Warfare & Tactics

Sov war was a joke before CCP started toying with it and it's a bigger joke now. The difference is, now you are forced into playing Sov War if you stay in FW. Did you ever consider that the reason I rarely log on, is because FW was largely the only thing that interested me in this game until CCP decided to fix it, by turning it into even a worse version of null sec.

This sounds like so many of the nullsec rants that losing alliances make.

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I was out of game at that point, but I've heard repeatedly that Cal Militia guys didn't know of the change, until it happened. Honestly don't yea think if they knew in advance that they would have taken the systems or at least as many as possible?[/quote]

Even after the flip all those systems were vulnerable for like 3 days because they were all so far into vuln.. but we didn't flip one system. Cal mil is an unorganized group that doesn't trust each other and trolls each other more then working together.

Which is why I left I have to thank gal for making the short comings glaringly obvious in cal mil and making people in cal mil show their true colors. I'm hoping I can find a corp that is organized, coordinated and works together whether it be in one of the other fw's or with some other corp.

I also wish you would leave the amarr warzone alone the amarrians are just getting on their feet and looks like they are having fairly equal and fun fights. If your campaign has proved anything it's that fw is not broken. You guys didn't win because of game mechanics or the plex system. You won because you were more organized and worked together. While we bickered, in fought and trolled eachother. We couldn't make any kind of adequate defense and you took raka in 2.5 days.

Impressive feat guys and my hats off to you I hope i can find pilots who fly the way you do. This game is gun and I can't imagine how fun it is when you play with people that work together and are organized.. Other then dce guys, 2 years in cal mil has only shown me the opposite of this.

Either way most of you guys are respectable and after this ordeal I have more respect for the gal mil and the way they handle themselves then I do for the cal mil. Hopefully that changes because until the general attitude of cal mil changes it will always suck to be a part of.

Reading the forum is making my head explode and making Faction Warfare appear very trivial and unbalanced.
Personally, I would like to join the Caldari Militia and fight for my nation, though that does not come across as being a good idea.

Now these may be a bold questions, but is everyone as bad as each other?
Do players seek to change faction and dominate on one particular side, just to make profit?


All of this is very off putting for me.

I would say join the Amarr Militia if you are put off by the Caldari Militia (they are allied). Then you maybe able to get into a corp that can work with others and gain experience in FW. There is nothing stopping you then joining Caldari at a later date and even starting your own Caldari corp if you so feel.

Ok. I'm curious. What is in a Caldari toon's bio that would result in the current mindset with Caldari militia?

When I started with EVE, I was on an evil vibe so I made an Amarr char. But then I said this is bullshit, that I want to have something I can relate with. I'm no religious slaver nutjob! Then I saw the video of Yakia Tovil-Toba (or whatever his name is) suiciding a carrier into Hueromont full of innocent people and being glorified by the State, few Caldari posters, then some stuff about Gallente democracy and capitalism. I decided that I'm no whiny regime lackey IRL, so I could not relate in game. On the other hand, these frogs are my kind of people.

No wonder Caldari are what they are. This fascist state must attract people who like to hide behind masses, act glorious when winning and being pathetic when losing. Just like similar regimes in our actual history.

Also, like those similar regimes, they have brilliant/decent individuals who are not powerful enough to steer the mob.

Mutnin I'll try to correct some of your assumptions and whatever hearsay you've heard.

The Caldari WERE perpared for the changes. However, the ninja changes to the loyalty points store wasn't foreseen.

The State, just lost.

Recently I suggested the effort to take Nennamaila was a worthy cause. Well! The sh!t THAT effort started rolled down hill and became an avalanche.

While, I thought it was a cause worthy of a warrior. I made it known many times before that decision. If the intent was to "win", thereby printing isk and or hold Caldari factional warfare as is and or make it better. Then starting a sovereignty style war with the Gallente milltia is a bad idea. But! I also said 'I could be wrong' v0v

Side Note: while, I was there. The States strength and 90% of all active combat pilots were within 5 large entities. Of those, 3 entities were working closely together. The State may have had more pilots, but most of them weren't combat pilots.

With that said.

From the outset. The States effort was SUCCESSFUL and farming the HELL out of the Federation. Regularly forming large fleets and ganking left, right, up, down and center.

I would think or atleast I thought most leaders knew the difference, in terms of strength between militias. I mean, for each of our strongest entities. There are 2 to 3 Federation entities who were as strong individually. After awhile, it was clear most of State leaders were ignorant of that fact or ignored it.

Now.

I doubt many Federation entities cared whether or not the Caldari were working together for a common purpose. Infact, I know most of them didn't care. However, some Federation entities were suffering massive losses regularly and started to organize.

Once that happened it was OVER. Cause and effect.

An organized Cause to displace entites from thier home, inflicting massive losses and sh!t talking in local was a catalyst and made things personal. The effect is what we have now. The organized effort to displace Caldari from thier homes, territorial control and to engage a common and annoying foe.

Close to the end. The Gallente were fielding as much or more fleets in terms of numbers, comparatively. The tables turned. Now, the State was being blobed and ganked by WAY more experienced pilots and better fleet commanders regularly.

Might I add. There were and still are some gallente entities that haven't contributed MUCH to the effort at all.

OFC I'm leaving out one of the biggest drivers of the conflict. Loyalty points (isk) and short term thinking.

Isk was the chief culprit behind most if not all decisions made. If the Caldari just kept the status quo and individual entities focused on improving themselves. In 1 - 3 years our milltia may have had enough strength to match the Federation.

I mean, think about it. The Caldari made so much isk and lost it all within a month.

Anyway. Like I said. It was an amazing effort and would have worked if we had more experienced pilots, corporations, alliances, fleet commanders and leaders. The Caldari tried to run before they learn't to walk.

The sad thing is. Caldari leaders haven't learned anything from the experience and are near delusional. Mutnin, you've been relaying thier delusional view points. I listened to these delusionals while they were "winning" and when things started to turn and when they started "losing".

Most of them haven't even benifited from the whole thing. Think about that! The ones that organized the loyalty point dumps and territorial efforts are broke or have become defunct. There are some exceptions; Happy Endings and Black Rise guerilla force are stronger and more effective than they were 4 - 6 months ago.

When I think back to the whole thing. ROFL

A lot of us were even training gank t3's to put into Caldari militia and flip bunkers so we could take them back before the patch. We were ready for the worst case scenario.

If you watched the vid I posted earlier, one of my favorite moments is our fc yelling " F it, we'll whelp the whole fleet as long as we kill more of them" And everyone in fleet (fleet being several corps and alliances working together) said ok, lets keep rolling. End result, after a full hour of fighting we held the field, and they lost an ungodly number of ships.