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The Hero that High Sec Deserves: aka: You guys really want to hit Goons back? I can help.

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Xenuria
#141 - 2011-10-23 13:35:32 UTC
I am the hero High Sec Needs!

But I am too busy with collage and my various pilot research studies.
"Publish or Perish" as they always say.

CSM 12 Candidate
Quaaid
Phoenix Foundry
#142 - 2011-10-23 14:02:07 UTC
I came to see an epic killboard, leaving disappointed.


I don't know low/null sec very well, but it is clear from you kill history that you don't know high sec warfare. Your KB has blob allwhere.
jizzlez
Herb Men
#143 - 2011-10-23 14:06:07 UTC
I honestly hope some of you arent stupid enough to fall for this,But another lil part of me wants to see this scam go forward to the point of epic carebear mining tears of doom!
jizzlez
Herb Men
#144 - 2011-10-23 14:09:27 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
I am the hero High Sec Needs!

But I am too busy with collage and my various pilot research studies.
"Publish or Perish" as they always say.




Could you make me a collage?Ill send you the 1000 pics arrange them in the shape of a thorax when your about ten feet away but as you get closer the collage of pictures come into focus.Eve-Mail me or contact me here for rates and details.
Aleksei Zukov
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
#145 - 2011-10-23 17:37:47 UTC
Quaaid wrote:
I came to see an epic killboard, leaving disappointed.


I don't know low/null sec very well, but it is clear from you kill history that you don't know high sec warfare. Your KB has blob allwhere.


You're right, most nullsec pilots don't scan down mission pockets of idiot war targets flying faction fit CNRs for impressive "solo kills", however we do often run in gangs of 30 or more. But if you call THAT blobbing... then holy ****, pubbies... get out more. Blobbing is when you have 200 supercaps and 500+ subcaps on one side. You just don't see that sort of firepower in high sec.
Ammatar Stark
Doomheim
#146 - 2011-10-23 17:51:03 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
You have my axe.


And my bow.
Andromeus Snowfall
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#147 - 2011-10-23 21:25:37 UTC
Ammatar Stark wrote:
Lykouleon wrote:
You have my axe.


And my bow.


And my sword!


Also, when is the corporation going to be created? I'll probably join you.
Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#148 - 2011-10-24 01:08:25 UTC
Aleksei Zukov wrote:
Quaaid wrote:
I came to see an epic killboard, leaving disappointed.


I don't know low/null sec very well, but it is clear from you kill history that you don't know high sec warfare. Your KB has blob allwhere.


You're right, most nullsec pilots don't scan down mission pockets of idiot war targets flying faction fit CNRs for impressive "solo kills", however we do often run in gangs of 30 or more. But if you call THAT blobbing... then holy ****, pubbies... get out more. Blobbing is when you have 200 supercaps and 500+ subcaps on one side. You just don't see that sort of firepower in high sec.



Very good, i see the intelligentsia have landed. 3 to 5 on 1 is a gank. 30 on 1 is a blob. 5v5 is a small gang fight. 30v30 is a fleet battle. Rare to see much bigger in high sec, the systems can be so busy with bystanders that two teams of 500 would lag the system down to hell. Also, it's hard to tell where the fight will be unless you're hassling someone's base or some resource, both of which can have duplicates not very far away.

High sec is a different game. Leave the daddy issues at the door, it's that 14 yr old 'better-than-you' track that you can do at any speed, but it only goes around and around...and around.

"That's nothing! I was in a fight last week with 1500 subcaps and 1000 caps, youdon'tknownuffing..." YAWN

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
veshna wildsun
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#149 - 2011-10-24 01:57:09 UTC
Ammatar Stark wrote:
Lykouleon wrote:
You have my axe.


And my bow.


And my steel!
Merdas Charante
Scurvy Crew.
#150 - 2011-10-24 02:33:42 UTC
Seems like a good way to earn some pvp experience. I'd like to join up! :)
Kitt JT
True North.
#151 - 2011-10-24 04:11:12 UTC
You guys are stupid if you believe this. Xystance is a member of test. Test are goon pets. They wouldn't do anything like this because they are too scared to lose their sov.
And Xystance is NOT disenfranchised from TEST or goons. Infact, I killed him in delve working with a goon fleet THIS WEEK.

Don't be fooled by this guy.
Zhade Lezte
#152 - 2011-10-24 05:10:44 UTC
DG Bayley wrote:
I'm up for giving it a try. Do I hate the Goons? Nope. Do I think I'm going to get the skills to take on 5 Goons solo? Nope. Is it because I have nothing (well, next to nothing) to lose if it turns out to be some kind of Goonandfriends plot? Yup. Every ship, module, and implant I own is cheap and easily relpaced, and this presents a good opportunity for a chance at some pew-pew. *snip*


:shobon:

This is a good thread, Xystance. Best of luck!
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#153 - 2011-10-24 05:54:49 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Aleksei Zukov wrote:
Quaaid wrote:
I came to see an epic killboard, leaving disappointed.


I don't know low/null sec very well, but it is clear from you kill history that you don't know high sec warfare. Your KB has blob allwhere.


You're right, most nullsec pilots don't scan down mission pockets of idiot war targets flying faction fit CNRs for impressive "solo kills", however we do often run in gangs of 30 or more. But if you call THAT blobbing... then holy ****, pubbies... get out more. Blobbing is when you have 200 supercaps and 500+ subcaps on one side. You just don't see that sort of firepower in high sec.



Very good, i see the intelligentsia have landed. 3 to 5 on 1 is a gank. 30 on 1 is a blob. 5v5 is a small gang fight. 30v30 is a fleet battle. Rare to see much bigger in high sec, the systems can be so busy with bystanders that two teams of 500 would lag the system down to hell. Also, it's hard to tell where the fight will be unless you're hassling someone's base or some resource, both of which can have duplicates not very far away.

High sec is a different game. Leave the daddy issues at the door, it's that 14 yr old 'better-than-you' track that you can do at any speed, but it only goes around and around...and around.

"That's nothing! I was in a fight last week with 1500 subcaps and 1000 caps, youdon'tknownuffing..." YAWN

Its a different game because the people there are not team players. Nullsec pilots don't really care about a fair fight, and when all you have to do is say 'killmail' in alliance chat and you have a 20-30 man fleet already staged and ready, your not going to say 'only 5 people can come'. Are you stupid? Nullsec can bring the numbers, and thats why our fleets will almost always win vs carebear fleets(well, numbers, disciprine, well developed fleet compositions, pilots who are eager to see ships blow up no matter whos they are)

HOWEVER, I have yet to see anyone who is actually behind this claim to want to fight in highsec, the proposal is to train highsec carebears to be able to take the fight to Goons. That IS something that any TEST or Goon vet is going to be fairly good at, due to the extremely newbie friendly policies both groups maintain.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#154 - 2011-10-24 07:30:22 UTC
Nulsec has a way of draining the interest from even the most excitable PvPers. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Xystance was getting sick and tired of it. He was seeming rather run down a couple months ago.

My first experience with TEST was out in Scalding Pass when they attacked Primary. We always enjoyed them coming out for a bit as it was hilarious to violate them both orally and anally. Then the whole damn region assploded in an epic failcascade. Easily my best time in Eve.

If there is one thing you can count on with this, there will be fun times and turd-poasting all around. Even if it turns out to be a massive lol scam, who cares? Its just rifters after all.

I approve of this product and/or service.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#155 - 2011-10-24 08:09:27 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
Nulsec has a way of draining the interest from even the most excitable PvPers. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Xystance was getting sick and tired of it. He was seeming rather run down a couple months ago.

My first experience with TEST was out in Scalding Pass when they attacked Primary. We always enjoyed them coming out for a bit as it was hilarious to violate them both orally and anally. Then the whole damn region assploded in an epic failcascade. Easily my best time in Eve.

If there is one thing you can count on with this, there will be fun times and turd-poasting all around. Even if it turns out to be a massive lol scam, who cares? Its just rifters after all.

I approve of this product and/or service.

Nullsec is alot of tedious work. Thats why its so hard to for small entities to exist, imo. Too much work and not enough shoulders to carry the burden.

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#156 - 2011-10-24 09:54:34 UTC
veshna wildsun wrote:
Ammatar Stark wrote:
Lykouleon wrote:
You have my axe.


And my bow.


And my steel!


Don't forget my Quarterstaff of Ass-Kicking +5!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#157 - 2011-10-24 10:02:15 UTC
High Sec corps that have lost stuff to Goons, here is what you do, war dec these two corps:

Steel Daggers
Dark Mason Society

Steel Daggers are the industrial and PVE corp of Convicted which are a Goon pet, they dropped the Convicted alliance to get out of a war dec. Dark Mason are the same for Forsaken. The Goons are using their pets to attack behind the main combat area, so if you want to get some payback war dec these two and kill their stuff. Have fun...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#158 - 2011-10-24 10:09:22 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
High Sec corps that have lost stuff to Goons, here is what you do, war dec these two corps:

Steel Daggers
Dark Mason Society

Steel Daggers are the industrial and PVE corp of Convicted which are a Goon pet, they dropped the Convicted alliance to get out of a war dec. Dark Mason are the same for Forsaken. The Goons are using their pets to attack behind the main combat area, so if you want to get some payback war dec these two and kill their stuff. Have fun...


If your gonna wardec highsec logistics corps to get to the goons, might it not be a good idea to actually go after GOON logistic corps? Roll

Goon 'pets'(and believe it or not, goons don't have pets, they have allies) are expected to take care of themselves, and are almost never actually providing anything anyone else in the CFC needs. We trade between alliances, but mostly for convenience. EVERYONE has their own logistics branch, using neutral corps with no visible links to the CFC.

Attacking goon allies to hurt goons isn't going to do any good. Worst case scenario, every time you engage them 1000 bored goon alts flood into system to suicide gank, or neut rep/boost the people you go after, creating unwinnable fights for you.

Also, how hard do you think it is to bring up a new logistics corp you don't know about? 5 minutes or so, I personally control 2 that currently do nothing, but are there if we need some empire hauling done.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#159 - 2011-10-24 10:19:21 UTC
The Goon logistic corp in the alliance actually looks after Null Sec infastructure, they have alts in NPC corps or corps that have no link to Goons to move around in High Sec.

Goons are very difficult to touch, but their pets arre vulnerable and if you hurt them they are unable to do their masters bidding, but you can fall for this obvious trap or do something that will cause them issues.

FA are Goon pets, of course they would try to discourage you from this effective course of action...

Tallian Saotome wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
High Sec corps that have lost stuff to Goons, here is what you do, war dec these two corps:

Steel Daggers
Dark Mason Society

Steel Daggers are the industrial and PVE corp of Convicted which are a Goon pet, they dropped the Convicted alliance to get out of a war dec. Dark Mason are the same for Forsaken. The Goons are using their pets to attack behind the main combat area, so if you want to get some payback war dec these two and kill their stuff. Have fun...


If your gonna wardec highsec logistics corps to get to the goons, might it not be a good idea to actually go after GOON logistic corps? Roll

Goon 'pets'(and believe it or not, goons don't have pets, they have allies) are expected to take care of themselves, and are almost never actually providing anything anyone else in the CFC needs. We trade between alliances, but mostly for convenience. EVERYONE has their own logistics branch, using neutral corps with no visible links to the CFC.

Attacking goon allies to hurt goons isn't going to do any good. Worst case scenario, every time you engage them 1000 bored goon alts flood into system to suicide gank, or neut rep/boost the people you go after, creating unwinnable fights for you.

Also, how hard do you think it is to bring up a new logistics corp you don't know about? 5 minutes or so, I personally control 2 that currently do nothing, but are there if we need some empire hauling done.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#160 - 2011-10-24 11:02:17 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
The Goon logistic corp in the alliance actually looks after Null Sec infastructure, they have alts in NPC corps or corps that have no link to Goons to move around in High Sec.

Goons are very difficult to touch, but their pets arre vulnerable and if you hurt them they are unable to do their masters bidding, but you can fall for this obvious trap or do something that will cause them issues.

FA are Goon pets, of course they would try to discourage you from this effective course of action...

Tallian Saotome wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
High Sec corps that have lost stuff to Goons, here is what you do, war dec these two corps:

Steel Daggers
Dark Mason Society

Steel Daggers are the industrial and PVE corp of Convicted which are a Goon pet, they dropped the Convicted alliance to get out of a war dec. Dark Mason are the same for Forsaken. The Goons are using their pets to attack behind the main combat area, so if you want to get some payback war dec these two and kill their stuff. Have fun...


If your gonna wardec highsec logistics corps to get to the goons, might it not be a good idea to actually go after GOON logistic corps? Roll

Goon 'pets'(and believe it or not, goons don't have pets, they have allies) are expected to take care of themselves, and are almost never actually providing anything anyone else in the CFC needs. We trade between alliances, but mostly for convenience. EVERYONE has their own logistics branch, using neutral corps with no visible links to the CFC.

Attacking goon allies to hurt goons isn't going to do any good. Worst case scenario, every time you engage them 1000 bored goon alts flood into system to suicide gank, or neut rep/boost the people you go after, creating unwinnable fights for you.

Also, how hard do you think it is to bring up a new logistics corp you don't know about? 5 minutes or so, I personally control 2 that currently do nothing, but are there if we need some empire hauling done.


LMAO, go ahead, if you think you can find out internal logistics. I REALLY want you to see how fast that corp vanishes, and how much isk you will burn wardeccing them, even if you have such good spaiz that you can find them all.

More than that, 'pets' pay rent, and have CTAs where they have to show up to do their 'masters' bidding. Yes, Goons are basically the big brother in the family, and as such tend to guide the coalition as a whole, but we do what we want as an alliance, and as individual pilots. You calling any CFC alliance a 'pet' is like saying that all of europe is Germany's pet, since they are the ones dominating Europe right now, saving economies.

Learn more about political organization before blindly labeling entities you don't understand.

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