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Destroyer and battlecruiser skill changes, Time frame?
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#41 - 2012-12-15 19:55:34 UTC
OtoBnAggie wrote:
Escomboli wrote:
Train them now.

Racial Frigs 4 -> Racial Cruisers 3 -> Destroyers 5 -> BC 5

There is no reason NOT to train these skill at this point. That is unless you are a masochist and want to have to train every racial destroyer and BC to 5 after the change.

Hell, I even switched my full cha alt toon from leadership skills to get this done before the change.


Here is the reason NOT to train it. Are you ready? This is what only a couple people on this thread are understanding:
If I am going to spend 20 days training a skill and I don't make the deadline and I lose those skill points then I would rather not train battlecruiser to 5 and use those 20 days of skillpoints on something that will not be taken away from me.

That's why people are freaking out about wanting to know when the date of the change is. It's a lot of if's, but thats the point. This is not being answered by the Devs and so people do not know how to proceed in the most efficient way possible.

As far as I know, there has not been any statement from CCP regarding this specifically. My experience with CCP in the past tells me, that they take skillpoint issues very seriously. So in my opinion it is unlikely, that they would let you "lose" those skillpoints.

The likely thing to happen is, that you are just refunded those skillpoints you trained and that didn't lead in time to another level of the skill.

If you want to be sure, petition your issue with those skillpoints, but without asking for a specific date for the change.

Remove standings and insurance.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-12-15 20:14:48 UTC
OtoBnAggie wrote:
Escomboli wrote:
Train them now.

Racial Frigs 4 -> Racial Cruisers 3 -> Destroyers 5 -> BC 5

There is no reason NOT to train these skill at this point. That is unless you are a masochist and want to have to train every racial destroyer and BC to 5 after the change.

Hell, I even switched my full cha alt toon from leadership skills to get this done before the change.


Here is the reason NOT to train it. Are you ready? This is what only a couple people on this thread are understanding:
If I am going to spend 20 days training a skill and I don't make the deadline and I lose those skill points then I would rather not train battlecruiser to 5 and use those 20 days of skillpoints on something that will not be taken away from me.

That's why people are freaking out about wanting to know when the date of the change is. It's a lot of if's, but thats the point. This is not being answered by the Devs and so people do not know how to proceed in the most efficient way possible.


This change comes after they they have rebalanced T1 Battlecruisers and T1 Battleships.

Do you see any ot the rebalanced battlecruisers or battleships on test server?
No.

Do they need time to test them on test server before release to TQ?
Yes.

Is proper testing possible in 20 days or less?
Most likely not.
OtoBnAggie
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-12-16 01:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: OtoBnAggie
Mara Pahrdi wrote:

My experience with CCP in the past tells me, that they take skillpoint issues very seriously. So in my opinion it is unlikely, that they would let you "lose" those skillpoints.

The likely thing to happen is, that you are just refunded those skillpoints you trained and that didn't lead in time to another level of the skill.


This has been my experience too. I agree that this is most likely.

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Is proper testing possible in 20 days or less?
Most likely not.


I don't have any experience with the test server, but this is good insight. I had no idea it wasnt in testing yet. This is another great peice of speculation. I bet youre right. Thanks!
Cesare Maken
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2012-12-21 22:08:50 UTC
Can I have information about these changes?
Ok now I have all the frigates liv liv 4 all cruisers 4 is all bs of all races after the change as well as adding BC race is racial Destryers there are other changes?
I mean I can fly with all the BS after I can still fly with all the BS I will be deprived of the skill or BS?
I've read various posts but I tell the truth I just had so much confusion.
Thank you for the information I give.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#45 - 2012-12-22 01:04:01 UTC
Oswald XIII
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-12-23 12:57:43 UTC
As a player who just joined with 1.5mil SP to spend as I like, and seeing the BC changes... Yay for me!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#47 - 2012-12-25 20:37:03 UTC
Oswald XIII wrote:
As a player who just joined with 1.5mil SP to spend as I like, and seeing the BC changes... Yay for me!


I've literally never heard anyone ever complain about having BC V trained. Good choice, sir!

(Don't forget the Cruiser skills)

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-12-26 06:33:13 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Oswald XIII wrote:
As a player who just joined with 1.5mil SP to spend as I like, and seeing the BC changes... Yay for me!


I've literally never heard anyone ever complain about having BC V trained. Good choice, sir!

(Don't forget the Cruiser skills)



the nice thing is he kills alot of headaches later in life. The cruiser skills can be fillers as he figures out what BC's he likes. And in time CS's. I sure as hell would not want to retrain BC 5 more than once when say drake lost its thrill and wanted to give canes a go. Or trade in a NH for sleipnir.


Plus with the fun factor of the tier 3's....this jsut a really nice to have skill level now even if no desire to run command ships. Only downside is if you are caldari. The naga at BC 5 makes the rokh seem so meh in comparison damage output wise.
Marr Aridia
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-12-27 07:10:30 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
As in last gazzillion of threads with the same question: no, there is no timeframe nor definitive info on when and exactly how. Except of vague sentence from devblog hinting it would be a good idea to train those skills "soon".


That's why I spent all of December getting Dessies and BC to V. To avoid 'having' this issue in the first place. Get it out of the way sooner rather than later. Do not assume CCP will give you warning..

Most importantly, don't bother unless you actually fly Dessies and BCs.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#50 - 2012-12-27 11:24:33 UTC
The very last of my alts to train BC 5, and the one to start the latest (I really didn't care = lab alt) has under 2 days left.

Seriously, why is this still a topic? Geez, I thought I was a procrastinator.
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