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Draconis, you know that thing about talking out your ass that everyone says you should stop? well, your'e doing it again.



1) It takes up to 4 or 5 salvos for me to kill them, why? I use Autocannons because they're the proper tool for suicide ganking, not howitzers. (Do I really have to explain this part out? I don't want to.)

2) It is more than plausible to fit a passive shield tank on your Hulk that will last long enough for CONCORD to arrive, wanna know how I know? I've seen it work.

3) The reason why fitting a tank on a Hulk isn't popular is because of the people who fly them that think high sec is a perfectly safe happy place to be, so they lose their hulks because they're dumb. Back when I did mine, I had a passive tank on it, and it worked.

4) The challenge in suicide ganking is not popping the Hulk, it is beating CONCORD. There is no fun what so ever in destroying a defenseless ship (Ok, just a little bit), but destroying the ship before CONCORD arrives is where the fun and the challenge lays in. That was just an fyi for ya.

So please shuttup, if there is a thread about being station camped 24/7 go ahead and post away there cause you would be the expert there, but don't try to look smart in fields you don't know about.

Roldanus, you somewhat missed the point of my previous post, I am attempting to help Draconis understand something he knows nothing about. While my post does have what I believe to be why some people gank and how they do it, I do know other people use other methods. I take it that you're one of the many who are the receiving end of ganking, no? The issue at hand here is not an issue at all, but just a result of Goonswarm.

No worries good friend!! I too enjoyed this small discussion we had, and as a sign of good faith, here is my apology for a mis-leading forum post! Carry on and hope to see you around here!

Eve is a big universe.

There should be room for all styles of play.

People play online games for entertainment.

Some chose a style of play opposite their RL circumstances. Some people want an adrenalin pumping experience, some don't, some want to be bullies. ( Before flaming me as a care bear, I am a RL veteran of the Vietnam War, so flames will fall on deaf ears).

I agree somewhat with the OP, the balance of risk vs reward favors the 'wanna be bad boys'. I would be a fool to solo mine in 0.5 and expect to be immune.

However the "Perception" of accountability for your actions and the "Reality" are where the problem arises.

When you have a CSM member posting on how to exploit the agression timer;

The Mittani

it is a sorry commentary. CSM and CCP should be addressing exploits. Many suggestions have been made for accountability for your actions, few if any have been instituted.

Insurance for suicide ganking and self destructing are both pretty bad. That poor insurance company.

If they deny you payout they should at least refund your premium if you bought insurance.

I fly logistics, and a few times I have gotten sec status dinged because I repped a guy in my fleet and then he did a dumb thing. With RR fleets one guy being dumb can start a chain reaction that causes everyone to lose sec status (sometimes people even do this deliberately as griefing) . Not everyone with low sec status is necessarily an evil serial killer.

And for mere ISK a day, we can teach poor, uneducated carebears like Drake here to read. Please make all donations payable to Jack Carrigan, and in the note, please add "Illiterate **** fund," so that we can stop the illiteracy of the masses. You can help stop this problem. And maybe, just maybe one day, he will come up with an original, and borderline clever troll.


Assumptions. Nothing irritate me more than people blindly assuming things, something Draconis is known for on a quite frequent basis. Anyway, with that said, he obviously has never tried to tank a Hulk.


Passively tanked Hulks make for a reasonably hard target if done right, but then again, that would require at least a baseline knowledge of PvP. Which its obvious that this clown has none of. Isn't that right ZeroSeven? A properly tanked Hulk has better odds of survival against a suicide gank. Why equip cargo mods if you have Orca support? Hiroshi linked a fit that would survive a hit from a Brutix, and if you actually listened to people who OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE THAN YOU, maybe you'd learn something, rather than be sitting in an inactive Corp with an Alliance that has hemorrhaged TWENTY THREE Corps, has lost over SEVEN BILLION ISK worth of blueprints, and is leaking Intel faster than the Titanic was leaking water.

Your entire roster is kind of cute. I find it funny that of the people on it, two of them are you, and of the other seventeen, roughly ten of them haven't logged in for months. Maybe they finally got sick of your totalitarian rule.

In a world of tools, you're the whole ****ing shed.

you sound bitter

did you lose a shuttle carrying an officer mod? be honest

Says the guy who is the only reason his "l33t" Alliance has kills...says the guy who has a leutennate ******** enough to lose 6 plex in a eff'ing caldari shuttle outside of jita.

Says the guy who lost an orca...nearly 2 of them for ******** reasons in low security space of all places near rancer including his entire fleet.

The same guy who calls its a victory when said fleets are slaughtered.

I can't wait for someone to step up to your smug face and prove to the world your a phoney...its just a matter of time.

Oh and Jack...learn to pay attention...those blueprints you keep blabbing about with your garbage mouth...they belonged to the original owner and they where returned by myself personally to that owner.

But your too busy spraying bull#### all over the place in your butthurt for me fireing your stupid ass in the first place.

So since we're so busy hanging out our laundry here on the forums maybe you should take your own advice and learn to shut the hell up yourself and biomass your own toon while your at it as you call it.

You fail miserably...you talk like your the best....but your a phoney...your a fruad...and your a fake.
you know whats funny...is angry onions who echo's you at least has valid experince in 0.0 life and low sec.
You've had ltierally zero.

You spend all of your time can-baiting and can-flipping.....its a wonder half of the people around here aren't laughing at your fake ass.

You want to prove em wrong? Go spend a few months in 0.0 space and show me otherwise...lets see how long you last out there eh?

I went there...2 to 3 months worth...got people to prove it....left...why? Coulnd't hack it....not enough time to commit to the game and to pay attention to all the things they have to pay attention to.

I spent a couple months in WHS....did fine there...cant live there by myself and don't have time to maintain it.

Its called real life....a job....I have bills to pay....while your spouting crap and everything thinking your impregnible...someones gonna cut you down to size.

Your kills are noob ships and frigates bulk of the time....and your a terrible leader. Your answer to everything is get going or you pod them. You threaten them with brutality but you have no compassion for anything.

Yet you accuse me of being paranoid and tossing you out on your ass...how hyporcrtiical.

so please..get over yourself.

I never said I was a pvp'er..yet you insist no pointing out I suck at it...you know what jack..we know that..thank you for pointing it out.

Maybe you should take care of your life a little more and spend less time with your head burried in this game for a change.

You might actually learn something for once.

Everyone can see the writing on the wall...everyone sees your killboards and everyone knows whats REALLY going on.
You failed to learn that once..and you will fail once again.

So keep hurumphing and smacktalking me...you will get nothing....and you will continue to fail miserabily as you utterly have no imagination efforts to copy me. (Oh I found that out too)

You make claims that we're dead and hemorging funds....so far...its become quite obvious your throwing isk away faster than I ever thought possible.

Its publicly posted and quite obvious.

You say I dont undock...you say I dont do this don't do that...did it occur to you that I'm not niterested in playing the game your way like a total idiot without regard for tactics?

No...you don't think..thats right..you just kick people in the teeth and yell liek a 3 year old who doesn't get his way.

Please..go right on ahead....no ones going to stop you...and you'll just keep spraying your garbaging bossing me around and telling me to leave.

Get used to it Jack...im here to stay.

That goes for everyoen else in your little motley crew.

Get it through your thick skulls...i dont care...you where tossed out...rejected..refused...and trashed.
You can scream..you can whine...aint going no where.


This is no different than someone yelling at the goons.

Your just a buncho f babies....well keep crying. Your good at it after all.

Maybe its your purpose in life now....its all you do now.
Cry at me and complain....please by all means keep going.


And as to the arguments people keep spraying about tanking hulks and suicide gankings.

Keep talking like you know what your doing....you dont.

Just because you can EFT warriorize your "Stuff" doesn't maen it will matter worth a damn in-game.

Just try and go fly your hulks tanked up in gal space and tell me how it works out for you.

Talk like your pro suicide gankers and all dat.

It's funny...I don't see the goons throwing a fit...they are having a blast.

And snice your so busy pointing out I suck....I guess you should check to see the last time I lost a mining ship.

Oh...yeah...thats right...I havn't.

Once again your ignorance...and your aragonace...shine like a disgusting blemish on your faces.

You keep making threats...smacktalking...yet you do absoltuely nothing.
Except throw your members into the maws of foolishness and scream at them for being stupid.

Please Jack...stop lying for once....and maybe you live long enough to survive.