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New computer for EVE...

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Shacheh
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-12-31 07:07:48 UTC
Hey,

I'm going to buy a new computer, it needs to be a laptop and able to run big fights in EVE..
How would the rig below sound:

Lenovo IdeaPad Y500 15.6" Full HD/Core i7-3630QM/2 x GT650M 2GB SLI/8 GB/1 TB + 16 GB mSATA SSD/Windows 8

I don't even know if this post is supposed to be here but I'm at work and bored!
Raemes T Quirk
United Systems Industry
#2 - 2012-12-31 07:17:33 UTC
I've been looking at the Y580. Checked out a lot of reviews, etc, and it seems excellent.
Gal'o Sengen
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-12-31 07:24:17 UTC
For the cost of a "Gaming" laptop you can build a cheap desktop of equivalent power and a cheap laptop for whatever else you need that for. Do that instead. Gaming laptops are an atrocious choice because when they overheat there's absolutely nothing you can do about it short of paying hundreds to send to to the manufacturer or voiding the Warranty.
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-31 07:49:36 UTC
Should work great but get a cooling pad
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#5 - 2012-12-31 08:01:38 UTC
Gal'o Sengen wrote:
For the cost of a "Gaming" laptop you can build a cheap desktop of equivalent power and a cheap laptop for whatever else you need that for. Do that instead. Gaming laptops are an atrocious choice because when they overheat there's absolutely nothing you can do about it short of paying hundreds to send to to the manufacturer or voiding the Warranty.

Pretty much this, although its not like EVE is the most resource intensive game out there, a moderately good/expensive laptop could probably run EVE rather well

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-12-31 08:03:46 UTC
EvEa Deva wrote:
Should work great but get a cooling pad


Absolutely this
Shacheh
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-12-31 08:15:07 UTC
Gal'o Sengen wrote:
For the cost of a "Gaming" laptop you can build a cheap desktop of equivalent power and a cheap laptop for whatever else you need that for. Do that instead. Gaming laptops are an atrocious choice because when they overheat there's absolutely nothing you can do about it short of paying hundreds to send to to the manufacturer or voiding the Warranty.


I'm not worried about the price and I really need a laptop for other reasons as well, just charting my options here.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#8 - 2012-12-31 08:22:31 UTC
Well my toshiba satellite L300 runs this game at low settings so I would say there is no need to go out and get an expensive laptop to run eve.

Get yourself a good desktop to run eve on good settings and a laptop to run eve on moderate settings. If you shop around you will probably find that this combo would be cheaper than that singular overcharged heatsink waiting to burn out.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#9 - 2012-12-31 08:30:03 UTC
I melted 3 laptop so far in last 2 years with gaming...they can put some staggering gear in one..first will go thermal paste follow by cpu/gpu fans i will never again buy laptop for more than fancy object on stand to impress girlfriend girlfriends.

buy hey trial of error is best way anyway.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-12-31 13:11:38 UTC
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#11 - 2012-12-31 13:18:30 UTC
Shacheh wrote:
Gal'o Sengen wrote:
For the cost of a "Gaming" laptop you can build a cheap desktop of equivalent power and a cheap laptop for whatever else you need that for. Do that instead. Gaming laptops are an atrocious choice because when they overheat there's absolutely nothing you can do about it short of paying hundreds to send to to the manufacturer or voiding the Warranty.


I'm not worried about the price and I really need a laptop for other reasons as well, just charting my options here.



What he's saying is that, for the same amount of money, you can get a more portable laptop for the things you need a laptop for AND a gaming desktop for, well...

i.e. Say I need a laptop for business and want a gaming computer as well. I could spend $1500-2000 on a good gaming Laptop and have to lug around a heavy 17" laptop for business while having a mediocre gaming experience (but a nice space heater). Or, I could spend $800 on a nice, portable 13" laptop for business and $700-1200 on a gaming desktop that will provide significantly better performance than the gaming laptop would and be cheaply upgradeable in the future.

The cost is the same either way, but you get a more portable laptop and a better gaming computer if you get both separately.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#12 - 2013-01-01 13:00:01 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
Well my toshiba satellite L300 runs this game at low settings so I would say there is no need to go out and get an expensive laptop to run eve.

Get yourself a good desktop to run eve on good settings and a laptop to run eve on moderate settings. If you shop around you will probably find that this combo would be cheaper than that singular overcharged heatsink waiting to burn out.


That "singular overcharged heatsink" is only listed at ~ $800; I'd assume if you bought a laptop and built a PC it'd run you more than that on average, no matter where you are, considering the cheapest laptop I've ever seen is a little more than half that provided it's not barebones. Even the barebones nearly cost half that.

Heck, your two OS will cost you a third of that.

..maybe I wasn't paying attention and the price was in another currency? ..other than USD.

My cheapest build PC would still cost near $450 CAD with the OS, wouldn't be likely to last 2 years, probably couldn't run EVE on anything but minimum settings with a guarantee it wouldn't run CQ, and would generally be of severely limited capability and consisting of lowest grade components.

Why would you bother? $800 for a gaming laptop isn't bad at all.
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2013-01-01 14:03:42 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
My cheapest build PC would still cost near $450 CAD with the OS, wouldn't be likely to last 2 years, probably couldn't run EVE on anything but minimum settings with a guarantee it wouldn't run CQ, and would generally be of severely limited capability and consisting of lowest grade components.

Why would you bother? $800 for a gaming laptop isn't bad at all.



Haha, what? I run EVE on a 5 year old Macbook Pro with Integrated graphics, and I can run better than minimum settings (on an external monitor to boot). What kind of pile of overpriced crap are you putting into your builds?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2013-01-01 21:20:30 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
My cheapest build PC would still cost near $450 CAD with the OS, wouldn't be likely to last 2 years, probably couldn't run EVE on anything but minimum settings with a guarantee it wouldn't run CQ, and would generally be of severely limited capability and consisting of lowest grade components.

Why would you bother? $800 for a gaming laptop isn't bad at all.



Haha, what? I run EVE on a 5 year old Macbook Pro with Integrated graphics, and I can run better than minimum settings (on an external monitor to boot). What kind of pile of overpriced crap are you putting into your builds?


Now, remember how low the resolution on your 5 years old MacBook Pro is compared to the laptops that are out today. I even think that my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note) have the same resolution as your MacBook Pro.

You get laptops today with full HD resolution and more than that to.

On my Samsung 9-series NP900X4C laptop, i can run EVE Online on a mix of low and medium graphic settings on 1600x900 resolution.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#15 - 2013-01-01 22:13:37 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
NightmareX wrote:
Now, remember how low the resolution on your 5 years old MacBook Pro is compared to the laptops that are out today. I even think that my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note) have the same resolution as your MacBook Pro.

You get laptops today with full HD resolution and more than that to.

On my Samsung 9-series NP900X4C laptop, i can run EVE Online on a mix of low and medium graphic settings on 1600x900 resolution.



I run EVE on my external 1920x1080 screen. Which is pretty normal for monitors in the budget range of monitors (that go well with a budget PC).

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2013-01-01 22:17:52 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
RubyPorto wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Now, remember how low the resolution on your 5 years old MacBook Pro is compared to the laptops that are out today. I even think that my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note) have the same resolution as your MacBook Pro.

You get laptops today with full HD resolution and more than that to.

On my Samsung 9-series NP900X4C laptop, i can run EVE Online on a mix of low and medium graphic settings on 1600x900 resolution.



I run EVE on my external 1920x1080 screen. Which is pretty normal for monitors in the budget range of monitors (that go well with a budget PC).


Still, i just want to know how you can run EVE with better graphic settings than low on a 5 years old MacBookPro (that most likely have an Intel GMA gpu in the CPU) on 1920x1080 resolution.

If you can run it though, your FPS must be pretty low.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#17 - 2013-01-01 22:36:55 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Still, i just want to know how you can run EVE with better graphic settings than low on a 5 years old MacBookPro (that most likely have an Intel GMA gpu in the CPU) on 1920x1080 resolution.

If you can run it though, your FPS must be pretty low.


In the 30s.

But EVE's a turn based game that runs a turn every second, so anything beyond ~24FPS (a movie) is not exactly important.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon