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The best and only way to nerf highsec
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Hilmar Fudd
Wery Wascally Wabbits
#21 - 2012-12-25 10:56:43 UTC
This is bad....wery, wery bad.

Buff wabbits. Wabbits are compwetely ignored, except for dem Guwista's bunnies.

Who cares about twitanium? Can u eat twit?

Moar wabbits pwease.
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#22 - 2012-12-25 11:00:57 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:

A Retriever full of veldspar (the best ISK/hour) nets you right now 2.5mil to 5mil at best.
And it takes more than an hour to fill it up.


1.veldspar is not the best isk/hour,not even in high sec
2.its more than 2,5-5 mil at best
3.it doesnt take an hour to fill up a retriever

you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers

i call a troll because you have no idea what are you talking about,your figures are all wrong as if you pulled them out of your bottom

well done troll,you got me

/thread
Josef Djugashvilis
#23 - 2012-12-25 11:16:36 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Nerf idiots.


It was being nerfed that made me an idiot in the first place.

If I get nerfed any more I will have the ability to enjoy mining.

This is not a signature.
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#24 - 2012-12-25 11:28:00 UTC
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:

A Retriever full of veldspar (the best ISK/hour) nets you right now 2.5mil to 5mil at best.
And it takes more than an hour to fill it up.


1.veldspar is not the best isk/hour,not even in high sec
2.its more than 2,5-5 mil at best
3.it doesnt take an hour to fill up a retriever

you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers

i call a troll because you have no idea what are you talking about,your figures are all wrong as if you pulled them out of your bottom

well done troll,you got me

/thread

Haha no.
I spent a good part of my time in EVE mining.
You know what's the best ISK/hour?
Scordite, veldspar right behind it.

Second, if it did more than 5 mil I would still be mining

And I timed, with two strip miners it took me two hours.

"you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers"
Yes, because a miner/trader/manufacturer that spends most of his time doing it, AND did a bunch of tests doesn't know jack ****.

Call troll all you want, its not true.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-12-25 11:47:21 UTC
When CCP is going to redesign pos they should just remove all manufacturing, research and refining from npc stations, and make it a service players can sell to other players.

Maybe go back to some system like the old pos fuel, where the fuel price increase depending on how many modules are installed in the pos. While being a logistic nightmare, it would increase the price of industry and research.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#26 - 2012-12-25 12:14:30 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:

A Retriever full of veldspar (the best ISK/hour) nets you right now 2.5mil to 5mil at best.
And it takes more than an hour to fill it up.


1.veldspar is not the best isk/hour,not even in high sec
2.its more than 2,5-5 mil at best
3.it doesnt take an hour to fill up a retriever

you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers

i call a troll because you have no idea what are you talking about,your figures are all wrong as if you pulled them out of your bottom

well done troll,you got me

/thread

Haha no.
I spent a good part of my time in EVE mining.
You know what's the best ISK/hour?
Scordite, veldspar right behind it.

Second, if it did more than 5 mil I would still be mining

And I timed, with two strip miners it took me two hours.

"you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers"
Yes, because a miner/trader/manufacturer that spends most of his time doing it, AND did a bunch of tests doesn't know jack ****.

Call troll all you want, its not true.


i dont know where do you get those figures from - probably as u used to mine in the past?

things have changed,your figures are wrong

the only thing you are right about is scordite and thats only after i corrected you

whatever dude you live in the past,your figures are outdated,i suggest you do some math before you talk BS,i know ignorance is a bliss but not here
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#27 - 2012-12-25 12:22:51 UTC
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:

A Retriever full of veldspar (the best ISK/hour) nets you right now 2.5mil to 5mil at best.
And it takes more than an hour to fill it up.


1.veldspar is not the best isk/hour,not even in high sec
2.its more than 2,5-5 mil at best
3.it doesnt take an hour to fill up a retriever

you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers

i call a troll because you have no idea what are you talking about,your figures are all wrong as if you pulled them out of your bottom

well done troll,you got me

/thread

Haha no.
I spent a good part of my time in EVE mining.
You know what's the best ISK/hour?
Scordite, veldspar right behind it.

Second, if it did more than 5 mil I would still be mining

And I timed, with two strip miners it took me two hours.

"you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers"
Yes, because a miner/trader/manufacturer that spends most of his time doing it, AND did a bunch of tests doesn't know jack ****.

Call troll all you want, its not true.


i dont know where do you get those figures from - probably as u used to mine in the past?

things have changed,your figures are wrong

the only thing you are right about is scordite and thats only after i corrected you

whatever dude you live in the past,your figures are outdated,i suggest you do some math before you talk BS,i know ignorance is a bliss but not here


I was mining during the Inferno update.
So unless mining got completly overhauled during Retribution, my figures are right.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#28 - 2012-12-25 12:31:33 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:

A Retriever full of veldspar (the best ISK/hour) nets you right now 2.5mil to 5mil at best.
And it takes more than an hour to fill it up.


1.veldspar is not the best isk/hour,not even in high sec
2.its more than 2,5-5 mil at best
3.it doesnt take an hour to fill up a retriever

you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers

i call a troll because you have no idea what are you talking about,your figures are all wrong as if you pulled them out of your bottom

well done troll,you got me

/thread

Haha no.
I spent a good part of my time in EVE mining.
You know what's the best ISK/hour?
Scordite, veldspar right behind it.

Second, if it did more than 5 mil I would still be mining

And I timed, with two strip miners it took me two hours.

"you dont know jack sjit about mining or market prices or mining barges or mining lasers"
Yes, because a miner/trader/manufacturer that spends most of his time doing it, AND did a bunch of tests doesn't know jack ****.

Call troll all you want, its not true.


i dont know where do you get those figures from - probably as u used to mine in the past?

things have changed,your figures are wrong

the only thing you are right about is scordite and thats only after i corrected you

whatever dude you live in the past,your figures are outdated,i suggest you do some math before you talk BS,i know ignorance is a bliss but not here


I was mining during the Inferno update.
So unless mining got completly overhauled during Retribution, my figures are right.


they are wrong

i can currently fill a retriever (24200m) in 28 minutes

now mind you my skills arent anywhere near perfect,no lvl 5 skills and i use strip miners I

so with perfect skills + drones + crystals i guess you could fill a retriever in around 21 minutes,by my calculations that would make AT LEAST 15M isk per hour
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-12-25 12:43:11 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:

I'm currently stationed in Romi where my corp has a high sec PoS, and i'm the industry leader of it.


So, the proposition is that they should buff your circumstance relative to NPC stations "for the good of the game"?
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#30 - 2012-12-25 12:47:33 UTC
And why not make the outposts as good as the high sec stations in term of slots and refine rate(you know add some upgrades).

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-12-25 12:55:18 UTC
If you haven't figured it out already then allow me to explain it.

Null is about P2W. You're not out there to just pay your sub and play the game. That is, of course, unless you're one of the lucky few of the alliance leaders who have actually convinced their underlings that moon-goo is for alliance finances only and are able to use it as their own personal slush fund.

No, instead you're out there to put your caps on your plastic unless you stick your head far enough up the alliance leadership's arses to get them to support your game play. M'kay?

If you're going to null and expecting to fund your game farming then enjoy your 6mos DT while you work to afford another cap.

Don't ban me, bro!
Dave Stark
#32 - 2012-12-25 13:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Cat Troll wrote:

I was mining during the Inferno update.
So unless mining got completly overhauled during Retribution, my figures are right.


your figures are as right as i am when i say "the sky is made of cheese"

6.3m per can of kernite, 20 mins (23 mins with t1 strips) to fill a retriever, 18.9m isk per hour.

takes about 30 seconds to do the correct maths and not look like a moron insisting you're right instead of actually researching the topic being discussed.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#33 - 2012-12-25 13:02:59 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
If you haven't figured it out already then allow me to explain it.

Null is about P2W. You're not out there to just pay your sub and play the game. That is, of course, unless you're one of the lucky few of the alliance leaders who have actually convinced their underlings that moon-goo is for alliance finances only and are able to use it as their own personal slush fund.

No, instead you're out there to put your caps on your plastic unless you stick your head far enough up the alliance leadership's arses to get them to support your game play. M'kay?

If you're going to null and expecting to fund your game farming then enjoy your 6mos DT while you work to afford another cap.

That's odd, it doesn't seem that hard to me.

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Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2012-12-25 13:25:51 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:
So unless mining got completly overhauled during Retribution, my figures are right.


Cat Troll wrote:
You know what's the best ISK/hour? Scordite, veldspar right behind it.


Veldspar is not the number 2 ore to mine in High-sec; in fact, it is the worst. Kernite is what you want. If that's been raped out of system, then Pyroxeres/Plagioclase would be next. The only thing that Veldspar has is its abundance.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Etherealclams
#35 - 2012-12-25 13:47:49 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:
You are welcome to figure out who my alt is.

P.S

You will never find him because this is my only character.


Yeah, Because people name their main characters "Cat Troll".

http://aclamthatrants.blogspot.com/ Read up on my adventures.
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#36 - 2012-12-25 13:52:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Troll
Malphilos wrote:

So, the proposition is that they should buff your circumstance relative to NPC stations "for the good of the game"?

No actually, the only reason I mentioned this was because that people thought I was from null sec.
This was never in my mind while writing this post.

Etherealclams wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:
You are welcome to figure out who my alt is.

P.S

You will never find him because this is my only character.


Yeah, Because people name their main characters "Cat Troll".


People who like to troll their cats do.
My other two characters that the only reason they exist was because I wanted to reserve the name:
Kenneth Donnelly and Vortigaunt all knowing.
They're still sitting in some newbie system and didn't even get a rookie ship.

Etherealclams wrote:

Veldspar is not the number 2 ore to mine in High-sec; in fact, it is the worst. Kernite is what you want. If that's been raped out of system, then Pyroxeres/Plagioclase would be next. The only thing that Veldspar has is its abundance.


Hmm, I guess the figures I read were false.
My bad.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-12-25 13:59:06 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:
Malphilos wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:

I'm currently stationed in Romi where my corp has a high sec PoS, and i'm the industry leader of it.


So, the proposition is that they should buff your circumstance relative to NPC stations "for the good of the game"?

No actually, the only reason I mentioned this was because that people thought I was from null sec.
This was never in my mind while writing this post.


I understand. Just a happy coincidence that it works out that way.
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#38 - 2012-12-25 14:01:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Troll
Malphilos wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:
Malphilos wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:

I'm currently stationed in Romi where my corp has a high sec PoS, and i'm the industry leader of it.


So, the proposition is that they should buff your circumstance relative to NPC stations "for the good of the game"?

No actually, the only reason I mentioned this was because that people thought I was from null sec.
This was never in my mind while writing this post.


I understand. Just a happy coincidence that it works out that way.


I also written that High sec PoS's would be limited compared to what stations were, so if I was really trying to say something for my benefit I wouldn't try to nerf myself now would I?

Dave stark wrote:

your figures are as right as i am when i say "the sky is made of cheese"

6.3m per can of kernite, 20 mins (23 mins with t1 strips) to fill a retriever, 18.9m isk per hour.

takes about 30 seconds to do the correct maths and not look like a moron insisting you're right instead of actually researching the topic being discussed.


Didn't do the math, I looked at a clock >_>

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Dave Stark
#39 - 2012-12-25 14:28:46 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

your figures are as right as i am when i say "the sky is made of cheese"

6.3m per can of kernite, 20 mins (23 mins with t1 strips) to fill a retriever, 18.9m isk per hour.

takes about 30 seconds to do the correct maths and not look like a moron insisting you're right instead of actually researching the topic being discussed.


Didn't do the math, I looked at a clock >_>


please, never post again.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#40 - 2012-12-25 15:08:40 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Cat Troll wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

your figures are as right as i am when i say "the sky is made of cheese"

6.3m per can of kernite, 20 mins (23 mins with t1 strips) to fill a retriever, 18.9m isk per hour.

takes about 30 seconds to do the correct maths and not look like a moron insisting you're right instead of actually researching the topic being discussed.

Didn't do the math, I looked at a clock >_>

please, never post again.

This might be good advice.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?