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Collective front launched against the New Order, James315 and miner bumping.

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Runeme Shilter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#361 - 2013-01-01 01:24:22 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
ho chiminh wrote:
Now I have killrights for 7 or 8 new players flying catalysts- whoopee!


There is little point, however, as you can be fairly certain that they will all be biomassed by the end of the month and replaced with new disposable suicide gank alts.


You must be new here (or fail at reading). As I said earlier, that is a banable offense. There are a lot of -10 people flying around in High Sec.
Lin Suizei
#362 - 2013-01-01 02:14:04 UTC
ho chiminh wrote:
I don't consider it griefing, but still I mine in my main, please gank in yours.


I gank using my main, because I love killing people who think they cannot be killed in Highsec. I'm not the only one either.

Lol I can't delete my forum sig.

Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#363 - 2013-01-01 08:14:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Alana Charen-Teng
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:
Its just about risk and reward and loss ,These members of the new order have nothing to lose so hence they cant ever lose the only people who lose are the victems.New miners who invest in a ship and fit to mine ice have a great deal to lose.


You said that 'these members of the new order have nothing to lose' - I would dispute that. If you are only looking at the situation by comparing ISK investment, then we have the advantage in being able to deploy a handful of tech1-fitted catalysts for the chance to destroy a 200 mil exhumer. The factor you have not taken into account is that we need a coordinated team of players, each devoting their time and attention, to kill a single target - there's a great deal of opportunity cost involved on our side.
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#364 - 2013-01-01 08:15:24 UTC
I too gank with my main character, this one, and I too love killing carebears that feel entitled to safety. :)

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com

Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#365 - 2013-01-01 08:21:09 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Highsec cannot be allowed to harbor bumpers any more than it is gankers. It has far too many of both.

I don't understand what you're saying here. Elaborate, please?
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#366 - 2013-01-01 11:08:12 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Actually, that's quite against the rules. Biomassing to escape consequences is not allowed.


Oh yes, I understand the principle of what you are saying. It most certainly is not allowed, just as harassment is not allowed, using bots is not allowed, sharing accounts is not allowed, and so on and so forth. I am well aware of these rules and likewise I am well aware at how shamefully often they are bent, flaunted, disregarded and generally ignored. It is a good thing, too, because if CCP were to crack down and ban everyone who ever broke any of their cornucopia of rules then they would be committing financial suicide with the sheer number of subscribers that they would lose from such a course of action.
Singular Snowflake
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#367 - 2013-01-01 11:46:59 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Actually, that's quite against the rules. Biomassing to escape consequences is not allowed.


Oh yes, I understand the principle of what you are saying. It most certainly is not allowed, just as harassment is not allowed, using bots is not allowed, sharing accounts is not allowed, and so on and so forth. I am well aware of these rules and likewise I am well aware at how shamefully often they are bent, flaunted, disregarded and generally ignored. It is a good thing, too, because if CCP were to crack down and ban everyone who ever broke any of their cornucopia of rules then they would be committing financial suicide with the sheer number of subscribers that they would lose from such a course of action.

Why would we biomass our characters? I, for one, am proud of my near -10 sec status.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#368 - 2013-01-01 13:11:25 UTC
I'm at work and don't have time to read all 19 pages of this. Can the OP update us on what actions he has taken against the Savior of Highsec? I subscribed to his mailing list but so far have only received one mail to tell me that he wrote some silly article. I want news about what he has actually done to further his agenda.

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#369 - 2013-01-01 13:41:22 UTC
Please pay attention. The OP has written two 'silly articles', crossposted them onto these here forums, and also replied to this thread on his main to deny he founded the movement.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#370 - 2013-01-01 16:45:51 UTC
Hmmm...

I rather thought this movement would involve more explosions. Or maybe hilarious and unexpected shenanigans like counter-bumping or something.

I may have to withdraw my support from the Tolero Guard.Sad

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#371 - 2013-01-01 21:07:55 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Hmmm...

I rather thought this movement would involve more explosions. Or maybe hilarious and unexpected shenanigans like counter-bumping or something.

I may have to withdraw my support from the Tolero Guard.Sad


It's really just another blog about doing stuff, but with out actually doing stuff.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#372 - 2013-01-02 03:08:46 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's really just another blog about doing stuff, but with out actually doing stuff.

Sounds a lot like playing Eve.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#373 - 2013-01-02 15:27:40 UTC
The New Order has inflicted 100bn isk in damages against bots, bot aspirants and other undesirables who have not followed the Code. What has this or any other resistance done?

Anyone?
ho chiminh
SlackaNova
#374 - 2013-01-03 00:58:06 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:
ho chiminh wrote:
Please gank in your mains.

Due to the mandatory "Throttling" by Canadian ISP's my last experience with new order was:
Reds jump into belt, hit warp to station,screen freezes - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, wake up in new pod 15 jumps away. A thrilling experience to be sure.

Now I have killrights for 7 or 8 new players flying catalysts- whoopee! I'm sure I'll catch a few in Bawilan or Brapellille, but really not worth more than a couple hours to pop pilots with nothing ships.

I don't consider it griefing, but still I mine in my main, please gank in yours.


Sorry your ISP kept you from getting the full Knights of the New Order experience. May I recommend the following so you can see what you missed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j--VIJanLm4

BBB


I'll admit that is a pretty video!
Agent Eunoli
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#375 - 2013-01-03 02:03:39 UTC
ho chiminh wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
ho chiminh wrote:
Please gank in your mains.

Due to the mandatory "Throttling" by Canadian ISP's my last experience with new order was:
Reds jump into belt, hit warp to station,screen freezes - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, wake up in new pod 15 jumps away. A thrilling experience to be sure.

Now I have killrights for 7 or 8 new players flying catalysts- whoopee! I'm sure I'll catch a few in Bawilan or Brapellille, but really not worth more than a couple hours to pop pilots with nothing ships.

I don't consider it griefing, but still I mine in my main, please gank in yours.


Sorry your ISP kept you from getting the full Knights of the New Order experience. May I recommend the following so you can see what you missed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j--VIJanLm4

BBB


I'll admit that is a pretty video!

Hey thanks!

That was my first EVE video! :) I'm glad you enjoyed it (regardless of what you may think of the actions therein).

My goal is to make entertaining and pretty videos. There is a second one up now as well.

Cinematic HD EVE Movies: http://www.youtube.com/user/EveEunoli/

Thomas Gore
Blackfyre Enterprise
#376 - 2013-01-03 06:48:48 UTC
There are 10000 AFK miners in EVE, because James315 allows them to live... for now.

This thread is full of win.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#377 - 2013-01-03 11:19:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
I see this as a Goon attempt to get CCP to do some sort of mechanism that will enable people to fight from bumping, after which they will exploit the hell out of it to get easy kills, being the gank bears that they are. If they kill botters and people AFK mining in poorly tanked ships so what? CCP made mining ships viable which made me a happy bunny, personally I have no idea why people fly anything other than a Skiff? In terms of the bumping, they used the bumping of freighters first, now there is this effort, so they obviously think that they can manipulate CCP from the reaction of miners, do not fall for it, you have the ship classes to be fairly safe from gankers, use them, you can orbit close to roids and make it difficult to bump, do it!

A Skiff is fast and can nip around, if you get hassled by these people switch to one and laugh at them, you can get a Skiff to 104k EHP, how may Gank Catalysts is that? Seriously man up stop moaning and use the existing mechanics to defeat them, now we have mining ships that have defences better than a wet paper bag people should use them!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Lin Suizei
#378 - 2013-01-03 11:42:40 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Seriously man up stop moaning and use the existing mechanics to defeat them, now we have mining ships that have defences better than a wet paper bag people should use them!


But why should miners save themselves with the mechanisms within their easy reach (i.e. by purchasing a New Order Mining Permit and mining in accordance with the Code) when they can just wail to CCP about buffing mining barges and send petitions about New Order players?

Lol I can't delete my forum sig.

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#379 - 2013-01-03 11:53:04 UTC
Mining ships have been buffed to make them viable, before they were a complete joke, anyone wailing and petitioning about your group should go and play some other game.

Lin Suizei wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Seriously man up stop moaning and use the existing mechanics to defeat them, now we have mining ships that have defences better than a wet paper bag people should use them!


But why should miners save themselves with the mechanisms within their easy reach (i.e. by purchasing a New Order Mining Permit and mining in accordance with the Code) when they can just wail to CCP about buffing mining barges and send petitions about New Order players?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
#380 - 2013-01-03 12:03:28 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
I see this as a Goon attempt to


Funny how everything seems to get tied back to the goons Lol

I've been following the miner bumping because the reactions are hilarious, it just boggles my mind how people can hem and haw and complain but not actually DO anything.

How's this latest resistance coming along?