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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-12-14 22:47:47 UTC
Sered Woollahra wrote:
@ Grim Temar, have you tried running repair.exe? Worked for me.


Not Grim alt whatsoever but flowing this thread with high interest.

As stated before I have several stability issues, this workaround could be some "A" solution if the same machine using Vista32 in another hard drive wouldn't run Eve (almost) perfectly as it does, which means it has nothing to do with hardware problems or connection/isp issues.

Win8 seems to take over "some stuff" and uses whatever drivers (directx11???) despite whatever Eve commands, I'm not computer expert but this illogical stuff (as per usual with stuff done by nerds...) has no head or shoulders and even less feet so we could at least point at something and say "haha, yer ****** stuff gotcha", no, there's nothing I can do other than run Eve with vista 32....awesome stuff is probably not that awesome.

Any news from CCP dudes?


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Uliq Qel-Droma
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-12-15 22:36:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Uliq Qel-Droma
DJMase2k4 wrote:
Having major graphical glitches with windows 8 in eve. It runs but it makes my eyes hurt right now.
The issue what I am getting is crazy colors like it is running almost in a different bit mode. I have no idea why though.

My system is as follows

Asus P67 Deluxe
I7 2600k
16gb Ram
2x HD6970
SSD and HDD
Graphic driver is 12.11


I am having the same issue as this fellow... only I'm on windows 7 64bit. I can confirm if i disable crossfire the problem goes away. I had to roll back to catalyst 12.8 whql to remove the problem. I am sorry for posting here this seems to be the only thread I can find where other users are experiencing the graphical problems with latest drivers.
My system is as follows..

MSI P67a-DG65 (B3)
I7 2600k
16gb Ram
2x HD7970
SSD and HDD
Graphic driver is 12.11 beta 8
MajorFuzz
Llamas w Hats Industries
OnlyHoles
#43 - 2012-12-18 11:51:10 UTC
soldieroffortune 258 wrote:
Had a slight problem. Not 100% that its Windows 8 related.

Would click on EVE icon on desktop, and it would open up the launcher. Would then click the 'Play' button and it would 'depress' like I actually clicked it, but nothing happened. The odd part is, the night before, I was playing EVE, running 2 accts simultaneously, the launcher just stopped functioning.

The workaround if anyone should have this issue:

Go into your CCP folder in Program files ->EVE -> bin -> EXEfile




My problem with windows 8 was that I would try to run the eve launcher for the first time, and it completely crashed my computer to the point of where it did an immediate restart. After running the repair tool and everything checked out ok, I went to run eve in both "safe mode" and normal launcher yet it would give an error message [u]:

"See the logfile'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\launcher\launcher.exe.log' for details"

Looked at the forums and although our problems are different, running the client directly seems to have allowed me to play the game. Here are my system specs as requested.
Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
Model: Satellite L875D
Processor: AMD A6-4400M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics 2.7 GHz
Installed Memory (RAM): 6.00 Gb (5.46 usable)
System Type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-Based Processor

If this helps, let me know. Thank you.
If I have anymore issues, I will let you fine folks at CCP know.
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-12-19 15:39:21 UTC
Hazen Koraka wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
on windows 8 64 bit, latest graphics card drivers, retribution install is currently exiting the exeFile automatically every time i try to run it from the launcher. If i run it directly it does not work either.

running the exefile from the launcher or directly with windows xp service pack 3 compatibility mode works, running from windows 7 compatibility does not work


Which graphics card do you have, and what drivers?


EVGA 570ti, latest drivers as of a week ago. I believe new drivers have just been released a day or two ago so i will check and try it out without the compatibility settings afterwords.

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Midas Man
Dzark Asylum
#45 - 2012-12-19 19:31:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Midas Man
I upgraded to Windows 8 a few months ago. Not a problem so far until today and I'm using the same install from win 7. but the patch failed today may not be a windows 8 issue but here's the log in-case you interested:

No handlers could be found for logger "overrides"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "launcher.py", line 15, in module
File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
File "lib\ui\launcherApp.pyc", line 10, in module
File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
File "lib\ui\frame.pyc", line 20, in module
File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
File "lib\ui\eveSettingsDialog.pyc", line 9, in module
File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
File "lib\userSettings.pyc", line 8, in module
File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
File "lib\info.pyc", line 17, in module
ImportError: No module named email.utils

Edit, running the repair fix the issue and has patched fine now. So still no Win 8 problems Not just in Eve either so for once Microsoft have done a good job for a change :-) IMO atleast
john ricar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-12-22 01:30:54 UTC
I just got a new laptop with windows 8 already installed and I tried loading eve onto it using the quantum rise cd download and the patch update after. It took the quantum rise but it wont do the patch update. I just saw the forums on this and thought id let you know what I did. so when do we expect to find out when a patch has been done for eve to be used on windows 8?
Tycho Antus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-12-22 03:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tycho Antus
Hi
The CCP.exe crash and go back to windows. It could happen some times in few minutes, or I can be quiet for all the evening.
It often happened when I launch 2 eve client

My PC:
Alienware X51
Windows8
Direct X11
Intel Core i5 3330 CPU @3GHz, 4 cores
RAM 8Go
NVIDIA Gforce GT 640, 1Go

Tycho Antus

Former Captain in the Federation Navy

Chief Executive Officer of Reclamation Technologies
Servjen
Giant Industrials
Center for Digital Chemistry
#48 - 2012-12-22 19:54:40 UTC
Hey all,

Just bought a new computer with a fresh instalation of windowds 8 with up to date drivers and for me it runs as smood as possible. At this point i can run six accounts at the same time with al settings at max. even when in QC.

My system is as follows:
intel core I7 2.2ghz
nvidia geforce GT 630M 1G
6Gb DDR3 Memory

EDIT: And DirectX 11

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FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#49 - 2012-12-22 21:34:24 UTC
Had no OS specific issues since switching to Windows 8. Last patch resulted in an error and inability to load but the repair tool solved this. A friend on similar hardware and running Windows 7 had similar issues.

3 monitor setup - 2 clients usually running.

AMD X6 1090T 3.6GHz Black Edition
8 GB RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6850
AMD Radeon HD 6450
DirectX 11

Not going to try and convince anyone to change their minds but so far my experience with Windows 8 has been fairly positive. I got the pro version for a hard to resist $15 and for the first few days I found all the changes a bit hard to work with. After a couple of days I got used to the changes and after a couple of months I can't really see myself going back to 7. Any issues I've had have usually been solved by just running programs as admin.

Before I gave it a go I thought it sounded horrible. After trying it I feel I over reacted.

John Ricar: I wouldn't have even tried to patch from Quantum Rise. I wouldn't have thought that would have worked on any other version of windows with all the changes to the way eve updates itself. If you can spare the bandwidtch you are probably better off just downloading a fresh client. If you can't maybe you can get hold of a friends copy?
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#50 - 2012-12-22 22:21:14 UTC
Well some feedback to the OP:

So far so good with Windows 8 64bit Pro.

No real problems, although I'm currently having some issues with EVE Voice - namely the Push to talk keeps cutting out even though I have the talk key depressed. I'm assuming this is a Windows 8 issue, because it was fine on XP 64 Pro before.

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FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#51 - 2012-12-23 03:55:03 UTC
I sometimes have issues with PTT on TS3 and Ventrilo. I know with those programs it is solved by running the program as admin.
ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-12-23 11:40:10 UTC
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Zae'dra Xanthe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-12-23 14:23:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Zae'dra Xanthe
NVM fixed my issue. Just to let you all know:

TeamSpeak with the overlay plugun will not let EVE run. When starting eve, make sure there is no teamspeak with the TS overlay plugin running, or you wont be able to run the game in W8.
Axxum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2012-12-23 22:06:10 UTC
Just got a brand new computer with Windows 8 and having issues with Eve client crashing often. Seems to happen under following circumstances specifically when I have 2 clients running:

1. At initial login just after selecting the character to log into
2. When undocking,
3. When starting a mission, just as targeting begins

I have graphics settings mixed between max and medium (tried all low too) and I have HD off. Both clients in windowed mode.

HP Envy Phoenix
OS Name Microsoft Windows 8
Version 6.2.9200 Build 9200
System Model h9-1355
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date AMI 8.11, 10/23/2012
SMBIOS Version 2.7
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer PEGATRON CORPORATION
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 12.0 GB

-Graphics-
Name AMD Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_683D&SUBSYS_6887103C&REV_00\4&7188812&0&0008
Adapter Type AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x683D), Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. compatible
Adapter Description AMD Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition
Adapter RAM (2,147,483,648) bytes
Installed Drivers aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver Version 8.982.10.6000
INF File oem35.inf (ati2mtag_R575A section)
Color Planes Not Available
Color Table Entries Not Available
Resolution Not Available
Bits/Pixel Not Available
Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xEFFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xF7E00000-0xF7EFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000E000-0x0000EFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 4294967292
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atikmpag.sys (8.14.1.6268, 362.00 KB (370,688 bytes), 9/22/2012 3:02 AM)
David Goldline
Lonestar Distribution Inc.
#55 - 2012-12-25 12:38:58 UTC
It worked just fine for 3 days then Eve client started failing to load often or wouldn't start at all. the patcher/Launcher failed to load. The repairer failed also. I dont know what else todo..

Separate matter under windows 7 Clean install , fresh download of Retribution im getting CRC errors cant install game. ( 5 hour download done 3 times )


System Manufacturer: ASUS
System Model: P7P55 WS Supercomputer
BIOS: BIOS Date: 06/03/11 15:56:28 Ver: 08.00.15
Processor: Intel Core i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz (quad core)
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8190MB RAM
Page File: 2359MB used, 14018MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 430
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GT 430
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DE1&SUBSYS_082810DE&REV_A1
Display Memory: 4050 MB
Dedicated Memory: 978 MB
Shared Memory: 3072 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor Model: DELL SE198WFP
Warlord3k
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#56 - 2012-12-25 20:20:54 UTC
I did a clean Windows 7 Ultimate 64 install. Upgraded to Windows 8 Pro 64.
Downloaded updated nvidia drivers. Updated everything else..

Game still crash after a random time playing.. from 10 seconds to 5 minutes.. This freeze the whole laptop.

Laptop is Asus K50i
Nvidia Geforce GT 320M 1GB
8 GB RAM
128 GB SSD
Too lazy to open to look at CPU.

But with windows 7 installed, I can run Eve with no problem whatsoever. So must be something with that combination Windows 8, Asus K50i and Eve..

The crash I experienced with the Win 8 beta too..
Natalie Cerulean
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-12-27 01:59:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Natalie Cerulean
I'm having a similar problem as one of the users on the first page with two computers running intel GPU's. This is not a new problem as it happened in windows 7 too. Whenever you alt+tab or close out of the game, the colors on the desktop go neon colors. The issue now however is that the fix that worked in windows 7 (disabling aero and re-enabling, or running the game in windows basic) is no longer viable.

This is almost certainly an issue with the way Eve/Intel drivers/Intel GPU interact and like I said it is not a new issue but the fix to the issue is now gone because of MS ridding windows 8 of any sort of "windows classic"-ness. The gpu's in question are not new enough to get new drivers for windows 8 but even when they were running the drivers for windows 7 the problem was still there.

I can grab dxdiag/gpu-z/etc dumps if you're interested but, I'm not sure about this one getting fixed since its such an old issue. It's only recently became a problem due to the "easy-fix" being gone.

Googling around has got me nothing other than that restarting it fixes it. If you could end the DWM process that might fix it but I have no idea what thats going to do to windows.

Edit: I'm also consistently crashing when I alt+tab on my Sager laptop with 9800m gpu. Drivers are updated on that one.

Edit 2: Found a work around for the first issue, after killing the dwm process, it fixed the colors for me.

1. Right Click Taskbar->Task Manager
2. Find "Desktop Windows Manager" in the task list (should be in the second half) and right click it->Go To Process
3. End the Process Tree
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-12-27 15:30:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
Natalie Cerulean wrote:

I can grab dxdiag/gpu-z/etc dumps if you're interested but, I'm not sure about this one getting fixed since its such an old issue. It's only recently became a problem due to the "easy-fix" being gone.


Tested with all Guru3D available versions to try to fix my main issue and does absolutely nothing.

CPU/Mem use is about 3% with single client running and unless Eve requires 1GB internet bandwidth, which I strongly doubt, this is not even possibly the explanation to my problem.
GC GPU/mem is never stressed continuously but only by spikes going from 25/30% to 100% making my travels nice and simple with or without all settings on top and become a strobe nightmare if there's more than a couple ships on grid, forget even a lvl3 mission, gate camp, fleet or simply cross at the gate more than 2 ships, it's 80's strobe funky time.

However, initial problem about screen getting all black but still showing grid/hud is gone for me.
->Randomly at undock or gate jumping hud shows 30% dmg shields/hull/structure is still present
->cargo or windows not remembering their previous position still happens, randomly without any sort of specific behavior

While this would be less of a problem if I was playing in high sec because there's always some low risk activity, this is absolutely nasty and the best medicine against null sec playing, I'm stuck for weeks now not being able to play and still no solution, workaround or little word from CCP guys kinda like "heya guys we're aware of your shift, be patient we're dealing with"

Sad panda

Edit: rig already posted a couple pages before and Win8 64 pro full updated, latest Nvidia and other hardware drivers on top.

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Ruban Spangler
TEMPLAR.
The Initiative.
#59 - 2012-12-29 23:33:17 UTC
Under Windows 8 the TeamSpeak 3 Overlay plugin can prevent a second eve client opening on the same machine. For example if I start one client then join TS3 with the Overlay the launcher will fail to open a second client. Close ts3 and it opens fine.

It can be inconsistent. If TS3 is open it can stop any eve instance opening. Other times the overlay will prevent you typing in your password on the log in screen (you have to click on the overlay first).

I'm assuming these are all Windows8/TS3 issues. I've no issues to report with the eve client itself
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-12-30 15:16:42 UTC
Can we have a word from CCP guys about this PLZ??

Would be nice.

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