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Tengu fit for solo c3 wh sites
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Hinus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-27 21:13:33 UTC
I was just looking to see if somebody would be able to post a few setup's for doing solo sites in c3 wh space.
Thanks
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-12-27 21:58:59 UTC
Couple here, the first is a fairly bare-bones tank (only 550 EHP/s rating, plenty for the C3 sites, but will easily die if you get jumped, 667 mil price tag or so). You'll notice it has a lot of leftover Powergrid; you can use that space to upgrade to a larger shield booster if you like (or faction x-large) and maintain much of your cap stability and gain a lot of tank.

The Second fit is a WH c4 fit that is just enough tank for all the sites in a C4, so will be crazy way more than you would need for a C3 or under (rating of just under 1200 EHP/s, 61% cap stability, 2 bil price tag).

[Tengu, WH C3 and under]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Booster II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor



[Tengu, WH c4 solo slim]

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Cap Recharger II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor



Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Zoltan Lazar
#3 - 2012-12-27 22:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Zoltan Lazar
Quote:
[Tengu, Proper L4 Tengu]

Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Gistum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster
Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Pith B-Type EM Ward Field
Pith B-Type EM Ward Field

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node


70km 673 DPS with Fury Kin, 539 with Fury EM. Do the math yourself which is better for resists.

No TP because the rigs mean you hit cruisers just fine, and frigs represent a low enough HP amount (and TP affects them so little) it's not needed.

550 EHP/s tank, plenty for almost any site. 689 m/s.

Costs 1.8b as above, but only ~1b if you downgrade things. (AB, EM wards, 1 BCU -> T2, shield boosters -> b-type) You lose 150 EHP/s tank, a bit of DPS and 50m/s, but it's half the cost.


That's what I would use. In C3s (and especially C2s and C1s) the fit Svod posted would have almost no damage application against cruisers and frigs. Most chose to use a TP to help apply their DPS, I find that the cycle time of TPs is annoying so I opt for using rigs to fix that. As well, 6 launchers + 4 BCUs gives a lot more DPS than 5 launchers and 3 BCUs.
Spheranzinne
Color of Violence
#4 - 2012-12-28 00:10:04 UTC
Things get a lot cheaper if you have a boosting alt char. Tank doubles with a perfect boost.
Zoltan Lazar
#5 - 2012-12-28 00:39:40 UTC
Unless you have a serious issue with full dualboxing, you're better off running two tengus than one tengu + booster.

If you're having issues, you can also pay 6m/hour to use blue pills.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-28 04:46:09 UTC
The two fits I posted are confirmed not as effective as the one zoltan posted (both were 5 launcher I believe).

Swap in caldari navy missiles for frigates.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Hinus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-28 11:08:23 UTC
Thanks for the fits, look perfect for me! Big smile
Flay Geobukseon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-12-29 02:15:17 UTC
I don't think you're going to run a rep for very long on a tengu that has low cap regen.

That said I'm not familiar with neuting amounts in C3s. It seems the database dump doesn't specify those. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_ships.php?supergroup=23&return_to=

But I've never used a solo tengu in C3 sites; maybe the neuting is irrelevant with enough dps.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-29 02:17:28 UTC
Flay Geobukseon wrote:
I don't think you're going to run a rep for very long on a tengu that has low cap regen.

That said I'm not familiar with neuting amounts in C3s. It seems the database dump doesn't specify those. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_ships.php?supergroup=23&return_to=

But I've never used a solo tengu in C3 sites; maybe the neuting is irrelevant with enough dps.


You want higher than minimum cap stability, 41-59% range.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-12-29 05:08:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolvun
Svodola Darkfury wrote:
Flay Geobukseon wrote:
I don't think you're going to run a rep for very long on a tengu that has low cap regen.

That said I'm not familiar with neuting amounts in C3s. It seems the database dump doesn't specify those. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_ships.php?supergroup=23&return_to=

But I've never used a solo tengu in C3 sites; maybe the neuting is irrelevant with enough dps.


You want higher than minimum cap stability, 41-59% range.



Well to be accurate the nueting in C3 sites is very light and a cap stable fit around the 20% mark is more than enough to solo with, well it's enough unless you encounter more than just the sleepers.

TBH C3 fits only need a large T2 booster, T2 boost amp, booster sub bonus, and T2 fit the rest and you can solo all sites bar the mag and radar with the scram last wave, there really isn't anything special needed for them.