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Is Caldari Prime Still Occupied?

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Jacob D'Argo
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-11 17:51:20 UTC
Or have the Gallente gotten off their *** and done something about it?
Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-12-11 17:59:24 UTC
I believe Tibus Heth freed it, but I'm not completely sure.

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neo smith
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-11 18:54:55 UTC  |  Edited by: neo smith
it still in the hands of the caldari afaik "shakes fist at tibus"

tho tibus has just been shot so things may change Big smile
Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#4 - 2012-12-11 20:35:23 UTC
Jacob D'Argo wrote:
Is Caldari Prime Still Occupied?

No, the Caldari freed it from Federal occupation some time ago now Blink
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#5 - 2012-12-12 01:23:02 UTC
Bataav wrote:
Jacob D'Argo wrote:
Is Caldari Prime Still Occupied?

No, the Caldari freed it from Federal occupation some time ago now Blink


This.

Pretty sure you can't 'occupy' a world that belongs to you anyway. Blink

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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#6 - 2012-12-14 02:47:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
Hell no, we freed that sh**! Also, the phoenix class dreadnoughts in orbit still have their cross-hairs trained on the ghettos the putrid Gallente population inhabit, in case Jacus gets jumpy.

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#7 - 2012-12-15 00:13:24 UTC
Jacob D'Argo wrote:
Or have the Gallente gotten off their *** and done something about it?

No, Comrade Heth liberated our Homeworld from the decadent Gallente forces PirateTwisted

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Dheeradj Nurgle
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-12-16 00:48:59 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Hell no, we freed that sh**! Also, the phoenix class dreadnoughts in orbit still have their cross-hairs trained on the ghettos the putrid Gallente population inhabit, in case Jacus gets jumpy.



Not to mention that fearsome Leviathan.

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-16 04:28:27 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Hell no, we freed that sh**! Also, the phoenix class dreadnoughts in orbit still have their cross-hairs trained on the ghettos the putrid Gallente population inhabit, in case Jacus gets jumpy.



Not to mention that fearsome Leviathan.

Shield Capitals, Best Capitals.


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Erebus used Blasters. It's super effective.

Leviathan used explosion velocity. Attack Missed.

Erebus used Blasters. It's super effective.

Leviathan used explosion velocity. Attack Missed.

Erebus used Blasters. It's super effective.

Leviathan died.

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Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#10 - 2012-12-16 12:10:11 UTC

Yes, Caldari Prime is still occupied by Heth's Forces and a Caldari Navy Levithan is poised to vapourise the population if the Fed Navy attempts to intervene.

An OOC comparison might be to question New Yorkers right to occupy the original York or Ireland on the basis that is were their ancestors were born.



Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#11 - 2012-12-29 19:22:05 UTC
In the year, 110.06.10, I was only one of thousands who helped maintain the blockade in Luminari Space and the regaining control of Caldari Prime.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2012-12-29 19:54:04 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
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FTFY

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Ramius Decimus
Daitengu Fleet
#13 - 2013-01-08 20:15:24 UTC
Caldari Prime is our birthright and shall always remain so. State Executor Heth has freed our fatherland from the Gallente occupation with the best of our glorious Navy and it will remain back in our possession lest the Federation's president wants the battlefield to extent to their own doorstep.

For now it's an island of purity in the middle of a corrupt ocean. Unfortunately many Gallenteans are stuck on Caldari Prime but now they can face the same indignity that our people had suffered on their own homeworld for well over a century.

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CCP Falcon
#14 - 2013-01-09 11:41:12 UTC

Caldari Prime is still very much under the military control of the Caldari State.

Most Gallente either had the sense to evacuate, have been detained, or are under heavy restriction of movement and draconian curfew.

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Kamora Ikkala
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-01-09 13:06:52 UTC
No the caldari liberated it
Mund Richard
#16 - 2013-01-09 16:18:45 UTC
Occupied still, with their forces in the heart of the Federation, looming over the Gallente population on Caldari prime, and threatening every other planet within range, should things... go wrong.

"We want PvE activities to require active participation and mirror PvP more closely." Stacking penalty for NPC EWAR then? Lock range under 9km from over 100 in a BS is not fun. Nor is two NPC web drones making me crawl 10m/s. PvP SW-900 x5: 75m/s.

Eliniale
Co-operative Resource Extraction
#17 - 2013-01-10 17:12:23 UTC
Wyke Mossari wrote:

Yes, Caldari Prime is still occupied by Heth's Forces and a Caldari Navy Levithan is poised to vapourise the population if the Fed Navy attempts to intervene.

An OOC comparison might be to question New Yorkers right to occupy the original York or Ireland on the basis that is were their ancestors were born.





Yea nuking your own forces, because that seems like a good idea.

Going OOC here:

Guys, the occupation doesn't quite hold sense for quite a number of reasons

A. It's a logistical nightmare for the state to get troops and ships to Luminaire, as there's syno jammers up, and the state can't simply move military vessels trough gallente space. (I would accept troop shipments on neutral transports, but that's about it). And seeing as the caldari escorts get blown up every other day, i do wonder what clowncar they pull the replacements out of.

And even if somehow the ships would get there, can you imagine the costs of that venture?

B. If the fed navy were to get its titans and caps deployed on the leviathans ass, it kinda would die in the first round of fire, likely without even firing at the planet, as they've got their own forces down there. Again holding your own forces at gunpoint, not the brightest idea ever.

So for the love of god CCP, make this make sense (or better yet get mercs to fights on the planet, and fleets to kill that titan)

System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread

Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#18 - 2013-01-10 17:57:43 UTC
From what I understood, the Caldari and Gallentee when signing the ceasefire agreed to essentially an antebellum style of peace where each side kept what they had with the Caldari loosing only Caldari Prime. Now, unless Caldari Prime was separated by Gallentee space from the rest of its holding from the get go(I doubt that and it makes even less sense than it does now) then wouldn't it mean that its connected to the rest of Caldari Space in the first place?

I've never been to Caldari Prime so I don't know if you pass from Caldari space to Federation space and then back to Caldari space to get there.

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Eliniale
Co-operative Resource Extraction
#19 - 2013-01-10 18:37:55 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
From what I understood, the Caldari and Gallentee when signing the ceasefire agreed to essentially an antebellum style of peace where each side kept what they had with the Caldari loosing only Caldari Prime. Now, unless Caldari Prime was separated by Gallentee space from the rest of its holding from the get go(I doubt that and it makes even less sense than it does now) then wouldn't it mean that its connected to the rest of Caldari Space in the first place?

I've never been to Caldari Prime so I don't know if you pass from Caldari space to Federation space and then back to Caldari space to get there.


Luminaire is in fact surrounded by gallente space, so yes you need to fly trough gal fed space to get there.

System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread

Mund Richard
#20 - 2013-01-10 21:10:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Mund Richard
Simon Louvaki wrote:
From what I understood, the Caldari and Gallentee when signing the ceasefire agreed to essentially an antebellum style of peace where each side kept what they had with the Caldari loosing only Caldari Prime. Now, unless Caldari Prime was separated by Gallentee space from the rest of its holding from the get go(I doubt that and it makes even less sense than it does now) then wouldn't it mean that its connected to the rest of Caldari Space in the first place?

I've never been to Caldari Prime so I don't know if you pass from Caldari space to Federation space and then back to Caldari space to get there.

The Gallente and Caldari come from the same Sol sys.
Gallente Prime (or Luminaire) is in the heart of The Federation obviously.

Hence (while Villore is the capital of The Federation) a Caldari Titan's presence isn't quite appreciated by the Gallente, and while a logistical nightmare for the Caldari, for propaganda and negotiations however, a trump card.

"We want PvE activities to require active participation and mirror PvP more closely." Stacking penalty for NPC EWAR then? Lock range under 9km from over 100 in a BS is not fun. Nor is two NPC web drones making me crawl 10m/s. PvP SW-900 x5: 75m/s.

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