skills though. The one thing that was always annoying me was when I needed to go to a station to sell something in that station :(
Skurga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-12-31 10:14:57 UTC
Make sure you trained all racial Frigs to 4 und all racial Cruisers to 3, destroyers to 5 and battlecruisers to 5, to be prepared for the skillchanges, which happen in (early?/mid?) 2013.

or

Use them for skills which skilling time is long, are necessary for the long run and aren't fun to wait for: Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 for example.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#5 - 2012-12-31 11:35:51 UTC
Skurga wrote:
Make sure you trained all racial Frigs to 4 und all racial Cruisers to 3, destroyers to 5 and battlecruisers to 5, to be prepared for the skillchanges, which happen in (early?/mid?) 2013.

or

Use them for skills which skilling time is long, are necessary for the long run and aren't fun to wait for: Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 for example.


the only frigate skill I don't have at level V is electronic attack ships which is level II. I'm currently upping cruisers with ol' regular skill points. And I need to remember to get BC from III to V too it looks. Gunnery is all squared away, I have level 5 in all the non weapon gunnery skills, level 5 in all small turret skills and level 4 or 5 in all advanced turret skills. When I came to this game many a year ago I wanted to fly frigates and by golly I can fly them frigates :P
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2012-12-31 15:18:52 UTC
Save them to bump your subsystem skills after you lose a T3. Waiting out three days until you can use a ship to maximum effectiveness after each loss isn't really a long time but it is really ******* annoying.
Lysa Riay
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-12-31 17:05:19 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Save them to bump your subsystem skills after you lose a T3. Waiting out three days until you can use a ship to maximum effectiveness after each loss isn't really a long time but it is really ******* annoying.



Yep there are times that EvE becomes pay to wait :D

BC V & racial crusier IIIs would be my choice atm. Then Destroyers V if there's anything left!

Could Klang take the (now rotting) pizzas & the launcher out as they leave the building plz.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#8 - 2012-12-31 17:37:39 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Save them to bump your subsystem skills after you lose a T3. Waiting out three days until you can use a ship to maximum effectiveness after each loss isn't really a long time but it is really ******* annoying.


I always found 3 days to be an extremely short amount of time, especially when those points can go to something that's useful to you right now, but whatever. I guess if you have all your relevant skills done, and all you have left is sub-cap crosstraining, then there's no downside to holding onto those points for later.
Mister Tuggles
Heretic Army
Sedition.
#9 - 2012-12-31 22:59:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Mister Tuggles
Super spikinator wrote:
That learning is no longer a thing. Now, I am actually very, very glad about this as I always thought that the learning skills were a load of bollocks. So,on my return I find that I am up 4.5 million sp in loose sp. I have spent 3 million of this on a few frivolous things (cloak V took the bulk of that) but I thought that I would allow the people of this fine sub forum to earmark the remaining 1.5 million. Please note that I already have essentially all the skills I require to play the game the way I want to.
So, where shall I go with these points?



If you haven't done so already you should get all racial frigs to 4, all racial cruisers to 3, Battlecruisers to 5, and Destroyers to 5. This will save you from having to train every single racial BC and Destroyer when CCP makes the change soon.


Also, why on Earth would you train cloak 5? lol
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#10 - 2012-12-31 23:42:01 UTC
Mister Tuggles wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
That learning is no longer a thing. Now, I am actually very, very glad about this as I always thought that the learning skills were a load of bollocks. So,on my return I find that I am up 4.5 million sp in loose sp. I have spent 3 million of this on a few frivolous things (cloak V took the bulk of that) but I thought that I would allow the people of this fine sub forum to earmark the remaining 1.5 million. Please note that I already have essentially all the skills I require to play the game the way I want to.
So, where shall I go with these points?



If you haven't done so already you should get all racial frigs to 4, all racial cruisers to 3, Battlecruisers to 5, and Destroyers to 5. This will save you from having to train every single racial BC and Destroyer when CCP makes the change soon.


Also, why on Earth would you train cloak 5? lol


Actually I have no idea why. I think I saw those 4.5 million sp and was like a kid in a candy shop and they're allowed to pick anything. So I looked at cloak IV and thought, that should read V.
Mister Tuggles
Heretic Army
Sedition.
#11 - 2013-01-01 01:14:36 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
Mister Tuggles wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
That learning is no longer a thing. Now, I am actually very, very glad about this as I always thought that the learning skills were a load of bollocks. So,on my return I find that I am up 4.5 million sp in loose sp. I have spent 3 million of this on a few frivolous things (cloak V took the bulk of that) but I thought that I would allow the people of this fine sub forum to earmark the remaining 1.5 million. Please note that I already have essentially all the skills I require to play the game the way I want to.
So, where shall I go with these points?



If you haven't done so already you should get all racial frigs to 4, all racial cruisers to 3, Battlecruisers to 5, and Destroyers to 5. This will save you from having to train every single racial BC and Destroyer when CCP makes the change soon.


Also, why on Earth would you train cloak 5? lol


Actually I have no idea why. I think I saw those 4.5 million sp and was like a kid in a candy shop and they're allowed to pick anything. So I looked at cloak IV and thought, that should read V.



Lol don't worry about it. It happened to me as well when I saw a load of free SP.

You really should train the BC and destoyer + the racial frig 4, racial cruiser 3 though. Will save you a huge amount of time once CCP splits BC and Destroyers into the 4 racial counterparts.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#12 - 2013-01-01 01:18:49 UTC
Mister Tuggles wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
Mister Tuggles wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
That learning is no longer a thing. Now, I am actually very, very glad about this as I always thought that the learning skills were a load of bollocks. So,on my return I find that I am up 4.5 million sp in loose sp. I have spent 3 million of this on a few frivolous things (cloak V took the bulk of that) but I thought that I would allow the people of this fine sub forum to earmark the remaining 1.5 million. Please note that I already have essentially all the skills I require to play the game the way I want to.
So, where shall I go with these points?



If you haven't done so already you should get all racial frigs to 4, all racial cruisers to 3, Battlecruisers to 5, and Destroyers to 5. This will save you from having to train every single racial BC and Destroyer when CCP makes the change soon.


Also, why on Earth would you train cloak 5? lol


Actually I have no idea why. I think I saw those 4.5 million sp and was like a kid in a candy shop and they're allowed to pick anything. So I looked at cloak IV and thought, that should read V.



Lol don't worry about it. It happened to me as well when I saw a load of free SP.

You really should train the BC and destoyer + the racial frig 4, racial cruiser 3 though. Will save you a huge amount of time once CCP splits BC and Destroyers into the 4 racial counterparts.


I'm currently working through cruisers in normal sp. I have all racial frig V, destroyer V so I don't need to worry about that, I have Cald and Am cruisers at 5 but only have 3 on Gall and Win and only 3 BC :(

The changes haven't made it to test yet so I am thinking they may be a marchish release (They only did the cruiser refit so they will want to observe that before changing BC). So on the change over at the moment I will get every racial BC III correct? since I have V,V,III,III and only III BC?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#13 - 2013-01-01 04:35:29 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
So on the change over at the moment I will get every racial BC III correct? since I have V,V,III,III and only III BC?


That's what we've been allowed to believe, even if we haven't been told that outright. Definitely plenty of bang for the buck taking BC to 5, though if you train per/will at a decent rate already I wouldn't spend the bonus points on that.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#14 - 2013-01-02 11:57:06 UTC
Over 6 million SP "for free" if you have BC and Destroyer to V and all the Frig and Cruiser prerequisites trained up to the appropriate level...

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Alayna Le'line
#15 - 2013-01-02 14:06:42 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
So on the change over at the moment I will get every racial BC III correct? since I have V,V,III,III and only III BC?


That's what we've been allowed to believe, even if we haven't been told that outright.


Yes we have.

Also this.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#16 - 2013-01-02 16:46:13 UTC
Alayna Le'line wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
So on the change over at the moment I will get every racial BC III correct? since I have V,V,III,III and only III BC?


That's what we've been allowed to believe, even if we haven't been told that outright.


Yes we have.

Also this.


Mmmm so it is soon(tm). At least it isn't COSMOS soon since BC are the next in line for Teiricide
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#17 - 2013-01-02 20:01:35 UTC
Im still not sure WHY are people all of a sudden training cruiser 3's and frig 4's, Im seriously totally overshooting the whole point I thinks.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#18 - 2013-01-03 02:08:01 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Im still not sure WHY are people all of a sudden training cruiser 3's and frig 4's, Im seriously totally overshooting the whole point I thinks.


Currently if you want to fly any destroyer or battlecruisers you only have to train up the skill destroyers or battlecruisers and have the racial frigate/cruiser skill to III to fly it (to fly a catalyst you need Gallente Frigate III and Destroyers I). CCP is changing the Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills to racial skills which means to get the most out of all the BCs and Destroyers you will have to train up a racial skill (New Catalyst will be Gallente Frigate III and Gallente Destroyers I).

However, when CCP makes the change they will split the Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill and give you even levels in all of them based on your old skill level....as long as you have the relevant precursor. So for me for example who has all Racial Frigates V and Destroyers V that means I will gain Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar and Amarr destroyers V automagically. On the other hand I will only receive Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar and Amarr Battlecruisers III since I have all the cruiser skills trained but only have III in Battlecruisers.

To keep it short: Having your frigate and cruiser skills at III and destroyers or battle cruisers at I+ means you get free sp.