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Mara Rinn

Cosmic Goo Convertor

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#41 - 2012-12-27 01:55:10 UTC

NightmareX wrote:

Can you use flash on your iOS device?

Can you use Adobe Flash on any mobile device? Adobe canned Flash for mobile because it was never going to work efficiently. You can still build apps using Flash, but then what you get is a "native app" which is basically a Flash runtime with your Flash thingy baked into it.

What does Flash do for you that real web pages don't?

NightmareX wrote:

Can you surf on the internet on REAL web pages (not mobile optimized web pages sized for your mobile device)?

I prefer mobile optimized pages, since I don't like waiting five minutes to find out what the train timetable is, having just missed the train I thought I was on time for. If I'm on the platform at the train station with my phone in my hand, all I want to see is the schedule for trains on the line I'm interested in. Why would you want to surf pages designed for 1024px wide screens on a device with a much smaller screen? What's the point?

NightmareX wrote:

EDIT: Dolphin Browser for Android is the best browser when it comes to speed and performance. Yes it supports extensions to. But the only reason i'm using Firefox for Android is because i can sync all of my bookmarks on my Desktop Firefox right to my Android Firefox.

I'm quite happy with Mobile Safari: it lets me browse web pages, doesn't support Flash (which means longer battery life, amongst other things), and all my bookmarks are synced between mobile and desktop. One of the features I love the most about Mobile Safari is that if I find an article that I'd like to read on a bigger screen, I can open that article on the desktop or iPad by simply opening the appropriate bookmark in the iCloud list. I don't need extensions, email, twitter, or anything fancy like that: just click the bookmark in Safari and the page opens.

PS: How can Dolphin be the best if it doesn't do what you want? Make up your mind.

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NightmareX

Pandemic Horde Inc.

Pandemic Horde

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#42 - 2012-12-27 01:55:31 UTC | Edited by: NightmareX

Tippia wrote:

NightmareX wrote:

And by installing flash blockers, you see the benefits of having extensions.

No, I just see incomplete browsers, and again, the one I use don't need any extentions.

So you are saying Opera have an inbuilt Ad / flash blocker?

If not, then you have to use extenstions (or ad-ons) to get rid of those.And thus, you see the benefit of using extensions / ad-ons to get rid of them.

Tippia wrote:

NightmareX wrote:

If we are talking Android, then Dolphin Browser -> Firefox -> Opera. If we are talking Windows, Linux or Mac OSX, then Firefox -> Google Chrome -> Opera -> Internet Explorer 10.

LMAO No. If we're talking anything, then Opera beats them all, simply due to integration and feature set — most of all Firefox which is so antedeluvian at this point that it probably falls behind IE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BibNjiimZ0

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Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX

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#43 - 2012-12-27 01:57:17 UTC

Tippia wrote:

NightmareX wrote:

Opera Mini on iOS is not even a fullworty web browser lol.

It does everything it needs to do. So sure it is.

Does it blocks ads?

Tippia wrote:

NightmareX wrote:

What exactly makes Opera better than Firefox or Chrome on Android / iOS?

It exists and it works. But on iOS, I'd say that the relationship is the reverse as long as you don't have to use google's codebase, in which case Chrome loses a lot. Firefox isn't even a contender, nor has it really been on the desktop for many years now. Granted, I haven't looked at it since it (as the only program ever) managed to kernel-panic my media computer two years ago so they might have improved, but short of a NS→Fx-style hack-and-slash rewrite, I seriously doubt it.

Yeah, Firefox or Dolphin Browser exists to and those works pretty good to on Android.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

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Dea della Morte Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 111	#44 - 2012-12-27 02:01:10 UTC 1 Galaxy SIII Problem solved? :P also flash


Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Likes received: 6,095	#45 - 2012-12-27 02:02:27 UTC 1 Dea della Morte wrote: Galaxy SIII Problem solved? :P also flash Let me know how good the Flash support is when you get your next OS update. Oh wait. Day 0 Advice for New Players

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

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#46 - 2012-12-27 02:18:19 UTC | Edited by: Tippia

NightmareX wrote:

So you are saying Opera have an inbuilt Ad / flash blocker?

Standard Opera Answer™ applies: of course. So no, I don't see the benefit of having an incomplete browser.

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Does it blocks ads?

Don't remember. I don't see any on the sites I use it for anyway.

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Yeah, Firefox or Dolphin Browser exists to and those works pretty good to on Android.

…but not on iOS, and thus not a contender. As for the test you linked, I would very much like to see it re-run with Fx loaded down with all the cruft it needs to have to be a comparable browser… Blink

The thing about Opera is that it was the origin of pretty much everything you see in modern browsers and it still does most of it better than anyone else, right out of the box. The amount of customization I've done to my install, and the amount of customization it natively lets me do to the web means that I see the web exactly the way I want to see it, and the browser doesn't need any additions to make all of that happen, nor does any such alteration change the speed or footprint of the whole thing.

There's a reason why I gave up on Fx: it couldn't keep up with me, and when I tried to coax it, it started killing things around it (not to mention itself). Chrome and Safari are decent bare-bones browsers for when that's needed — Safari obviously integrates well with Apple's stuff in much the same (bad) way IE integrated with MS' in its heyday, and that comes in handy every now and then.

NightmareX

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#47 - 2012-12-27 02:19:39 UTC

Mara Rinn wrote:

NightmareX wrote:

Can you use flash on your iOS device?

Like surfing the YouTube web page directly and watch videos right from the web browser. Yes, flash performance on Android is much better than running the HTML5 page of YouTube.

Mara Rinn wrote:

NightmareX wrote:

Can you surf on the internet on REAL web pages (not mobile optimized web pages sized for your mobile device)?

If you have to wait 5 mins to load a web page with a browser that supports this 'Desktop Browsing' thingie, then you have done something horribly wrong. Firefox on my Galaxy Note loads as fast as it does on my Windows 8 laptop.

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Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX

Pandemic Horde Inc.

Pandemic Horde

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#48 - 2012-12-27 02:19:58 UTC | Edited by: NightmareX

Mara Rinn wrote:

NightmareX wrote:

When i sit on my desktop computer, i won't open the web page on a phone or tablet then. I will then read the web page on my main computer. However. If i'm in a rush, then i have an extension called 'Fox To Phone' to Firefox that will send any links to your Android phone or tablet so you can read it later when you are on the bus / taxi or something like that.

And if i find a web page on my Galaxy Note with Firefox, then i can just save the web page in my bookmarks list and it will appear pretty much instantly in my bookmark list under Mobile Bookmarks in desktop Firefox.

Oh also, you say Flash use battery?

Really?

Didn't you know that Wi-Fi are using more battery than 3G network to?

Maybe you should use 3G network over Wi-Fi then, even when you are at home with your Wi-Fi network?

Mara Rinn wrote:

PS: How can Dolphin be the best if it doesn't do what you want? Make up your mind.

Dolphin is the easiest and fastest web browser for Android. Even Dolphin Browser supports AdBlock Plus and it can enable flash on command. And with this, it's going to give you a much better web experience than Safari or Opera for iOS will do ever.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX

Pandemic Horde Inc.

Pandemic Horde

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#49 - 2012-12-27 02:25:30 UTC | Edited by: NightmareX

Mara Rinn wrote:

Dea della Morte wrote:

Galaxy SIII

Problem solved? :P
also flash

Let me know how good the Flash support is when you get your next OS update.

Oh wait.

Ok, mister smartypants. Took me 5 seconds to search after 'Adobe Flash Android 4.0' in Google to find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774336

Adobe Flash works really well in Android 4.1.x and 4.2.x. That's why flash works very good on my Galaxy Note with Android 4.1.2.

EDIT: Here you can see why we really like Flash on Android phones today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkgmqOrpKyc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nh2NSLgaII

Yes, because it makes the experience the same on the phone as it is on a desktop computer or laptop.

EDIT 2: Surfing mobile web sites are so 2005-2006 Lol

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

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Mars Theran Foreign Interloper Likes received: 1,781	#50 - 2012-12-27 05:59:23 UTC 1 Works on my iPhone 4. Not that I like reading or posting from it; kind of a pain actually, and mostly because it's terribly slow. I'm not patient with slow. `zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub`

NightmareX

Pandemic Horde Inc.

Pandemic Horde

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#51 - 2013-02-13 14:09:10 UTC | Edited by: NightmareX

Tippia, did you say that the WebKit was bad in Firefox and Dolphin Browser, or the whole WebKit thingie was bad?

Opera does not agree with that.

Because, i'm happy to announce that Opera will ditch Presto engine and go over to WebKit engine them self lol: http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2013/02/13/

So that means Dolphin Browser will be the best one then.

Or, i found another nice web browser to Android that i really like so far. It's called HoloWeb Internet Browser.

You can download the latest Beta version here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4u8A4_kqBPcekxXcC1IV2xwcms/edit

Yes, HoloWeb is more of a copy (thus removed from Play Store) of Tint Browser, but the workflow for HoloWeb is a lot better.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

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Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 4,673	#52 - 2013-02-13 14:14:17 UTC 1 Since all the good replies are taken, ll just say lol Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.

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Dante Uisen Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 302	#53 - 2013-02-13 14:14:30 UTC 1 Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Can't log in nor can I post things on the forums with my smart phone. I thought they updated the website not too long ago.... The website works with smart phone like eve does with linux and mac, all joking aside the site works for my on android.

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Pewty McPew EVE Corporation 2357451 Likes received: 481	#54 - 2013-02-13 14:14:47 UTC 1 There is your problem, you are using an IPhone.

Inxentas Ultramar

Ultramar Independent Contracting

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#55 - 2013-02-13 14:51:54 UTC | Edited by: Inxentas Ultramar

iPhone? Isn't that an Apple product? Wasn't Apple the company that hated Adobe so much, they refused to support Flash on their devices? And wasn't it Steve Jobs who advocated against Flash because its was 'heavy and slow', and wasn't he of the opinion Javascript was better suitable then Adobe's crossbrowser plugin, despite fragmented support for it, despite the existance of benchmarked proof well-coded Flash has way better performance? And isn't it so that thanks to Apple's popularity, most IT projects done nowadays are iPhone / iPad compatible because they use Javascript? You should buy the new iPhone bro! I'm sure that will solve your issue.

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Wodensun Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 168	#56 - 2013-02-13 14:57:09 UTC 1 Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Some websites have the self respect to not lower themselves to be displayed on anything from Apple Quoted from my Amiga 2600 Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident...

Wodensun

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#57 - 2013-02-13 15:00:05 UTC

Mara Rinn wrote:

Dea della Morte wrote:

Galaxy SIII

Problem solved? :P
also flash

Let me know how good the Flash support is when you get your next OS update.

Oh wait.

Why would you want flash anyways its absolute sheit ranks 2 or 3 on the most exploited software 1 being java and 2 being adobe reader.. HTML5 ftw

Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident...

NightmareX

Pandemic Horde Inc.

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#58 - 2013-02-13 15:14:38 UTC | Edited by: NightmareX

Wodensun wrote:

Mara Rinn wrote:

Dea della Morte wrote:

Galaxy SIII

Problem solved? :P
also flash

Let me know how good the Flash support is when you get your next OS update.

Oh wait.

Why would you want flash anyways its absolute sheit ranks 2 or 3 on the most exploited software 1 being java and 2 being adobe reader.. HTML5 ftw

HTML5 is not ftw when it first of all use more power / battery than flash and secondly, it's slower than flash when it comes to performance.

Why doesn't anyone of the HTML5 fanboys thinks about that?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

De'Veldrin

Republic University

Minmatar Republic

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#59 - 2013-02-13 16:09:08 UTC

Is it too late to add that I am posting from my IBM Selectric?

And to ask why this is wasn't in the localizations and work around forums?

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

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Ginger Barbarella Likes received: 2,069	#60 - 2013-02-13 16:13:22 UTC 1 Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Can't log in nor can I post things on the forums with my smart phone. I thought they updated the website not too long ago.... Get a real smartphone; using that "media consumption device" will rot your brain. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

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