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AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#1 - 2012-12-08 19:00:38 UTC
Dearest Devs,

I had sent in an e-mail to Mr. Coker, the CCP PR guy, looking for him to contact one of you in regards to three questions I had for a research paper I am writing based on emergent gameplay and how it can potentially affect the future of human interaction in virual realms. I'm starting to think he doesn't want to fulfil my request to ask of you, so I'll just ask as a member of the community, before the community: Pretty please? Answer my questions for my scholarly paper? I can be contacted through evemail, if nessicary.

Thank you in advance for your time, should you chose to answer me.

~Pardy!!~ :3
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#2 - 2012-12-13 03:52:05 UTC
I admire your dedication.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#3 - 2012-12-13 04:01:20 UTC
CCP InfoRequest would be my name if I were to work with CCP. I would have all sorts of lovely threads about me.

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Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-12-13 05:00:56 UTC
AstraPardus wrote:
Dearest Devs,

I had sent in an e-mail to Mr. Coker, the CCP PR guy, looking for him to contact one of you in regards to three questions I had for a research paper I am writing based on emergent gameplay and how it can potentially affect the future of human interaction in virual realms. I'm starting to think he doesn't want to fulfil my request to ask of you, so I'll just ask as a member of the community, before the community: Pretty please? Answer my questions for my scholarly paper? I can be contacted through evemail, if nessicary.

Thank you in advance for your time, should you chose to answer me.

~Pardy!!~ :3



I'm not sure if this will help, but by definition Emergent gameplay essentially is a game design term that refers to video game mechanics that change according to the player's actions (there are other definitions, but believe this is the one you're looking for). Hulkageddon, thousands of players join forces to suicide gank miners. The repercussions being as simple as some players not mining during this event, or logging off for that time period, or doing some other in-game profession during that event. The more complex being, the change of the market, the fluctuating of prices, players begin to number crunch to estimate the change of market values, victim players rage-quitting and so on. There are also a lot of blogs, articles, web-sites, threads/posts about such events and some go into great detail. Specific players can become well-known because of such player-made events through the amount of killsmails.

Hope that at least gives an idea. I tried to find one of the articles I read a few weeks ago that did some pretty intense number crunching, was going to link it here, but couldn't find it :(

Also, a quick google search will lead you to numerous sites about different instances of emergent gameplay in Eve. Hulkageddon was an example. You could go into more detail about how BoB fell, the repercussions it had, everyone involved in that war and so on.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2012-12-13 05:41:55 UTC
We love science and research round here especially if it results in lots of graphs.
Borascus
#6 - 2012-12-13 09:46:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Borascus
baltec1 wrote:
We love science and research round here especially if it results in lots of graphs.


Like this one


I think the OP is looking for a response from a Company that is utilising emergent gameplay systems, instead of trying to understand what emergent gameplay systems are.


It's the closest thing to work experience developers can get without fulfilling the Tuxford Hypotenuse
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#7 - 2012-12-13 14:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: AstraPardus
Capt Starfox wrote:
AstraPardus wrote:
Dearest Devs,

I had sent in an e-mail to Mr. Coker, the CCP PR guy, looking for him to contact one of you in regards to three questions I had for a research paper I am writing based on emergent gameplay and how it can potentially affect the future of human interaction in virual realms. I'm starting to think he doesn't want to fulfil my request to ask of you, so I'll just ask as a member of the community, before the community: Pretty please? Answer my questions for my scholarly paper? I can be contacted through evemail, if nessicary.

Thank you in advance for your time, should you chose to answer me.

~Pardy!!~ :3



I'm not sure if this will help, but by definition Emergent gameplay essentially is a game design term that refers to video game mechanics that change according to the player's actions (there are other definitions, but believe this is the one you're looking for). Hulkageddon, thousands of players join forces to suicide gank miners. The repercussions being as simple as some players not mining during this event, or logging off for that time period, or doing some other in-game profession during that event. The more complex being, the change of the market, the fluctuating of prices, players begin to number crunch to estimate the change of market values, victim players rage-quitting and so on. There are also a lot of blogs, articles, web-sites, threads/posts about such events and some go into great detail. Specific players can become well-known because of such player-made events through the amount of killsmails.

Hope that at least gives an idea. I tried to find one of the articles I read a few weeks ago that did some pretty intense number crunching, was going to link it here, but couldn't find it :(

Also, a quick google search will lead you to numerous sites about different instances of emergent gameplay in Eve. Hulkageddon was an example. You could go into more detail about how BoB fell, the repercussions it had, everyone involved in that war and so on.



Oh, yes. I am aware and have a wealth of good rescources already. I was hoping, however, to have three specific questions answered from a developer's perspective. I feel that these questions would add a very unique and insightful angle to my paper. One that I cannot provide otherwise, as I am not a developer.
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AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#8 - 2012-12-13 15:39:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We love science and research round here especially if it results in lots of graphs.


Oh, there will be a good deal of those, I have to do a Power Point presentation to go with the paper. =e__e=
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AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#9 - 2012-12-13 15:41:20 UTC
Borascus wrote:


I think the OP is looking for a response from a Company that is utilising emergent gameplay systems, instead of trying to understand what emergent gameplay systems are.



This guy knows where I'm coming from! :3
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AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#10 - 2012-12-30 14:32:32 UTC
Last-attempt-before-due-date-bump. \o/
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Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#11 - 2012-12-30 14:35:26 UTC
AstraPardus wrote:
Dearest Devs,

I had sent in an e-mail to Mr. Coker, the CCP PR guy, looking for him to contact one of you in regards to three questions I had for a research paper I am writing based on emergent gameplay and how it can potentially affect the future of human interaction in virual realms. I'm starting to think he doesn't want to fulfil my request to ask of you, so I'll just ask as a member of the community, before the community: Pretty please? Answer my questions for my scholarly paper? I can be contacted through evemail, if nessicary.

Thank you in advance for your time, should you chose to answer me.

~Pardy!!~ :3


So enlighten us and cause us to reflect and ponder upon your 3 questions.

What are they?
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#12 - 2012-12-30 14:51:55 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
AstraPardus wrote:
Dearest Devs,

I had sent in an e-mail to Mr. Coker, the CCP PR guy, looking for him to contact one of you in regards to three questions I had for a research paper I am writing based on emergent gameplay and how it can potentially affect the future of human interaction in virual realms. I'm starting to think he doesn't want to fulfil my request to ask of you, so I'll just ask as a member of the community, before the community: Pretty please? Answer my questions for my scholarly paper? I can be contacted through evemail, if nessicary.

Thank you in advance for your time, should you chose to answer me.

~Pardy!!~ :3


So enlighten us and cause us to reflect and ponder upon your 3 questions.

What are they?


Since you asked so nicely, good sir:

1) What do you think, from a developer's perspective, are the factors that have contributed to the success of EVE Online as a game in which emergent gameplay is used?

2) What do you think, from a developer's perspective, is the potential of this kind of interaction for people in future digital realms?

3) Do you see this type of interaction going beyond gaming in the future?

Those are my three questions for a CCP dev that I would like insight on for my scholarly paper on the matter of emergent gameplay and it's potential. What do you, the community, think of this matter?
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#13 - 2012-12-30 16:37:23 UTC
Hi,

I've removed a couple of trolling posts and moved this thread to the correct location on the forums.

I'll email my seniors at CCP to make sure they know about your thread, but you probably want to be a little patient as a lot of people have leave at this time of year.

In the mean time, good luck with your search for answers!

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#14 - 2012-12-30 16:39:36 UTC  |  Edited by: AstraPardus
ISD Suvetar wrote:
Hi,

I've removed a couple of trolling posts and moved this thread to the correct location on the forums.

I'll email my seniors at CCP to make sure they know about your thread, but you probably want to be a little patient as a lot of people have leave at this time of year.

In the mean time, good luck with your search for answers!


Thank you very much, ISD Survetar. I appreciate it, greatly! :3
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2012-12-30 16:42:13 UTC
Submit a petition under 'Other Issues', 'Forums' for the attention of CCP Xhagen and we will get in touch with you. As Suvetar has stated, it is the holiday time wo you may not get a reply until Wednesday of next week but we will reply Smile
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#16 - 2012-12-30 16:44:20 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Submit a petition under 'Other Issues', 'Forums' for the attention of CCP Xhagen and we will get in touch with you. As Suvetar has stated, it is the holiday time wo you may not get a reply until Wednesday of next week but we will reply Smile


Excellent, I hadn't thought to try a petition, I didn't think that would be suitable. I will give that a go, however! Thank you CCP Navigator! :3
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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#17 - 2012-12-31 18:33:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We love science and research round here especially if it results in lots of graphs.



baltec ...you should know bloody better mate this graph is the only one you will ever need foe eve-online .

nuff said Bear
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#18 - 2012-12-31 18:38:43 UTC
jason hill wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We love science and research round here especially if it results in lots of graphs.



baltec ...you should know bloody better mate this graph is the only one you will ever need foe eve-online .

nuff said Bear


I think I'll have to put that in the Power Point. XD
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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-12-31 19:13:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
Maybe this Gamasutra article could be helpful? EVE Online and the meaning of 'sandbox' Gamasutra's articles are by "theorists" inside the game industry, so they're the real thing, not thoughts from the players peanut gallery. Check out the game designers comments to the article on EVE-- pretty interesting stuff. With some searching, you might find some good theory/discussion on emergent gameplay in Gamasutra.
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#20 - 2012-12-31 19:24:50 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
Maybe this Gamasutra article could be helpful? EVE Online and the meaning of 'sandbox' Gamasutra's articles are by "theorists" inside the game industry, so they're the real thing, not thoughts from the players peanut gallery. Check out the game designers comments to the article on EVE-- pretty interesting stuff. With some searching, you might find some good theory/discussion on emergent gameplay in Gamasutra.


That looks like it will be a very good rescource! Thank you, Telegram Sam! I'll have to add that to my list of references and pour over it for good info. :3
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