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Frying Doom
#181 - 2012-12-31 03:00:41 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22839477.jpg


Yeah good point, let's get this back on track and talk about the article whose two prime sources for information are Horus and someone logged into a guest account on IRC.

Someone else start though because lol


The best thing that could happen would be riverini taking that article down and CCP nuking this thread.

If they started doing that the next step is CCP demanding the removal of articles that cast them in a bad light and trashing those threads. The step after that is of course having to get written approval from CCP on any article as everything that occurs within the game is their property.

We have enough censorship on these forums now without comments like that.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#182 - 2012-12-31 03:01:22 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:

I'm curious how much the new AI slamed this type of bot

Not nearly hard enough.


To be fair, I think most mission bot users use shield missile ships and not drones. But CCP Arrow produced some nice tears.

Q-Bot User wrote:

"P.S. Window positions are broken AGAIN. Each player has to resize ship cargo window, primary inventory window and station items window to his preferred sizes again. For every account. When I think about botters who own dozens of accounts, it makes me mad. I wish every developer who has participated in this change, and was too lazy to save former window positions and sizes: next time they go to WC, do it SLOOOWLY, FOR A HOUR, DROP BY DROP! So might be they feel the pain of manual resizing of 72 windows after a patch for a hour..."


I did find some other interesting comments from when Retribution launched, but I know no one here is interested in bot tears.

The Nosy Gamer - CCP Random: "hehe, falls under the category: nice try, but no. ;)"

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#183 - 2012-12-31 03:02:20 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
anyone who questions the integrity of A PUPPETMASTER is clearly a goon psyops agent working hard to support their beloved allies, Tribal Band

~cover blown~

Are we even blue to Tribal Band?

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Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#184 - 2012-12-31 03:02:23 UTC
Peter the Hermit wrote:
Hello TEST?

Anyone there? HELLO?

HBC!?!! HELLO!?!!



I think they've called in the Goons yet again, judging by the activity in this thread.Blink
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#185 - 2012-12-31 03:02:45 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

If they started doing that the next step is CCP demanding the removal of articles that cast them in a bad light and trashing those threads. The step after that is of course having to get written approval from CCP on any article as everything that occurs within the game is their property.

We have enough censorship on these forums now without comments like that.


There is a very big difference between CCP taking down something that paints them in bad light and something that HELPS, yes HELPs, botters.

Please continue comparing apples to oranges, mr durian.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#186 - 2012-12-31 03:04:44 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
anyone who questions the integrity of A PUPPETMASTER is clearly a goon psyops agent working hard to support their beloved allies, Tribal Band

~cover blown~

Are we even blue to Tribal Band?


We have blued the blues and are blue to everything.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#187 - 2012-12-31 03:05:47 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

If they started doing that the next step is CCP demanding the removal of articles that cast them in a bad light and trashing those threads. The step after that is of course having to get written approval from CCP on any article as everything that occurs within the game is their property.

We have enough censorship on these forums now without comments like that.


There is a very big difference between CCP taking down something that paints them in bad light and something that HELPS, yes HELPs, botters.

Please continue comparing apples to oranges, mr durian.

Maybe the botters haven't read about it, then it isn't too late. But then again, maybe they should have that warning, I mean if they weren't reading EN24, surely they will learn about the warning system that is EN24

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#188 - 2012-12-31 03:05:59 UTC
riverini wrote:


I first broke the "core ****" to Sreegs early in December.

The tip was more or less like this:
- Check out Blood and Sands
- Gummi Worm ****
- TEST / PL might be involved.

Yet I promised him the full exposure after we were done with the article, we had sent the full logs past Wednesday.

Regarding CCP Sreegs telling us to that we should have waited for him to act might be too much for us. We gave him a heads up, we sent the logs on Dec 26th.

Keep in mind CCP Sreegs, while grateful of any help we could give him regarding EULA violations, he has always been clear that he nor CCP Games will not disclose any actions taken toward those infractors. So we could have waited 1 day, 1 week or 1 month and it wouldn't had made any difference for us given than there is no feedback from CCP if we should keep tabs on things or not.

I do disagree with CCP Sreegs saying that us "blowing the beans" would be a step back given that people would simply stop botting activity. If for him it is strictly necessary to caught the offenders "in blazing offence", then he should close shop and rethink his approach against botters.

R


You decided to inform them the day after Christmas day when a good deal of the staff are in holiday mode and gave them less than a week to investigate...

You do see how pants on head that move was right?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#189 - 2012-12-31 03:06:05 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
anyone who questions the integrity of A PUPPETMASTER is clearly a goon psyops agent working hard to support their beloved allies, Tribal Band

~cover blown~

Are we even blue to Tribal Band?


We have blued the blues and are blue to everything.

Blueballs.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#190 - 2012-12-31 03:06:56 UTC
Captain Death1 wrote:
when the cheaters are botters come to the forums and ask for nerf to high sec need to drop the ban hammer on them
this is why null not working they are the ones who rune eve they playing the game for free to boot


not even paying customers then they going to tell you how easy you have it in high sec

win eve = cheating


This has nothing to do with that topic.

Oh and by the way, the last time Sreegs gave us any figures, the highest density of bots was in Caldari hi-sec. Maybe we should apply your logic to L4s and hi-sec ice belts...? Blink

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#191 - 2012-12-31 03:10:27 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Maybe the botters haven't read about it, then it isn't too late. But then again, maybe they should have that warning, I mean if they weren't reading EN24, surely they will learn about the warning system that is EN24


I never thought of that perhaps that is riverini's intention en24 is supposed to be a bot early warning system. /speculation

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#192 - 2012-12-31 03:10:55 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Captain Death1 wrote:
when the cheaters are botters come to the forums and ask for nerf to high sec need to drop the ban hammer on them
this is why null not working they are the ones who rune eve they playing the game for free to boot


not even paying customers then they going to tell you how easy you have it in high sec

win eve = cheating


This has nothing to do with that topic.

Oh and by the way, the last time Sreegs gave us any figures, the highest density of bots was in Caldari hi-sec. Maybe we should apply your logic to L4s and hi-sec ice belts...? Blink

High sec ice bots, you say?

James 315 and the Agents would definitely be interested in news of bots (and bot-aspirants).

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#193 - 2012-12-31 03:11:35 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Maybe the botters haven't read about it, then it isn't too late. But then again, maybe they should have that warning, I mean if they weren't reading EN24, surely they will learn about the warning system that is EN24

I never thought of that perhaps that is riverini's intention en24 is supposed to be a bot early warning system. /speculation

Plausible deniability. "I was telling CCP, and then I was telling the world, it isn't MY fault the botters got away"

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2012-12-31 03:12:13 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Captain Death1 wrote:
when the cheaters are botters come to the forums and ask for nerf to high sec need to drop the ban hammer on them
this is why null not working they are the ones who rune eve they playing the game for free to boot


not even paying customers then they going to tell you how easy you have it in high sec

win eve = cheating


This has nothing to do with that topic.

Oh and by the way, the last time Sreegs gave us any figures, the highest density of bots was in Caldari hi-sec. Maybe we should apply your logic to L4s and hi-sec ice belts...? Blink


People love to ignore this fact. Instead its ~ebil nullsec slave owning bot supporting evil blue blobbers~.

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Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#195 - 2012-12-31 03:17:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
La Nariz wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Maybe the botters haven't read about it, then it isn't too late. But then again, maybe they should have that warning, I mean if they weren't reading EN24, surely they will learn about the warning system that is EN24


I never thought of that perhaps that is riverini's intention en24 is supposed to be a bot early warning system. /speculation


Attention: I have just recieved this anonymous information in my ~intel dropbox~

Quote:
[21:15] [Guest2734238] riverini is secretly using EN24 as an early warning system for bots.
[21:15] [Guest2734238] he gets kickbacks from all of the bot makers for doing it
[21:15] [Guest2734238] he also takes direct cash payment from Horus to point CCP away from his own botting


Man, this journalism thingy is way easier than I thought!

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#196 - 2012-12-31 03:17:39 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Captain Death1 wrote:
when the cheaters are botters come to the forums and ask for nerf to high sec need to drop the ban hammer on them
this is why null not working they are the ones who rune eve they playing the game for free to boot


not even paying customers then they going to tell you how easy you have it in high sec

win eve = cheating


This has nothing to do with that topic.

Oh and by the way, the last time Sreegs gave us any figures, the highest density of bots was in Caldari hi-sec. Maybe we should apply your logic to L4s and hi-sec ice belts...? Blink


People love to ignore this fact. Instead its ~ebil nullsec slave owning bot supporting evil blue blobbers~.

It's actually our ~highsec alts~, isn't it?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#197 - 2012-12-31 03:17:42 UTC
heh i love how everyone blatantly ignores the fact that EN24 previously published a botting guide

a shame that Riverini took it down when he was called out for it during his CSM run, oh wait http://www.scribd.com/doc/71692882/The-Rise-of-the-Machines-The-Practical-Guide-%E2%80%93-Primer

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#198 - 2012-12-31 03:20:46 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Maybe the botters haven't read about it, then it isn't too late. But then again, maybe they should have that warning, I mean if they weren't reading EN24, surely they will learn about the warning system that is EN24


I never thought of that perhaps that is riverini's intention en24 is supposed to be a bot early warning system. /speculation


Attention: I have just recieved this anonymous information in my ~intel dropbox~

Quote:
[21:15] [Guest2734238] riverini is secretly using EN24 as an early warning system for bots.
[21:15] [Guest2734238] he gets kickbacks from all of the bot makers for doing it
[21:15] [Guest2734238] he also takes direct cash payment from Horus to point CCP away from his own botting


Man, this journalism thingy is way easier than I thought!


Well there is a source now its no longer speculation. Shame on riverini.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#199 - 2012-12-31 03:21:17 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Maybe the botters haven't read about it, then it isn't too late. But then again, maybe they should have that warning, I mean if they weren't reading EN24, surely they will learn about the warning system that is EN24


I never thought of that perhaps that is riverini's intention en24 is supposed to be a bot early warning system. /speculation


Attention: I have just recieved this anonymous information in my ~intel dropbox~

Quote:
[21:15] [Guest2734238] riverini is secretly using EN24 as an early warning system for bots.
[21:15] [Guest2734238] he gets kickbacks from all of the bot makers for doing it
[21:15] [Guest2734238] he also takes direct cash payment from Horus to point CCP away from his own botting


Man, this journalism thingy is way easier than I thought!

I don't think EN24 will let you publish such dubious information.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#200 - 2012-12-31 03:21:43 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22839477.jpg


Yeah good point, let's get this back on track and talk about the article whose two prime sources for information are Horus and someone logged into a guest account on IRC.

Someone else start though because lol


The best thing that could happen would be riverini taking that article down and CCP nuking this thread.

If they started doing that the next step is CCP demanding the removal of articles that cast them in a bad light and trashing those threads. The step after that is of course having to get written approval from CCP on any article as everything that occurs within the game is their property.

We have enough censorship on these forums now without comments like that.


"Breaking News: Frying Doom, the star witness against the organised crime ring in his local community, has entered the witness protection program. Mr Doom, along with Mrs Doom and Frying Doom Junior, is now living under the name of Mr P. T. Samolean at 17, Wintergreen Avenue, Newtown."

NO CENSORSHIP EVAR AMIRITE?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016