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CEO's Corp Dropping to Avoid War Decs
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Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#1 - 2012-12-25 16:25:06 UTC
It seems odd to me that a CEO can close his corp and instantly build or join another corp without a timer - you can't drop roles and move, but if you destroy your solo tax haven corp and start another you can dodge war decs.

I sort of think we should have a delay timer so people can't just be building lots of crappy little corps that serve no purpose but give them a tax dodge. They aren't using them to enrich other player's experience, which is the ultimate duty of being a CEO.

Ya know in RL to have a corporation you need a support staff, a board of directors, if we made it necessary for corps in eve to have multiple players to begin a corp (maybe 5 toons with certain skills trained) we'd have less crap corps, and possibly insure more corps succeed as any corp needs multiple leaders to manage it.

Just my 2 cent, everyone else can weigh in.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-12-25 17:19:47 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
It seems odd to me that a CEO can close his corp and instantly build or join another corp without a timer - you can't drop roles and move, but if you destroy your solo tax haven corp and start another you can dodge war decs.

I sort of think we should have a delay timer so people can't just be building lots of crappy little corps that serve no purpose but give them a tax dodge. They aren't using them to enrich other player's experience, which is the ultimate duty of being a CEO.

Ya know in RL to have a corporation you need a support staff, a board of directors, if we made it necessary for corps in eve to have multiple players to begin a corp (maybe 5 toons with certain skills trained) we'd have less crap corps, and possibly insure more corps succeed as any corp needs multiple leaders to manage it.

Just my 2 cent, everyone else can weigh in.

Welcome to the many problems with wardecs.

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Evolution1979
Hull Down Inc.
#3 - 2012-12-25 19:12:56 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
I am whining about that a CEO can close his corp and instantly build or join another corp without a timer - you can't drop roles and move, but if you destroy your solo tax haven corp and start another you can dodge war decs.

I sort of think we should have a delay timer so people can't just be building lots of crappy little corps that serve no purpose but give them a tax dodge. We then have to wardec them again, to grief them, wich is costing a lot of isk, whine whine whine

Eve to me is RL and to have a corporation you need a support staff, a board of directors, if we made it necessary for corps in eve to have multiple players to begin a corp (maybe 5 toons with certain skills trained) we'd have less crap corps, and possibly insure more corps succeed as any corp needs multiple leaders to manage it.

Just my 2 cent, everyone else can weigh in.


Translated the most important part of your post for you, so everybody can understand what you are trying to say!
Zekk Pacus
RPS holdings
#4 - 2012-12-25 19:59:55 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:


Ya know in RL to have a corporation you need a support staff, a board of directors, if we made it necessary for corps in eve to have multiple players to begin a corp (maybe 5 toons with certain skills trained) we'd have less crap corps, and possibly insure more corps succeed as any corp needs multiple leaders to manage it.

Just my 2 cent, everyone else can weigh in.


Fine I'll create 4 alts, 2 mission runners and 2 industrialists. Each one will pay for itself and i'll have my 5 man tax haven corp.
Risien Drogonne
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-12-25 21:01:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Risien Drogonne
Ian Harms wrote:
It seems odd to me that a CEO can close his corp and instantly build or join another corp without a timer - you can't drop roles and move, but if you destroy your solo tax haven corp and start another you can dodge war decs.

I sort of think we should have a delay timer so people can't just be building lots of crappy little corps that serve no purpose but give them a tax dodge. They aren't using them to enrich other player's experience, which is the ultimate duty of being a CEO.

Ya know in RL to have a corporation you need a support staff, a board of directors, if we made it necessary for corps in eve to have multiple players to begin a corp (maybe 5 toons with certain skills trained) we'd have less crap corps, and possibly insure more corps succeed as any corp needs multiple leaders to manage it.

Just my 2 cent, everyone else can weigh in.

Whose experience are YOU enriching by wardeccing 1 person?
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#6 - 2012-12-25 21:20:51 UTC
Spoken like a true NPC corp nobody.

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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#7 - 2012-12-25 23:03:29 UTC
A timer on corp dissolution would make sense actually. There's a timer on practically everything else...and at least it would give you the 24 hour window to kill your tax evader. Corp dissolution and recreation is silly, since the dedicated people will keep re-wardeccing anyway.

Also, Evolution, sometimes you can get paid to war dec and target an individual. Happens when people **** others off. It isn't always about "griefing the solo player" as you seem to imply. Retribution and all that.

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Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#8 - 2012-12-26 00:10:02 UTC
War Decs against individual players?

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Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#9 - 2012-12-26 02:02:27 UTC
well 1 in 6 people get it. Not bad actually!

Simply put creating and destroying a corp should not be a whimsical thing. And yes everyone can always do it as an alt thing, however if there where greater delay times in dropping roles/getting out of a corp that's war decced (i.e. officers could not escape quickly if they get their corp war decced) then we could improve the quality of corps there, and anyone that just alts officer their corp and gets war decced cuz they are socially inept (to put it politely) would then find their game time ruined for say 1 week while their corp is disolved etc.

Just and idea, kick it around guys.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#10 - 2012-12-26 04:55:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
Ian Harms wrote:
It seems odd to me that a CEO can close his corp and instantly build or join another corp without a timer - you can't drop roles and move, but if you destroy your solo tax haven corp and start another you can dodge war decs.

I sort of think we should have a delay timer so people can't just be building lots of crappy little corps that serve no purpose but give them a tax dodge. They aren't using them to enrich other player's experience, which is the ultimate duty of being a CEO.

Ya know in RL to have a corporation you need a support staff, a board of directors, if we made it necessary for corps in eve to have multiple players to begin a corp (maybe 5 toons with certain skills trained) we'd have less crap corps, and possibly insure more corps succeed as any corp needs multiple leaders to manage it.

Just my 2 cent, everyone else can weigh in.


You'd just have single players in NPC corps loosely affiliated if you want such an enriched experience then it is up to you, don't like the corp you joined look for one that suits your game play it's easy if you use the recruiting board to put in your desires and see what floats to the top.
at any time anyone can attack anyone in game it's up to you to have the will to do it no war dec needed.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#11 - 2012-12-26 06:09:10 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
War Decs against individual players?


War decs caused by an individual player's actions to be more specific. CEO ship theft from a member is a common one.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-26 10:31:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
Lady Spank wrote:
Spoken like a true NPC corp nobody.

he's still... kinda right... sorta... kinda...


this was a bannable offence some years ago tho, if the guy disbanded and made new corps way too many times that is.

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-12-26 17:35:47 UTC
Shrug and Move on.

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magic preacher
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-12-27 12:01:55 UTC
I think there should be a cost involved in setting up a corp
it costs a bill to set up an alliance why not a smaller cost to start a corp
Gallia Isengrin
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-12-27 12:59:35 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
well 1 in 6 people get it. Not bad actually!

Simply put creating and destroying a corp should not be a whimsical thing. And yes everyone can always do it as an alt thing, however if there where greater delay times in dropping roles/getting out of a corp that's war decced (i.e. officers could not escape quickly if they get their corp war decced) then we could improve the quality of corps there, and anyone that just alts officer their corp and gets war decced cuz they are socially inept (to put it politely) would then find their game time ruined for say 1 week while their corp is disolved etc.

Just and idea, kick it around guys.


Shure. Griefing should stay easy and cheap as fkk. Carebear Ganker Sheep, rofl.
Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
#16 - 2012-12-27 17:29:52 UTC
If you wardec someone or if someone wardecs you and they disolve the corp because of the war. You not only won the war but you stained their employment history forever. Everytime they look at that employment history they are reminded of how much of a wenis they are.
Shaotuk
Sin City Enterprises
#17 - 2012-12-27 18:00:18 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
Ya know in RL to have a corporation you need a support staff, a board of directors,


Not even close to the truth. In real life, you can incorporate yourself, without the need for any additional personnel.
Shylari Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-12-27 18:32:37 UTC
magic preacher wrote:
I think there should be a cost involved in setting up a corp
it costs a bill to set up an alliance why not a smaller cost to start a corp


It does cost a small fee to start a corp.
FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-12-27 20:07:23 UTC
Make it cost 50mil to start a new corp. No timers, no nothin. it costs 50mil to dec them, so the 50mil will mean that the corp dissolver is losing as much as the war deccer is.

Problem solved.

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Elrich Kouvo
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-12-27 21:15:30 UTC
magic preacher wrote:
I think there should be a cost involved in setting up a corp
it costs a bill to set up an alliance why not a smaller cost to start a corp

That is a great idea. I think it would help those who make war dec corps out a whole lot to increase their cost to grief.
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