Missions & Complexes

Hi

We recently has a guy black mailing us for isk by using 4 alts to keep incursion sites open in high sec stopin other sites to respawn.

I wouls like to know how is this not a exploit.

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I would like to know how it its not a exploit, seen the GM telling me as response to my petition that it its ok for him to do so.

I thought the use of game mechanics in any other way that what they are intended to is illegal. And yes he did private convo us and told us in local that we need to pay him or he will stay there blocking the respawns.

Thank you.

Amongst 10 bears you don't have 3 with destroyer flying alts that can gank his alts

Um perhaps because CCP made a change to prevent people holding open sites back in Crucible - http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?newpatchlogID=3219

Specifically they made a change to prevent cloaked ships keeping a site open to prevent it despawning.

Now in this case they people holding the sites open are simply using day-old characters in noob ships.

It is perfectly possible to have a few ships to gank said alt, who then simply gets a new noob ship and repeats the process, assuming he doesn't just sit there in his pod - afterall what does it matter if a day old alt gets podded?

Turning your question on its head why WOULDN'T it be an exploit?

http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=336


If he is ransoming then by what that states he is doing it for profit and is fine. Just blow em up

apparently a gm did say it was ok. Eve is sand box If a bully comes and takes all your toys, you punch him back. Dont complain that you may get a few scrapes in the fight.

You seem unable to follow the logic, allow me to spell it out for you:

CCP have already said that it is not ok to hold a site open perpetually in a way that cannot be countered (by using a cloaked ship).

I am saying that it is equally not possible to counter people using multiple day old alts in noob ships to hold sites open thus this practice should also be disallowed.

As for suggesting bounties you obviously don't know how bounties work - you could put a billion credit bounty on these alts, it doesn't let you attack them without concord blowing you away and it isn't going to encourage anyone else to attack them - they are flying noob ships so the bounty payout is nothing.

People responding with things like just punch him back seem to be just seem to be using the old 'its a sandbox' argument - well if its a sandbox and (to use an equally old arguement) there should be no reward without risk you seem to be missing the fact the people doing this HAVE NO RISK - they pay nothing for their ships or for their clones.

I see nothing saying that my idea has been considered beyond a gm response of working as intended.

Unless you are claiming GMs have never been known to make a mistake that hardly considers proof - how do you even know GMs were aware of the precedent I have cited?

I mean the devs had to decide how they wanted the mechanic to function whenever they made the balance change.

In a hq system there is 4 normal sited and 1 boss site that you need to complete to close the incursion and the lp payment.

Although it is constellation wide every system has a different level of difficulty (hq highest and best pay).

Moving around other systems to make lower level less pay sites its fine but that is not the issue.

Issue is simple. Someone is abusing game mechanics in a way it was not intended to make profit and stop others from enjoying the game.

If it was null sec this was not a problem as he'd be killed by now. Problem is this is not nullsec this is highsec and we can't go around killing noob ships and pods every 5min the time it would take him to get in a new noob ship and come back.

I got 3 accounts all up and running i can make other things for isk so its not huge issue for me but its a matter of fair play, something that the gm's apparently don't know about.

Is This A TVP Member - Checklist:


Current OP has no clue about game mechanic's - Check

Current OP makes it known to the world he has a problem - Check

Current OP lacks some common sense and change to a different site, Vanguard, Assault etc - Check

Current OP is sick of griefers stealing "there" sites - Check


Conclusion - TVP pilot need attention


Ok, silliness aside for a moment, know i can understand why people are doing this and they have been doing this for a very long time, ask yourself why they re doing it? It is rather simple, to make you cry and make it known to the world that you are indeed crying, good job on that regard!

You need to understand that there is still "Mechanics" in this game that is indeed "broken", I can write you a healthy list, but the fact still stands that you need to understand that people will abuse these Mechanics, Nobody will get banned or told off, due to CCP have got bigger problems on there plate, I understand that this annoying you but please you some brain cells and maybe downgrade to a Assault, Vanguard etc, it isn't that hard.

I really cannot see a problem here, but indeed you lack the information judging by you contacting a GM, It is indeed a Game Mechanic and he is doing nothing wrong what so ever, am afraid you just need to bring your portable tear bucket for the times ahead!

No but really, I think you can handle this problem if you give it some thought.