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The best and only way to nerf highsec
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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-12-25 15:36:58 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

your figures are as right as i am when i say "the sky is made of cheese"

6.3m per can of kernite, 20 mins (23 mins with t1 strips) to fill a retriever, 18.9m isk per hour.

takes about 30 seconds to do the correct maths and not look like a moron insisting you're right instead of actually researching the topic being discussed.

Didn't do the math, I looked at a clock >_>

please, never post again.

This might be good advice.

Gee, I agree with a Goon. Oh god, up is down, black is white, dogs and cats living together, aaaah!

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Dave Stark
#42 - 2012-12-25 16:30:04 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

your figures are as right as i am when i say "the sky is made of cheese"

6.3m per can of kernite, 20 mins (23 mins with t1 strips) to fill a retriever, 18.9m isk per hour.

takes about 30 seconds to do the correct maths and not look like a moron insisting you're right instead of actually researching the topic being discussed.

Didn't do the math, I looked at a clock >_>

please, never post again.

This might be good advice.

Gee, I agree with a Goon. Oh god, up is down, black is white, dogs and cats living together, aaaah!

you can let it slide, it's christmas. good will to all people and all that stuff.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-12-25 17:00:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

That's odd, it doesn't seem that hard to me.


I'm sure it doesn't. How's the weather in Mitten's colon?

Don't ban me, bro!
Captain Death1
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-12-25 17:24:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Death1
Reset the game set all skills of players to 0 remove all isk in game let them all start over then we nerf high sec

this will fix null and high sec
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#45 - 2012-12-25 19:17:53 UTC
Captain Death1 wrote:
Reset the game set all skills of players to 0 remove all isk in game let them all start over then we nerf high sec

this will fix null and high sec

....no
*Sprays with water*

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#46 - 2012-12-25 20:20:34 UTC
Why does it require nerfing?
Highsec may now be the most dangerous sec, huge bounties placed on carebears seems to create entertaining results.
Of course this may be exactly what CCP had in mind....After allowing an endless isk faucet to go unchecked in null for years, there is plenty of extra isk for griefing. Lol


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Ryder Lenberg
Lenberg Mining
#47 - 2012-12-25 20:20:53 UTC
More Miners and Industrialists WOULD move to low and null sec, BUT Because of ppl continusly keeps attacking Mining Ships etc, most Wount leave High sec, i have personaly lost WAY to much to take the risk of Idiot Gate Campers etc that Blow up mining ships etc thats only on Movement or at mining fields..


Make it safer for Miners and industrialists, And more of us WILL Move
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-12-25 20:23:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternal Error
+1 for nerfing highsec research/manufacturing/copy slots and/or increasing the fees significantly

-1 for the refining idea. This would do nothing but increase prices on low ends further (and disproportionately).

EDIT: To be clear, I view slot reductions as a change intended to rebalance risk/reward and make nullsec/lowsec industry more viable comparatively. Fee increases are something that should happen regardless to combat/account for inflation and to make highsec POSes more worthwhile.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#49 - 2012-12-25 21:14:47 UTC
Captain Death1 wrote:
Reset the game set all skills of players to 0 remove all isk in game let them all start over then we nerf high sec

this will fix null and high sec

Ok then. I hope you're ready to watch blobs of slashers.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#50 - 2012-12-25 21:32:57 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:

I remember seeing somewhere an industrialist say that he sells ships at a loss and makes a profit out of the modules.
Yup, that's really smart!


I won't intrude in the umpteenth cry nerf thread but this sentence sort of hit me as expecially misplaced.

Go and read about what a loss leader is. Large companies (like Sony and Amazon) and many supermarkets do it. Apparently that's really smart!

EvE Online portal | EvE markets tutorials
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#51 - 2012-12-25 21:57:22 UTC
celebro wrote:
No, there needs to be trade between high and null sec.


Good luck getting it past the gate camps. Oh wait, that's what all their alts are for, aren't they? They just blue their own hisec alts so that they can actually move stuff across the gatecamps. Now it makes sense.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#52 - 2012-12-25 21:58:48 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
celebro wrote:
No, there needs to be trade between high and null sec.

Good luck getting it past the gate camps. Oh wait, that's what all their alts are for, aren't they? They just blue their own hisec alts so that they can actually move stuff across the gatecamps. Now it makes sense.

So they can handle the risk, then we better nerf them. Put back the slots into highsec.

Oh, we're all done.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dave Stark
#53 - 2012-12-25 22:08:57 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Captain Death1 wrote:
Reset the game set all skills of players to 0 remove all isk in game let them all start over then we nerf high sec

this will fix null and high sec

Ok then. I hope you're ready to watch blobs of slashers.


i see your slashers, and raise you atrons.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-12-25 22:40:43 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Nerf idiots.



This.


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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2012-12-25 22:51:24 UTC
celebro wrote:
Nerf high sec and say bye bye to more than half the playerbase that live there.

Oh for ****'s sake, will you people ever stop with this ridiculous argument?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2012-12-25 22:52:46 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
celebro wrote:
No, there needs to be trade between high and null sec.


Good luck getting it past the gate camps. Oh wait, that's what all their alts are for, aren't they? They just blue their own hisec alts so that they can actually move stuff across the gatecamps. Now it makes sense.

lol, you think we use gates.
That's cute.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#57 - 2012-12-25 22:58:04 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
celebro wrote:
Nerf high sec and say bye bye to more than half the playerbase that live there.

Oh for ****'s sake, will you people ever stop with this ridiculous argument?


i concur that this argument is ridiculous.
saw some one in the npc corp today that didn't even realise the bounty system etc had changed.

nerf high sec and 50% of the player base won't even know or realise, let alone cancel their subscription over it.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-12-25 22:59:24 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
celebro wrote:
Nerf high sec and say bye bye to more than half the playerbase that live there.

Oh for ****'s sake, will you people ever stop with this ridiculous argument?



Half is of course exaggerated but whatever the amount of loss in real players/accounts would be I don't think is good for anyone.

Nerf high sec mission payouts didn't fixed low/null

Nerf high sec missions loot didn't fixed mining or low/null

[insert another of the numerous nerfs of high sec] didn't fixed low/null.

And imho no matter how bad the idea is, and you know there is a huge number around about nerf high sec, will ever fix low or null.

But keeps this kind of thread popping dozens of times per year, yeah, awesome emergent game play Lol

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-12-25 23:01:36 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Nerf high sec mission payouts didn't fixed low/null

Because the underlying problems weren't fixed. Did anyone unsubscribe over this?

Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Nerf high sec missions loot didn't fixed mining or low/null

Because the underlying problems weren't fixed. Did anyone unsubscribe over this?

Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
[insert another of the numerous nerfs of high sec] didn't fixed low/null.

Because the underlying problems weren't fixed. Did anyone unsubscribe over this?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#60 - 2012-12-25 23:06:40 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Nerf high sec mission payouts didn't fixed low/null

Because the underlying problems weren't fixed. Did anyone unsubscribe over this?

Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Nerf high sec missions loot didn't fixed mining or low/null

Because the underlying problems weren't fixed. Did anyone unsubscribe over this?

Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
[insert another of the numerous nerfs of high sec] didn't fixed low/null.

Because the underlying problems weren't fixed. Did anyone unsubscribe over this?


so history teaches us that underlying problems were not fixed

guess what you can expect with another nerf?