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I wonder where these 'conspiracy theory' types come from?
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Cyrvys en Distel
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-12-27 19:02:03 UTC
Although this will most likely start some sort of flame war, that isn't my intention, really.

Anyways, I wonder why everytime there is some major group, everyone assumes CCP is in some sort of secret alliance with them? I hear alot more these days about CCP-Goon, back in the day it was CCP-BoB, sometimes seemingly founded, sometimes seemingly not. But why does everyone assume any Alliance or Group doing good and going strong must be in collusion with CCP, like some sort of Illuminati conspiracy? Is it just nature to assume that someone doing good must be getting help from on-high?
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-12-27 19:02:41 UTC
Conspiracies exist because they are true, obviously.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#3 - 2012-12-27 19:03:15 UTC
from conspiracy theorists

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#4 - 2012-12-27 19:03:22 UTC
9/11 has an insect job.

The Tears Must Flow
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-12-27 19:06:29 UTC
Because it's so much easier than to admit that they've been beaten by those n00bs — because that could obviously never happen without dev intervention.
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#6 - 2012-12-27 19:07:43 UTC
because it happened in the past,in one MMORPG i played

if its true for eve i dont know,wouldnt surprise me tho because power corrupts Blink
Jenavee De'amore
New LIfe corp
#7 - 2012-12-27 19:08:09 UTC
Most (if not all) conspiracy theorists have no concrete basis to found their claims, but to give them some credit can be hilarious to read in the forums :)
Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-12-27 19:20:07 UTC
It is partially because of a developer misconduct back in the day that actually benefited BOB. That was pretty much internally sorted out by CCP and I doubt its going to happen again. However like some others have stated its alot easier to think that CCP is helping the current most successful alliance than to admit your alliance sucks. Other than that...people are drawn to the unknown and murky. Look how many RL conspiracy theories there are from Abraham Lincoln to the Bohemian Grove. You can't expect them to be any diffrent in a MMO...
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-12-27 19:25:44 UTC
You only care because you feel there's some truth to it.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#10 - 2012-12-27 19:33:51 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Because it's so much easier than to admit that they've been beaten by those n00bs — because that could obviously never happen without dev intervention.

We're skillless noobs who only win by blobbing titans.

And drakes

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Miri Amatonur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-12-27 19:39:46 UTC
Well some employees of CCP come from the game and large alliances.

There has been the case of t20 and BoB.

Some basic information about their "internal security" can be found here:
old EVE forum
Abu Shahid
Gangnam Style.
#12 - 2012-12-27 19:46:15 UTC
I'm pretty sure that Devs care more about their jobs (which feed their families) than helping people win at internet spaceships.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#13 - 2012-12-27 19:49:53 UTC
Cyrvys en Distel wrote:
Although this will most likely start some sort of flame war, that isn't my intention, really.

Anyways, I wonder why everytime there is some major group, everyone assumes CCP is in some sort of secret alliance with them? I hear alot more these days about CCP-Goon, back in the day it was CCP-BoB, sometimes seemingly founded, sometimes seemingly not. But why does everyone assume any Alliance or Group doing good and going strong must be in collusion with CCP, like some sort of Illuminati conspiracy? Is it just nature to assume that someone doing good must be getting help from on-high?



From their mammas of course. Do I need to spell out about the birds and the bees?
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#14 - 2012-12-27 20:02:19 UTC
I think you are confusing the meaning of good. What you really mean is being successful.

It's a conspiracy because in the past it has been proven true. It doesn't mean it is happening now, but people will bring it up because it has precedent. It's also a way of poking at the big guys; and likely not with any real belief that it is happening.

Either way, it is a possibility, though a limited one. What is really happening is more likely that players in these big groups are manipulating the Devs into doing things in their favor through feedback and suggestions. This happens all the time, although I think much of it doesn't get through.

The stuff that isn't predicted as an outcome of a particular change that seems favorable to game play will likely happen, but often I think some of these 'big guys' will do thing in favor of other groups without realizing it, or possibly even intentionally. It has happened a few times in the past couple years. Not to say they don't also potentially benefit from it.

Thing is, speculation always leads to conspiracy theory, and all we can do is speculate. ..I've gotten something like 12 likes while writing this reply; that seems very odd to me. Who is Fluffy Dice? Lol
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2012-12-27 20:03:59 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
What is really happening is more likely that players in these big groups are manipulating the Devs into doing things in their favor through feedback and suggestions. This happens all the time, although I think much of it doesn't get through.

Yeah next we'll work on the freighters. After the mining barge/exhumer EHP buffs, anything is possible !

Mars Theran wrote:
I've gotten something like 12 likes while writing this reply; that seems very odd to me. Who is Fluffy Dice? Lol

Probably a script to like everyone, like Destination Skillqueue was using.

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Ginger Barbarella
#16 - 2012-12-27 20:06:45 UTC
Cyrvys en Distel wrote:
I wonder where these 'conspiracy theory' types come from?


Why, what have you heard?!!?! Ugh

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Atticus Lowa
Lowa Corp Industries and Security
#17 - 2012-12-27 20:09:33 UTC
yeh like how ccp secretly controls the Icelandic government, totally not fake.
explains how they are able to get away with shooting police cruisers, and have connections with Santa... how else did he get a corax? /sarcasm
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-12-27 20:12:40 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Cyrvys en Distel wrote:
I wonder where these 'conspiracy theory' types come from?


Why, what have you heard?!!?! Ugh


You see, teh gewns want to put all PVE players and hi seccers into concentration / re-education camps called "Gooncademy". BoB was actually a secret shadow alliance of teh gewnz and was a sock puppet the gewns used to control nullsec politics while pretending to be victims. Finally Malaku and Mittani are actually the same person. Goons own -A-, why do you think they dropped all their sov?

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-12-27 20:21:35 UTC
It happened in the past and EVE is not a game famous for it's trusting community.

EVE has a lot of what folks call meta gaming - meaning scamming, lying, breaking your word, dishonesty and general lack of honorable behavior. It is designed this way.

Just think what kind of minds put such a world together to enable the game play and how far you'd be willing to trust that kind of "intelligence" - trust tends to be a 4 letter word here.

Once they broke trust, it became damned difficult to reestablish it - even years after an incident happened - it still boils down to a well deserved lack of trust due to the nature of what they designed.

Also - Just because you may be paranoid doesn't mean *they* aren't after you.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#20 - 2012-12-27 20:26:10 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Cyrvys en Distel wrote:
I wonder where these 'conspiracy theory' types come from?


Why, what have you heard?!!?! Ugh

You see, teh gewns want to put all PVE players and hi seccers into concentration / re-education camps called "Gooncademy". BoB was actually a secret shadow alliance of teh gewnz and was a sock puppet the gewns used to control nullsec politics while pretending to be victims. Finally Malaku and Mittani are actually the same person. Goons own -A-, why do you think they dropped all their sov?

It's called "highsec" and CONCORD are the camp guards.

You don't talk back to -SOLOSOLOSOLO-

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
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