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indiana bones
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-26 21:52:59 UTC
I've been thinking of setting up in a Wolf Rayet system and was wondering if the bonuses apply to the NPC's and POS's.

After quite a bit of searching I've found conflicting reports, some saying they do apply and others saying they don't. So before commiting any assets I would like to know. Even the CCP wiki states:

"There are many possibilities, but remember that they apply to both you and anyone else in the w-space, although not necessarily the Sleepers."

Can anyone offer any insight?

Cheers
VDNKH
Cerberus Incorporate
#2 - 2012-12-26 21:55:59 UTC
EVE University wiki says :

Quote:
Wormhole Systems can have an 'Anomaly' or Effects inside them that affects attributes of every ship in the system (Sleepers included).


But a confirmation wouldn't hurt.
Dukandreas
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-12-26 21:59:09 UTC
I can confirm that POSes are affected. Before they fixed the downtime shield resets, my POS used to take all day to recharge all the shields it got from the Pulsar.

About sleepers, I have alwasy been under the impression they get affected just as much as everyone else. That's why I am glad they dont have shields :).
Flay Geobukseon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-12-26 22:03:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Flay Geobukseon
The E-UNI wiki is probably mistaken. Although CCP devs have contradicted themselves on this point, I believe this was the final word on w-space environmental effects on sleepers:

http://i.imgur.com/B495L.png

I checked when I lived in a wolf-rayet, and the pos shields seemed unaffected by the environmental effects according to the attributes.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-12-26 22:30:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Svodola Darkfury
Non-player entities (Towers, sleepers) are not affected by wormhole effects anymore.

At launch of wormholes, they were I think; but magnetars and wolf-rayets would have been crazy hard higher up so those system types were super dead.

I can confirm this based on running hundreds of C4 wormholes where the effects are quite pronounced and noticeable. a +68% damage bonus on the sleepers would break our tank rating on our battleships, showing that a magnetar does not affect them. Similarly, their tank is no better in a wolf-rayet (armor only sleepers) or worse in a pulsar.

[quick edit]: Drones ARE affected by at least SOME of the effects of wormholes. I'm unsure if black holes make them faster, but I know with 100% certainty that their damage is increased in magnetars.

Hope that helps,

Svodola Darkfury.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#6 - 2012-12-27 01:22:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Don't take anything for granted as CCP doesn't seem to have covered every eventuality - sleepers and structures _shouldn't_ be affected but some aspects are broken i.e. POSes in a pulsar don't get the shield HP bonus but some of their other related stats aren't calculated properly sometimes which results in incorrect data sometimes being shown in the POS management screen and/or on locked targets on structures as some people have noticed during POS bashes. (there was a time when POSes in a pulsar got the bonuses).
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-12-27 01:34:37 UTC
Only player ships and modules are affected.

No towers, NPC's, anchorable anything etc
Omen Nihilo
Omen Holdings
#8 - 2012-12-27 03:27:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Omen Nihilo
EDIT: what this guy said:
Oxandrolone wrote:
Only player ships and modules are affected.

No towers, NPC's, anchorable anything etc
ROSSLINDEN0
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#9 - 2012-12-27 05:46:22 UTC
NPC's don't get the bonuses
ROSSLINDEN0s Slave
Bastage Network
The Ivana Trading Federation Federation
#10 - 2012-12-27 05:47:25 UTC
NPC's do get the bonuses
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#11 - 2012-12-27 06:07:57 UTC
NPCs might get the bonuses
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-12-27 06:22:29 UTC
NPC's and bonuses exist in a box with a cesium atom and a vial of poison. You have to scan down the box and loot it to find out it they are affected or not.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-12-27 11:17:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
VDNKH wrote:
EVE University wiki says :

Quote:
Wormhole Systems can have an 'Anomaly' or Effects inside them that affects attributes of every ship in the system (Sleepers included).


But a confirmation wouldn't hurt.


this is wrong.
sleepers are not affected by any WH effects anymore. (they were affected by some years ago.)

pro tip: WH page on EUNI wiki is god awful. last i checked it almost all of it was at best terribly out dated or more likely completely wrong/incomplete.

EDIT: ok, it's been updated a bit since i last checked but the number figures are still not correct.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2012-12-27 12:16:13 UTC
Svodola Darkfury wrote:


[quick edit]: Drones ARE affected by at least SOME of the effects of wormholes. I'm unsure if black holes make them faster, but I know with 100% certainty that their damage is increased in magnetars.

Hope that helps,

Svodola Darkfury.


Yes, Black Holes make your drones faster, up to a point where Warriors have problems getting back to your drone bay :D

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#15 - 2012-12-27 14:04:02 UTC
^^ Drones in a pulsar also get the boost to shield HP, sig bloom and armor nerf.
Shinobi Jonin
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-12-27 14:54:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Shinobi Jonin
Sleepers used to get the bonuses from Wolf rayet however recent testing confirms they have changd that and they Do Not receive the bonuses anymore.

Haven't found any sleepers anywhere receiving the system bonus for a long while.

Haven't tested Pos in pulsars recently but I do remember hearing that they changed that so they DO Not receive the bonuses anymore.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#17 - 2012-12-27 17:39:56 UTC
Shinobi Jonin wrote:

Haven't tested Pos in pulsars recently but I do remember hearing that they changed that so they DO Not receive the bonuses anymore.


They don't (normally) get the HP bonus any more but from what I and others have seen they are a little glitchy under some conditions still i.e. the point they go RF and info in the management screen can sometimes be a bit off. The strength of sigs in a pulsar can be a bit glitchy too sometimes showing odd strengths that aren't what they should be either by normal standards or what you'd expect if you took the pulsar bloom into account either.