Missions & Complexes

Nice to see some vids. Id be more interested to see how they fare in some of the missions where there's more than 8 npcs. I noticed one of your sentries in last vid got a little paint scratched. I don't think anything you experienced in these vids is what people are complaining about. If it is then it is very manageable.

When i am doing V's and i decide for some insane rreason to deploy drones if my finger is not on the button for recall at least one will die and certainly all will dock with some kind of armor damage. It is still a neccesity though to be able to kill scramble frigates in a timely fashion not just for the incoming dps but because of the possibility of hostile probers.

I do think the vids were a good post and i agree if this is the kind of drone issues the majority of people are having then it is quite manageable.

First the drone AI , is different when you use sentries or heavies lets say. Also on exploration sites sometimes the acc gate take you inside the grp, tons of damage and you need to burn the frigs fast to be able to get rid the webs so you can take some distance and tank the damage. Situations like that really show the retarted way light drones gets agro from pocket and get 1shotted or 2 shotted most of the time (its really the situation for many peoplle i believe) and you need to lose a few to get out. Also what i really have noticed is that for a strange reason , sentries get less agro from all the other drones.

how about if that happen to a mission then get your dual logis and a deticate frig killer . Its easier. MJD have no place , people tend to use mwd and a cloak most of the time because you might get jumped. Replacing that with a MJD will only make you dead . Also gl with that having yto burn back to 10-20 km cause of AC . The problem isnt the modules here. Is that they added the AI without rebalancing everything so they can actually work . When you doing a 7/10+ you will get webbed , scrammed by the same npc on many occassions. And you cant do nothing cause acc gates land you on frig orbit range. Peoples problem aint that drones get agro at some time , is that on full pockets that you do need em to work , drones get agro instantly as soon as you deploy. People are reporting full pocket agro with ewar , there you need the drones and ofc that is the time you see that AI dont work good. Test it to find out

Just to be sure I understand, when you release your drone to kill the things that are webbing and scramming you, said frigate immediately stop attacking you and focus on your drones? Seems like the solution to me, for you drone commodores with super awesome skills. Use a flight or 2 of tech 1 light drones to kill the scram/web frigs, all the while not being affected by them. Analyze, adapt, and overcome my friends.

I am not saying that t1 drones do not I get aggro, I am saying that if they get aggro, it isn't a bad thing. When you release a flight of drone, all the frigate in the immediate vicinity switch targets, after a period of a few seconds. This means that the scrams and webs from the frigs are no longer affecting you, allowing you to either pull range, or warp out. The reasoning behind having the tech 1 drones is that IF they die, you aren't actually losing that much money.

Updated.

This would be useful if they just didnt die so fast. I have no clue what is shooting the drones because i need to watch their hp, if i don't then they die. We're talking within 5 seconds they are in low armor. I'm almost certain that in most missions my ship is still scrammed while these drones die. Just from the way you word your response i'd have a hard time following your advice anyway because it seems to stem from ignorance. Not a flame, you just come off high and mighty as never having attempted the things I've done and would like to pretend that you know the solution.

there is not 1 light drone that will not get 1 shotted or 2 shotted from those elite frigs inside the plex. Thats the funny part. The only time you can actually lose something is the only time that you have a problem with the new drone AI. Faction drones cant really tank or perform better lets say angle military operation complex . Personally i have just changed my ships that i was using and i am ok , but that not an option for all

Was hoping for full room version, would have been more fun on the dps part :(
E-war? Missed the full room agro part, so your targeting range was never less than the next target in sight.
Multi-room? The first time I managed to do the first room, I cried inside, so boring where the next two room.

The way you did it was excellent, proper targeting, miniscule shield tank of one invuln one DC and one booster you didn't even need in fact, and I assume 5 magstab+DDA in the lows, and even a tracking comp to help out those six 425 IIs spewing CNA ammo.

Really educational vid.
Well, apart from the Curator II usage.

Did any of those ships get within 25km?
Was lazy to check.
Wonder how it would fare in one that has them already within optimal, and many of them, with the previous agro bug.

At some points in vid i did got 3X damped but damping isnt rly much of a prob..well with full room agro it would be and i can always slap tank on my ship to survive that aggro,but why would i do that it will cut in my performance making me camping there.

3 mags 2 drone dmg,with rails and sentrys there is not much chance of stuff getting close yes.