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PvE seriously needs to be overhauled

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Petra Hakaari
Stalking Wolfpack
#61 - 2012-12-31 23:43:08 UTC
I think i've already made my point clear enough, i dont need to keep arguing.

Because tities .

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#62 - 2012-12-31 23:45:14 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
I think i've already made my point clear enough, i dont need to keep arguing.

Not on GD, you're never done...

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-12-31 23:55:26 UTC
OP's face needs an overhaul, as does this thread.

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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#64 - 2013-01-01 00:11:05 UTC
Toss me on the "PVE in eve is garbage" bandwagon. There is no reason it has to be so. Why mining isn't a minigame that increases yield depending on the players ability to play it is beyond me.
Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-01-01 00:21:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Theron Urian
Why is it any time some one makes a post asking for more fun and in depth pve , a whole bunch of idiots from null just see it as wanting more isk.

News flash you can make missions and pve in general more entertaining with out making it more profitable.


And as for the people that just say go do pvp, maybe some players don't want to pvp 24/7, and they would like to enjoy some pve from time to time instead of mindless shooting of red plus signs.

Why would CCP want to make a game where some elements shine bright and other are a laughing stock. If you like and care about this game you would want evrey element to be great to bring in more players.

This game is full of elitist idiots and cry baby's that are so stuck in the stone age that they put a negative spin on any improvement that does not directly apply to them.

Rant over.

TL:DR Yes overhauling pve would be great, because as much as some people rag on it its where a lot of people spend a good amount of time and where most new players are going to get the first impression of the game.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#66 - 2013-01-01 00:58:16 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Toss me on the "PVE in eve is garbage" bandwagon. There is no reason it has to be so. Why mining isn't a minigame that increases yield depending on the players ability to play it is beyond me.


Because they didn't want a pointless silly minigame, and couldn't work out a non corny 'minigame' that wouldn't get equally tedious over time as just hitting F1.
I certainly can't work out a base structure for a 'minigame' or mechanism for mining other than what we have that doesn't come with equally large or even larger flaws than we already have.
The best solution I can see is the 'dropped mining drones and mini storage' like a baby PoS, that needs tending every few hours ideally, but you can do some other stuff in the mean time.

As for the missions, LoL @ Marlona, sorry but your first sentance in your linked article just sets the tone as self important.
Even if you do make a lot of good points about making missions less predictable. Simply needing an Omni tank because you don't know the enemies damage types as a given would be a huge change. Let alone trigger spawns vanishing so you can't blitz certain missions etc.
But along side that, needs to be care taken to not Nerf mission income.
Lvl 1 & 2 Missions need a substantial buff in income already. A newbie shouldn't have to grind 50 missions to afford a battle cruiser (& thats optimistic on how much they make). They should be able to do a few and have cash.
And requiring Omni tanking will cut lvl 4 Income, people complete them so fast currently by tanking for a specific faction, and knowing exactly the tank required so they can maximise DPS. Any change to that will cut income, and High already has the lowest income potential. Sure it has the lowest risk also so I'm not saying it needs 'more' income, but one does have to be aware that changes to make missions less predictable will both drop income and increase risk (assuming pay outs stay constant)
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-01-01 00:58:33 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Toss me on the "PVE in eve is garbage" bandwagon. There is no reason it has to be so. Why mining isn't a minigame that increases yield depending on the players ability to play it is beyond me.

I'm amazed that CCP haven't done anything about the PvE if only from sheer embarrassment.

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Baroness Vulna
Armada vi Vulnezia
#68 - 2013-01-01 01:01:53 UTC
7 year veteran here who is having trouble with a level 2 mission using a destroyer. I think pve needs fixing too. Shocked

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#69 - 2013-01-01 01:02:04 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
I think i've already made my point clear enough, i dont need to keep arguing.


Yes, you request for a buff to high sec has been completely destroyed, there is indeed no reason to keep arguing.

Ocih
Space Mermaids
#70 - 2013-01-01 01:04:12 UTC
Drop some probes, they have done some of the things you suggested. The number of unknown combat plexes like desolate sites as gone up 5X
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#71 - 2013-01-01 01:05:24 UTC
Theron Urian wrote:
Why is it any time some one makes a post asking for more fun and in depth pve , a whole bunch of idiots from null just see it as wanting more isk.

News flash you can make missions and pve in general more entertaining with out making it more profitable.


That's great to hear. That's also NOT what the OP asked for.

He asked for a buff to high sec anomalies (rather than him getting off his well protectected in high sec duff and going to find better anoms). We are replying to that.

As a mostly pve player, if anyone has any GOOD ideas about how to make pve more fun,I'm all for it, even though I think the pve activities I enjoy (null exploration, lvl 5s and incursions) are fun enough as is. The op has no good ideas, just more lazy "bring the mountain to me in high sec" crap.
Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#72 - 2013-01-01 01:10:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Theron Urian
Bah you got me I skipped over the anom part and only read the section about L4s.

My bad I herp derped reading the full post.

I am just frustrated that there are multiple posts asking for and giving ideas for more dynamic and entertaining PvE content and to my knowledge none of them have been graced by a dev post to even say "hey, yah we are looking in to that" yet devs will go and post in goofy threads in OoPE about what the avatar above them is thinking.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-01-01 01:19:03 UTC
Theron Urian wrote:
Bah you got me I skipped over the anom part and only read the section about L4s.

My bad I herp derped reading the full post.


i thought ccp just made pve more 'entertaining' in the last patch
Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-01-01 01:21:22 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
Theron Urian wrote:
Bah you got me I skipped over the anom part and only read the section about L4s.

My bad I herp derped reading the full post.


i thought ccp just made pve more 'entertaining' in the last patch


Nope sorry its still mindless red plus alph dps popping.
Hannah Flex
#75 - 2013-01-01 01:24:18 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Toss me on the "PVE in eve is garbage" bandwagon. There is no reason it has to be so. Why mining isn't a minigame that increases yield depending on the players ability to play it is beyond me.


I think they ought to add some 'power' bars that wax and wane and you have to click it on its highpoint to maximize yield. That would keep all the miners at their computers. Ignore the bar and have a poor yield, can you imagine the self-entitled rageposts on EVE-O? Big smile
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#76 - 2013-01-01 01:25:13 UTC
Theron Urian wrote:
Post removed because I actually failed to read the part of OP about anoms.



Yea, and that's what I was replying to.

Like I said, i'm all for pve improvements, the OP wasn't asking for that. The OP essentially wants low/null style anoms in high sec, rather than just "balling up" and leaving high sec protection to get to content that already exists in game.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2013-01-01 01:30:52 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Posting in a stealth buff HS thread.



Another one with a need to train reading skills.


Not really. You talk of an overhaul, but many of your arguments lean towards higher level anoms in high sec. Escalations that stay in high sec, etc. Hence, stealth HS buff. You can try and spin it however you want, but that's where your argument leads.

There are plenty of areas with compelling PVE. WH's for example. They are a complete thrill in comparison to LVL 4 missions.

Take a look at this KB

http://whkills.info/?a=home&y=2012&m=12

It is a collection of all WH based kills. For the month of december, NPC's comprise 3 of the top 10 spots for top killers (Sleepers taking the top spot). I can tell you from experience that makes for good PVE.
Petra Hakaari
Stalking Wolfpack
#78 - 2013-01-01 01:46:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Petra Hakaari
Jenn aSide wrote:
That's great to hear. That's also NOT what the OP asked for.

He asked for a buff to high sec anomalies (rather than him getting off his well protectected in high sec duff and going to find better anoms). We are replying to that.

As a mostly pve player, if anyone has any GOOD ideas about how to make pve more fun,I'm all for it, even though I think the pve activities I enjoy (null exploration, lvl 5s and incursions) are fun enough as is. The op has no good ideas, just more lazy "bring the mountain to me in high sec" crap.




Dude, seriously, shut up, youve only glanced some concepts here, you dont understand half of what has been said here.


Its called forum, ppl can change their minds, at the beginig i was talking about increasing the difficulty of missions but then someone suggested something more interesting that my original point of view and he convinced me, Im an open minded person that only means to suggest a few things to improve his favourite game, if you wanna turn things around and manipulate words youre not being so original, meybe youre doing it because you want it or because you just are too busy raging about new ideas and spitting scum and pucking the typical topics that these forums are so flooded with, youre just a sofist, do yourself a favor and check this word on the dictionary, you might learn something today.


Im sad actually because im quite a hipocrit, i said the argue was over and here i am, but its just that you act like one of those 18 ear old spanish boys i deal with daily on non eglish communities, and sometimes i need to control myself much more than usual.

Because tities .

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#79 - 2013-01-01 01:52:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Petra Hakaari wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
That's great to hear. That's also NOT what the OP asked for.

He asked for a buff to high sec anomalies (rather than him getting off his well protectected in high sec duff and going to find better anoms). We are replying to that.

As a mostly pve player, if anyone has any GOOD ideas about how to make pve more fun,I'm all for it, even though I think the pve activities I enjoy (null exploration, lvl 5s and incursions) are fun enough as is. The op has no good ideas, just more lazy "bring the mountain to me in high sec" crap.




Dude, seriously, shut up, youve only glanced some concepts here, you dont understand half of what has been said here.



(Crocodile Hunter voice)

See here mates, it's a beauty. It's a juvenile HighSecus Buffus of the Welfarious Family. You can see the overly sharp teeth honed by centuries of isk chomping, as well as it's need to post dumb ideas on internet forums then get mad when people tell them why it's a dumb idea.

(/Crocodile Hunter Vocie)

you ideas are dumb and are typical of high sec people. If you want to do better anoms and missions than what's got you so bored in high sec, leave high sec, otherwised shut up.
Petra Hakaari
Stalking Wolfpack
#80 - 2013-01-01 01:58:27 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
(Crocodile Hunter voice)



(/Crocodile Hunter Vocie)




And here is the example of that behavior i mean xDDDDD


You dont need to try to be a clown to get attention, you could just try to use reason and word, not just over and over and over the same dog-eared argument.


Good night, boy.

Because tities .