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People can take mission drops from cargo containers?

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Equinox Spider
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-27 02:13:18 UTC
I have just done the damsel in distress mission, was around 30km off the cargo container, i see a frig warp in and salvage my wrecks, and then another ship fly in, next thing i know, a cargo container vanishes, my mission loot (required to complete the mission) had gone :( wasn't aware people could take loot out of cargo containers specifically for missions :(

Ah well, more pew pew tomorrow ha!
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-12-27 02:27:55 UTC
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-27 02:58:18 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
yeah. mission item thefts lead to:


That looks like suicide gank. And posting km is against forum rules.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#4 - 2012-12-27 03:18:44 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
sabre906 wrote:
And posting km is against forum rules.
Actually, it isn't. Forum Rules.

Mind you, excessive link posting, posting links out of the context of a thread or using KM links to belittle/harass/troll people might be considered as a breach of forum rules. Pro tip: don't break them.....Blink


Edit: To the OP, yes they can steal your mission loot. The good thing is that since the implementation of the Retribution expansion, you can shoot them for it on the spot. Actually, anyone on grid with you can shoot them, as by stealing from you, they get a suspect flag. You can read more on flags and their consequences here.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-12-27 07:54:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
the mission item looting trap works like this:

they loot a mission item, then offer it back to you. maybe even after an apology,"sorry bro I was just looting, but I don't want to stop your mission."

then you think all is well and reclaim your mission loot, but technically it became theirs (with the penalty of a suspect flag). so... even though it might have started as yours, it became theirs, and now you're the one looting.

then an overwhelming force warps in and kills your ship. if they're messing with you and your loot, they've already scouted you out and are confident they will destroy your ship if the trap works. a mission isn't worth it--you did the right thing--let it respawn after downtime

it used to be that the suspect/legal target/criminal flag was to the can owner's corp. now, it's to everyone... and baiting gangs don't need to be in the same corp to work together against a mission runner.

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Equinox Spider
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-27 13:05:07 UTC
I think my overview wasn't setup properly, so the suspect flag wasn't showing otherwise i would have fired given the chance! I know for future though :) thanks for the replies.
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2012-12-28 05:10:22 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8975336


...oh my

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Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
#8 - 2012-12-28 06:03:04 UTC
About a year and a half ago you could open a petition to get the mission item from a GM under the grounds of griefing. The reason that worked is because mission object items have no real value. This only worked on certain missions where the mission was flagged complete before the mission object was looted and returned to the agent.

Some missions will respawn even if the object is looted but you cant dock in the station with the agent so you can acquire a few of them to sell or keep as backups. I use to do this to get extra Recovered Data Cores and Gallente Admiral's corpse and then put them up on contracts at a premium price.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#9 - 2012-12-28 09:19:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Brewlar Kuvakei
ISD Ezwal wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
And posting km is against forum rules.
Actually, it isn't. Forum Rules.

Mind you, excessive link posting, posting links out of the context of a thread or using KM links to belittle/harass/troll people might be considered as a breach of forum rules. Pro tip: don't break them.....Blink


Edit: To the OP, yes they can steal your mission loot. The good thing is that since the implementation of the Retribution expansion, you can shoot them for it on the spot. Actually, anyone on grid with you can shoot them, as by stealing from you, they get a suspect flag. You can read more on flags and their consequences here.


And like the nice ISD guy says, you should shoot them or they'll just keep doing it to you. Also they are in a little frig and your battleship could easily kill them, I mean you just destroyed like 30 NPC ships so this 1 little frig has no chance, right guys?
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#10 - 2012-12-28 09:25:25 UTC
Kirkwood Ross wrote:
About a year and a half ago you could open a petition to get the mission item from a GM under the grounds of griefing. The reason that worked is because mission object items have no real value. This only worked on certain missions where the mission was flagged complete before the mission object was looted and returned to the agent.

Some missions will respawn even if the object is looted but you cant dock in the station with the agent so you can acquire a few of them to sell or keep as backups. I use to do this to get extra Recovered Data Cores and Gallente Admiral's corpse and then put them up on contracts at a premium price.


Yeah that is just GM abuse and should be reported. Mission items are valid targets for theft and extortion. If you have any evidence of GM's handing mission items back please report them to CCP internal affairs alongside any other unfair reimbursements and this includes within your corp/alliance and for ships as well.

Killing ships is fun but getting GM status removed from douche's who corrupt the game is even better. Remember when the Null sec alliances got their reimbursements published, ahhh fun times when PVP means F£^$ all because it all gets reimbursed.

EVE- the not so persistent universe when your corp mates a GM.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-12-28 09:53:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
Equinox Spider wrote:
I think my overview wasn't setup properly, so the suspect flag wasn't showing otherwise i would have fired given the chance! I know for future though :) thanks for the replies.


you don't want to shoot those people, because once you do, they can change ships. before they loot from you, they've scouted you already and as far as you know, passive targeter ship/ scanned you... so they know exactly what they need to kill you.

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shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-12-28 11:02:29 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Kirkwood Ross wrote:
About a year and a half ago you could open a petition to get the mission item from a GM under the grounds of griefing. The reason that worked is because mission object items have no real value. This only worked on certain missions where the mission was flagged complete before the mission object was looted and returned to the agent.

Some missions will respawn even if the object is looted but you cant dock in the station with the agent so you can acquire a few of them to sell or keep as backups. I use to do this to get extra Recovered Data Cores and Gallente Admiral's corpse and then put them up on contracts at a premium price.


Yeah that is just GM abuse and should be reported. Mission items are valid targets for theft and extortion. If you have any evidence of GM's handing mission items back please report them to CCP internal affairs alongside any other unfair reimbursements and this includes within your corp/alliance and for ships as well.

Killing ships is fun but getting GM status removed from douche's who corrupt the game is even better. Remember when the Null sec alliances got their reimbursements published, ahhh fun times when PVP means F£^$ all because it all gets reimbursed.

EVE- the not so persistent universe when your corp mates a GM.


However Eve is still a game and not the most important thing in the world So even if a GM hands out a almost worthless item, isnt it a bit inappropriated to ask him getting fired and losing his job? I should say "again" in this case, since you prolly found enough reasons to get the entire CCP staff fired alreadyRoll

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Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#13 - 2012-12-28 14:51:57 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Kirkwood Ross wrote:
About a year and a half ago you could open a petition to get the mission item from a GM under the grounds of griefing. The reason that worked is because mission object items have no real value. This only worked on certain missions where the mission was flagged complete before the mission object was looted and returned to the agent.

Some missions will respawn even if the object is looted but you cant dock in the station with the agent so you can acquire a few of them to sell or keep as backups. I use to do this to get extra Recovered Data Cores and Gallente Admiral's corpse and then put them up on contracts at a premium price.


Yeah that is just GM abuse and should be reported. Mission items are valid targets for theft and extortion. If you have any evidence of GM's handing mission items back please report them to CCP internal affairs alongside any other unfair reimbursements and this includes within your corp/alliance and for ships as well.

Killing ships is fun but getting GM status removed from douche's who corrupt the game is even better. Remember when the Null sec alliances got their reimbursements published, ahhh fun times when PVP means F£^$ all because it all gets reimbursed.

EVE- the not so persistent universe when your corp mates a GM.


However Eve is still a game and not the most important thing in the world So even if a GM hands out a almost worthless item, isnt it a bit inappropriated to ask him getting fired and losing his job? I should say "again" in this case, since you prolly found enough reasons to get the entire CCP staff fired alreadyRoll


TLDR:

ITS JUST A GAME. All of you. Its JUST a GAME.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#14 - 2012-12-28 15:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Brewlar Kuvakei
It's just a game try telling that to CCP when you get caught doing a bit of harmless RMT, woah dudes don't get so pissy I'm just selling this drake here for a buck why cry about it?

Mean time GM's handing billions of ISK to their pet alliances.

Geez even when you get too good at this game CCP takes a strop just like they did with goons FW market manipulation. Fair 1 close up the plug that allowed them to do it but removing their isk was jsut plain wrong unless they were using a script to bust out even more isk.
Istvann
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-12-28 16:44:16 UTC
I have never asked for the mission item when this has happened to me in the past. I have asked to have the mission re-set or or repopped and they have done that. That is a better way to go in my opinion. More bounties come your way from clearing the mission area again.