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Solo WH Living, your experiences?
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Flardowell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-01 15:47:44 UTC
So WH's are the single thing I really haven't touched in this game, and now i'm interested to try it out.

From what I can tell, a C2/C3 with a hi-sec/C3 static is what i'm probably looking for. I'm a very skilled player so fitting up a tengu to solo C3's isn't an issue, neither is having multiple ships or setting up a small POS for my operations. I'm just looking for a bit of advice on what to expect (I know the gist of WH living, moreso for solo-living tricks)
Cruella Deathwing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-01-01 16:11:25 UTC
You're NOT looking anything with high-sec static for solo living. Unless you're interested in living in a system that serves as a transit route for other players a lot of time.
c3-null is your choice. c3-low if you're scared of isolation too much.
Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-01 16:15:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Sushi Nardieu
Can you octa-box?




you want a separate account for

a) scanning/scout
b) blapping boat (t3)
c) capital

2 of 3 needs to be able to scan competently

The Guns of Knowledge 
Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-01 16:31:36 UTC
My experiences so far...
- you need multiple accounts
- you will burn out sooner or later
- look for a system with c2 or c3 static and no highsec static
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#5 - 2013-01-01 16:31:51 UTC
Flardowell wrote:
So WH's are the single thing I really haven't touched in this game, and now i'm interested to try it out.

From what I can tell, a C2/C3 with a hi-sec/C3 static is what i'm probably looking for. I'm a very skilled player so fitting up a tengu to solo C3's isn't an issue, neither is having multiple ships or setting up a small POS for my operations. I'm just looking for a bit of advice on what to expect (I know the gist of WH living, moreso for solo-living tricks)



If you live in a C3 with any static, you will proly die a lot, be camped in or have your sites ran while you watch. If they're nice like we are, then you get some pleasant convo in local and in some instances an isk donation depending on how much we make.

WH Class
If you live in a C1/C2, then you need a static to raid so C2>C3 is probably ideal for you, but with hi sec statics they do have a lot of traffic.

Security
probe all signatures > drop combat > spam analyze > investigate ANY new sig and safe up, if new sig you have to check it out

always run the Mags/Radars first so you can observe the wh system for activity (probes, new sigs, ships on scan etc.)

goodluck

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-01 17:13:09 UTC
Flardowell wrote:
So WH's are the single thing I really haven't touched in this game, and now i'm interested to try it out.

From what I can tell, a C2/C3 with a hi-sec/C3 static is what i'm probably looking for. I'm a very skilled player so fitting up a tengu to solo C3's isn't an issue, neither is having multiple ships or setting up a small POS for my operations. I'm just looking for a bit of advice on what to expect (I know the gist of WH living, moreso for solo-living tricks)


C2 with a small POS...

First off, define solo. Truly solo? (one account?) Army of alts?

As a solo corp I'd definitely steer clear of most C2's C2's are one of the most popular WH's in the game. Finding one is hard. Keeping one can be harder. If the C2 is even remotely desirable, and you seem evictable, you will be. Especially with anything less than a large tower.

I moved solo into a C1 back when I had only been playing around 5 months. A C1/LS is actually a nice solo WH. I lived in it 6 months and it averaged about 500mil a week from sites. I made about 2bil a month from PI (army of PI alts). And when the WH was empty I'd pop out to LS to do whatever. Hunt if it was a good area, explore if it was empty.

I've also lived in a C3. We did not get camped in, or killed alot as Vegas infers. A C3 however is probably the most popular static to farm, so you do get much more traffic through them. If you leave your sites sitting around, someone else will snatch them up. On average a C3 made around a bil a week from sites. I never got around to restarting my PI.

If you truly want a WH quiet enough to be solo in, with a static, I'd look for a C4 with a static C1-3.

Ultimately however, it gets horribly loney being solo in a WH. I eventually moved out of my first C1 for that reason. If you really want to experience WH life, join a WH corp. WH life is really about forming tight knit groups who work together in the vastness of the unknown.

That being said, there are plenty of corps out there, so you can join a small corp instead of one of the big powerhouses if the big corp thing isn't for you.
Jim Womack
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-01-01 18:33:06 UTC
I did it for about a mo in the first wh corp I joined... there were about 6 of us in total and everyone but me got caught up IRL..

Its doable but by no means optimal, your basically running anoms in-between being ganked. I had two accts and I was always afraid of being podded on both acts and having to rely on backup scanners in system to not loose my home..

the to do list
scanning - you
Hauling fuel - you
PI - you
Site running - you
Loot hauling - you
Loot selling - you
ect......
TomyLobo
U2EZ
#8 - 2013-01-01 18:34:31 UTC  |  Edited by: TomyLobo
I just started my wh corp and I've had a week to myself of sorting all the regular shenanigans out. Wh collapsing, scanning new routes and so on. I lost 2 Battleships while collapsing my HS, so yeah, it is definitely tasking but I've also learnt some important things, since I've moved in here, that will prove useful to me in the future and one can also say, I'm partially prepared, as I've lived in almost every class of wh as a group, especially high end whs, for a reasonable amount of time so I'm kinda used to the environment.

My point is this, you'll be better off joining a wh corp since you have no idea how whs work and if you think you can read all about it from a guide on the internet, then you are very wrong. You gotta feel it to know it. You will find yourself getting ganked over things people will consider glaringly obvious and if you aren't prepared, you'll lose more than you bargained for. Fact is, it won't take you long to pack your stuff and move back to k-space, but that's even if you have any stuff left.

Another thing to note about wh space is that you'll lose ships and pods, it's just a matter of when. You can take a few steps and precautions to minimize the frequency but it's a terrible idea to learn all of that on your own. Not saying it's impossible but it's too much for a new, solo player.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-01 22:49:17 UTC
EVE is a multiplayer game and WHs are the most multiplayer aspect of EVE and you want to do it solo?
Youre much much better off joining a corp.

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Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-01-01 23:26:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolvun
I have lived solo in a C3 with a HS static and have lived in a C2 with a C3 static that i have at times soloed.

Doing it requires many accounts to do safely, the C2 with C3 static is more dangerous but is a limitless supply of isk. The C3 static HS is not really dangerous at all unless your an idiot really, you will get lots of transient WH's to you but that can be part of the fun, but mostly you will run out of sites to do in a C3 HS and have to go to kspace a lot to scan for WH for people to shoot at it really gets that boring.

All in all though you will burn yourself out like i did. There is only so much isk you can farm by yourself with having no way to spend it, you mostly will only get small gang PVP if you go elsewhere to look for it, the people coming into your WH through other WH's you wont be able to solo in the most part.

In the end you will find it very boring, find a good WH corp you will still make lots of isk and get to shoot at people too.
Akuma Tsukai
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-01-02 02:27:26 UTC
Doing C3 solo is a waste of time.
Living in WH solo requires several alts (so its not solo anymore) or POS.
Going in WH, robbing it dry and leaving a cargo can with big "**** YOU" written on its side for WH "owners" is profitable, fun, can be done solo and **** people off to no limit Twisted
P.S. Its reccomended to leave a can at their POS.
Ossirrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-01-02 02:45:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ossirrus
Like many others i have at times been forced to do this due to the circumstances of my other corp members disappearing .

While i don't know why you would purposely force this situation upon yourself it is indeed achievable. My situation was a c2 with a c1/HS static. I mainly farmed the c1 static in throw away Drakes. Toward the end of my stay with that corp i was running 2 accounts 1 to run the sites and the other to spam a combat probe for new sigs.

If you only have access to 1 account id say a tengu with the probe subsystem would be the safest bet where you can kill and scan the system for new sigs all in 1 boat. The other option would be to run in throw away drakes and well... when you get ganked you shrug it off and pray you dont get podded.

As has been suggested however this is a horrible living if not for anything else other then the isolation. You can make far more isk and have much more fun by joining a corp in a higher class wormhole.

e: stupid autocomplete
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#13 - 2013-01-02 03:35:51 UTC
My old wormhole nomad thread went inactive and got locked while I was away, but if you find that there's quite a bit of discussion about solo wormhole life. Personally, I strongly recommend being nomadic. There's no good reason to stay in one place if you're going to be running C3 and lower. Travel light and be able to move from system to system as needed. It's far more productive than sitting in a single system alone and gives you the opportunity to meet people. Contrary to the beliefs of certain nullbears, the w-space community is pretty awesome and you'll find a lot of cool dudes out there.

It's a lot easier to do this with multiple accounts, but I'm going to assume a single account because I haven't spent a lot of time on making that work in the past. This can be done with two characters, but I'll assume you can devote all three to the project because it makes things a lot easier. They should ALL be able to scan and cloak.

1) Your main, obviously. This will be your PVE pilot.

2) Your salvager. Compared to a Tengu, the Noctis is cheap and hauls a lot.

3) Your hauler. This is your fall-back plan. If everything else goes wrong, thus guy gets out with all the stuff you've piled up.

If you opt for two characters, load your noctis up with missiles for the Tengu so you can go longer between resupply trips.

Put all of your characters in a corp you control and give them the roles to modify corp bookmarks. This will let you bookmark wrecks, sites, cans, and wormholes so you can move easily between them.

In the wormhole, you'll need to make a few safe spot bookmarks and log your guys out there. If you need to reload your missiles, have your hauler drop a can at a safe and then log your tengu in to pick them up.

Remember to cloak while scanning. No reason to leave yourself a target.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#14 - 2013-01-02 03:40:44 UTC
Ossirrus wrote:
As has been suggested however this is a horrible living if not for anything else other then the isolation. You can make far more isk and have much more fun by joining a corp in a higher class wormhole.

It's far less isolated than you might think. My oldest contacts in Eve come from my w-space wanderings. From my early losses and the questions I asked my killers afterward to the cat-and-mouse games that turned into friendly conversations with roaming T3 fleets to some hilarity in a C5 with some members of exhale, solo wormhole life was anything but isolated.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.