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Overview Settings: Filter out bounties so small that they are not worth my time
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Fortuna Cournot
Red Phoenix Rising
#1 - 2012-12-31 02:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Fortuna Cournot
I detected players who are placing low bounties (100k) on people. It seems to be affordable for almost any rich player to mark the whole eve universe "WANTED". I think this an exploit of the bounty system and renders it useless. Sad

I ask you, CSM and community, for a change. Bear

[edited] Conclusion: See new topic subject... Overview Settings: Filter out bounties so small that they are not worth my time

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-12-31 20:57:57 UTC
As you appear to be upset about the low bounty threshold, I've added 100m to your bounty. Enjoy!

And to the proposal itself, no, there's no good reason why it should be 1m instead of 100k. Giving everyone 100k bounties is hardly an exploit and the idea that it makes it "useless" is laughable.

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Fortuna Cournot
Red Phoenix Rising
#3 - 2013-01-01 18:05:39 UTC
I'm prettier.

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Raw Matters
KRAUTZ IN SPACE
Macabric Trick
#4 - 2013-01-03 11:27:54 UTC
There are actually people who seem to use bots to place bounties on everyone.

I've been in Jita recently and someone asked what the word "Scam" means, so I said: "Scam is, if someone says like: Give me any amount of ISK and I double it! Guaranteed!"

2 seconds later I had 100k bounty on my head. As no one can actually place bounty this fast by hand and several other people had the same issue with the same person placing the bounty, my guess is that this is a bot watching the chat for certain words (scammers?) and throws around bounties.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#5 - 2013-01-03 16:30:45 UTC
Sorry OP, I don't support your proposal. IMHO, the new bounty system was a fantastic part of Retribution and very well thought out too (congrats to all involved btw). My main critisim of your proposal is that I can't see why a small bounty on your head would be something to worry about in the first place.What?
Fortuna Cournot
Red Phoenix Rising
#6 - 2013-01-03 17:54:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Fortuna Cournot
You missed the point. You don't understand or i'm not familar enough with english.

The low bounty on me or someone else isn't really the problem itself.

The important word is "everybody": I detected that bounties are placed on almost everybody around Jita.

The problem is see is that the following game feature helpful for bounty hunters, to detect pilots with interesting bounties, gets unusable if more than half of the players in the universe have a useless bounty on them:

Overview window / Icon column / "Player has bounty on him"

... and if there is no chance to set a filter on the bounty amount to be tracking or place a threshold on the initial bounty.

PS: Yes - i agree that "the new bounty system was a fantastic part of Retribution".

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#7 - 2013-01-04 05:35:13 UTC
well. CCP could make it configurable at which point a char appears for you as WANTED or as "has bounty" on the overview. So everybody could decide for himself where the threshold is.

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Fortuna Cournot
Red Phoenix Rising
#8 - 2013-01-04 07:18:59 UTC
yes. exactly.

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Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#9 - 2013-01-04 09:07:58 UTC
Fortuna Cournot wrote:
You missed the point. You don't understand or i'm not familar enough with english.

The low bounty on me or someone else isn't really the problem itself.

The important word is "everybody": I detected that bounties are placed on almost everybody around Jita.

The problem is see is that the following game feature helpful for bounty hunters, to detect pilots with interesting bounties, gets unusable if more than half of the players in the universe have a useless bounty on them:

Overview window / Icon column / "Player has bounty on him"

... and if there is no chance to set a filter on the bounty amount to be tracking or place a threshold on the initial bounty.

PS: Yes - i agree that "the new bounty system was a fantastic part of Retribution".


My bad and apologies, I did miss your point. An appropriate filter in the overview options I could support, assuming the coding would not be resource hungry.
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#10 - 2013-01-08 10:42:34 UTC
there is no problem with everyone having a bounty, nuff siad

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-01-08 11:03:56 UTC
Fortuna Cournot wrote:
I detected player who places low bounties (100k) on people. It seems to affordable for almost any rich player to mark the whole eve universe "WANTED". This think this an explot of the bounty system and renders it useless. Sad

I ask you, CSM and community, for a change. Bear

A suggestion is that the initial bounty, when the player has no bounty on him, must be significant higher.
I think 1 Million ISK may do.



I suggest that the bounty system be reformed as follows:

People I DO like should be able to freely put bounties on anyone I DONT like

People I don't like should be unable to put bounties on anyone I DO like.

This is the only possible way to have a fair bounty system and of course it will help new players.

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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2013-01-08 16:59:46 UTC
Scale the "Wanted" sign on the portrait with security status of individual .. current size could be -10.0, one third that for 0.0 and half again for -5.

Biggest problem is that "has bounty" is not ticked by default in OV settings since everyone has one now, I had a hell of a time (lost a ship to WT!) figuring out why stuff didn't show properly.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-01-08 18:52:07 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
well. CCP could make it configurable at which point a char appears for you as WANTED or as "has bounty" on the overview. So everybody could decide for himself where the threshold is.


First reasonable idea I've heard wrt to the wanted signs.

I would have np with this, if it was easily coded (I have no clue).

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Fortuna Cournot
Red Phoenix Rising
#14 - 2013-01-09 03:20:44 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

I suggest that the bounty system be reformed as follows:

People I DO like should be able to freely put bounties on anyone I DONT like

People I don't like should be unable to put bounties on anyone I DO like.

This is the only possible way to have a fair bounty system and of course it will help new players.


Maybe CCP can fix it customizable game rule sets and corp servers. I suggest april 1st as ETA for the release date.

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Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#15 - 2013-01-11 22:11:51 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Scale the "Wanted" sign on the portrait with security status of individual .. current size could be -10.0, one third that for 0.0 and half again for -5.

Biggest problem is that "has bounty" is not ticked by default in OV settings since everyone has one now, I had a hell of a time (lost a ship to WT!) figuring out why stuff didn't show properly.

Security status isn't really relevant to bounties though - James 315, for example, has positive sec status but well over a billion ISK on his head in bounties.

I do support the idea of having a filter to only show the 'Wanted' above a user-set threshold though.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-13 05:44:57 UTC
Confirming that I have been spamming minimum bounties on anyone and everyone I can find. Not because I want them dead, but because of the overreaction and tantrum they perform... much like the OP in this thread.

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Seamus Donohue
EVE University
Ivy League
#17 - 2013-01-13 06:57:40 UTC
You might want to rename the thread to "Overview Settings: Filter out bounties so small that they are not worth my time."

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sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-01-13 17:24:59 UTC
There are ppl going around rookie systems placing 100k (which noobs think is a lot) to make them panic. Of course, this goes along with nice pms and chats in local detailing what its significance is (according to the helpful vet) and why the noobs should quit Eve. Working as intended?Bear
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-01-15 19:08:59 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
There are ppl going around rookie systems placing 100k (which noobs think is a lot) to make them panic.
This part is true.
sabre906 wrote:
Of course, this goes along with nice pms and chats in local detailing what its significance is (according to the helpful vet) and why the noobs should quit Eve. Working as intended?Bear

This is wild speculation and personal assumptions.

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sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-01-15 19:27:56 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
There are ppl going around rookie systems placing 100k (which noobs think is a lot) to make them panic.
This part is true.
sabre906 wrote:
Of course, this goes along with nice pms and chats in local detailing what its significance is (according to the helpful vet) and why the noobs should quit Eve. Working as intended?Bear

This is wild speculation and personal assumptions.


Err... no. Go to a rookie system as this is happening, you'll see noobs asking in local about the mail they got, whether the stuff is true, and if they can expect this at "higher lvls."
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