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Blueprints.....a run down

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Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-12-29 17:12:03 UTC
Hello guys, now i know the stuff i have asked so far have been basic, however i can not get my head around blueprints so i need your help once more.

I have a caldari shuttle blueprint. I know it is useless but i want to produce some since they are easy. Now i bought a blueprint off the market, but from my understanding you can not use it forever. but it gives you the option to copy it, but the lab that i used did not do it.

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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#2 - 2012-12-29 17:22:19 UTC
If you definitely bought it off the market and not from contracts, that blueprint is an original and will last forever.

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-29 17:24:34 UTC
If you bought it off the market, that's a blueprint original (BPO) and it lasts forever. An original can be researched (material efficiency and production efficiency) and copied. You're likely to find very long lines for ME and copying in highsec.

You don't need to copy the BPO unless you want to sell the copies (on contract), you can just manufacture from the BPO. You should do some ME research on it before you start making any of the shuttles, or you're likely to take a loss on making and selling them
Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-29 17:40:21 UTC
Yeah i bought it on the marketplace. What do you use the contracts for? is it just signing blueprints over

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Merouk Baas
#5 - 2012-12-29 17:49:01 UTC
Once you research that blueprint to improve ME or PE, you can't sell it on the market anymore. Also, if you make copies from it, you can't sell the copies on the market.

Contracts are for selling researched blueprint originals, and blueprint copies.

People can get blueprint copies for T2 items from the invention system. They'll have pretty bad ME or PE stats, but it's the only copies they can get. The T2 item market depends on a healthy trade in BP copies.
Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-12-29 17:52:22 UTC
Ok i get it i think, is there much of a market for shuttles?

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Merouk Baas
#7 - 2012-12-29 18:00:28 UTC
Sure there is; they used to be sold by the NPCs in each station but a few years ago player production has taken over (with CCP turning off NPC sales).

You just have to find stations that don't have a shuttle yet. Instead of producing a LOT and trying to sell in bulk at a trade hub, you can spread out stacks of a few shuttles to as many stations as you find that don't have any. People will pay 20-50k per shuttle, if you're the only one there, which is more than it'll cost you to make them.
Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-12-29 18:02:44 UTC
Thanks, silly question, what are a shuttles uses? why buy them? might see if can convince corporations to buy them off us

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-12-29 18:12:21 UTC
Jake Blakeway wrote:
Thanks, silly question, what are a shuttles uses? why buy them? might see if can convince corporations to buy them off us


Only 1 use for a shuttle: To shuttle you to another place while providing a slightly bit more protection then when just using your Pod. But then again, you might as well pick a frigate and fit it for propulsion and you will be faster.

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Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-12-29 18:14:27 UTC
i think starting my own corporation was a stupid Idea, i think i need to join someone else hahaha.

Anyway enough of my stropping. Shuttles are quite cheap to produce. Is there a way to sell items directly to a person rather than going through the marketplace?

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Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#11 - 2012-12-29 18:19:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Randolph Rothstein
http://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=672

selling at jita is probably your best bet,shuttles are kinda useless,i either use frigate or just capsule in high sec,i personaly wouldnt go into that market

for starters drones and ammo are better volumes
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-12-29 18:35:54 UTC
Jake Blakeway wrote:
i think starting my own corporation was a stupid Idea, i think i need to join someone else hahaha.

Anyway enough of my stropping. Shuttles are quite cheap to produce. Is there a way to sell items directly to a person rather than going through the marketplace?


The marketplace = selling to other persons.

Direct selling to anybody = Trade window or private contracts.

And yes, new players are better of in other corporations where people can assist/help them then in their own private 1 man army corps and don't have people to interact with and learn stuff from.

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Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#13 - 2012-12-29 18:37:42 UTC
Here is a link to a video series called Eve Online Research & Lab Tutorial, Parts 1-4, made by AndrewTheRed1, which explains the basics of blueprints and research:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG7C5679YrI&feature=share&list=PLD4039F65A12E8128

He has a related video series on Market & Industry which begins with a detailed discussion of blueprints and manufacturing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnzqRJuXL7A&feature=share&list=PLD4039F65A12E8128
Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-12-29 18:41:37 UTC
i did not even know there was a private selling facility, never seen it before

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-29 19:29:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Jake Blakeway wrote:
i did not even know there was a private selling facility, never seen it before


Just about no one uses the direct trade due to scamming.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-12-29 22:58:16 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Jake Blakeway wrote:
i did not even know there was a private selling facility, never seen it before


Just about no one uses the direct trade due to scamming.


This.

The only time you should use the trade window:

When giving stuff to your alts.
When you are scamming others.

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Jake Blakeway
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-12-29 23:14:38 UTC
Is it better to set up private contracts or maybe even public ones then. I am going to be speaking to a few corporations and see if can convince them shuttles are the new space ferrai's xD

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-12-30 00:19:45 UTC
Jake Blakeway wrote:
Is it better to set up private contracts or maybe even public ones then.


Not for stuff that's sold on the market. If someone wants a shuttle, they'll look on the market, not on contracts.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-12-30 01:01:20 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Jake Blakeway wrote:
Is it better to set up private contracts or maybe even public ones then. I am going to be speaking to a few corporations and see if can convince them shuttles are the new space ferrai's xD


Why would anybody want to buy shuttles from you when they are easily obtained from the market at a low cost.

If you want to supply direct to a buyer:

* Build on request (pull system - start production once order is in).
* Build on supply (push system - build and sell stock, more competition and more research needed on what to build/sell).

With the 2nd one I mean, if you know certain alliances use < Insert shipname here > with < insert modules for the fit here > you can look what market prices would cost them, look what your production would cost you and maybe contact them with a nice deal (above your production cost but below what normal market would cost them), keep in mind that this also can involve T2 production and large quantities.

Also:

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Equus Toomp
Do You Wanna Be In My Gang
#20 - 2012-12-30 05:25:42 UTC
Jake Blakeway wrote:
what are a shuttles uses? why buy them?


Shuttles are about the fastest way to autopilot from A to B especially if you need to transport small items.
It's all I use em for. Blink
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