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Two Best expansions and the two worst expansions

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#41 - 2012-12-24 11:00:13 UTC
Only joined late 2010, so I have not seen that much of the game. Of the five expansions I've seen, Crucible and Retribution were easily the best with Crucible coming out at the head.

Worst was Incarna.

But Incursion is lacking in many ways too. CCP almost completely missed the many chances this expansion offered for both immersive and emergent gameplay. It really is a pity. And it showed, that CCP is somewhat lacking in capabilities to design PvE gameplay and to integrate it with all the rest of EVE.

Remove standings and insurance.

Anne-Louise Chasse
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-12-24 12:04:10 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Only joined late 2010, so I have not seen that much of the game. Of the five expansions I've seen, Crucible and Retribution were easily the best with Crucible coming out at the head.

Worst was Incarna.

But Incursion is lacking in many ways too. CCP almost completely missed the many chances this expansion offered for both immersive and emergent gameplay. It really is a pity. And it showed, that CCP is somewhat lacking in capabilities to design PvE gameplay and to integrate it with all the rest of EVE.


Incursion, true, but I think it was not CCP guilt. Nullsec killed incursions. I think thy killed avatars too as I don't know one in hisec that wants a FPS for avatars.

Incarna is by far the worst thing they have done because they took our money for years, we did not get anything in return and now they want to wait two years to see that either create the next version of vaporware with avatars. What?

But a FPS means to redo from scratch avatars because you can not use people dressed in clothes, you have to create people dressed in armor so FPS means actually start over from scratch. The CQ is no good, no good current avatars, everything is useless, so they will not do anything more with avatars, even missing tattoos, or missing clothing. All they have to delete the CQ and avatars and that's it, Incarna never existed!

Just delete a few databases and Incarna be as forgotten as the people who had to lay off.
Myyona
Ataraxia Pharmacies
#43 - 2012-12-24 12:09:19 UTC
Best: Apocrypha and Revelations. Because of the massive improvements they brought to all kind of playing styles and even added a few more.

Worst: Incarna and Tyrannis. For promising the world and delivering little to nothing.

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Elrich Kouvo
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-12-24 12:26:21 UTC
Best: Red Moon

Worst: Everything after it
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-12-24 13:13:46 UTC
Going to throw in my 0.02isk despite only being around since Tyrannis.


Best:
Crucible - You fixed blasters and buffed rails. I am eternally grateful. Nothing compares to this.
Retribution - New bounty system is nice, but tbh all the others have been a bit mediocre.

Worst:
Everything else I've seen really. I didn't really hate incarna, I thought it was neat, but it was lacking. Inferno too was a bit boring.

EDIT: Although, now I say that, missile effects...

Dodixie > Hek

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#46 - 2012-12-24 14:39:05 UTC
Soma Khan wrote:
surprised not to see tyrannis being mentioned as one of the worst. easily second to incarna


Because Incarna and Dominion make Tyrannis look almost good in comparison.

We got lol carpal tunnel circles but at least they *work*.
BrutalButFair
Fleet of the Damned
#47 - 2012-12-24 15:02:32 UTC
only best for me is Apocrypha because it really brought new content and i don't consider retribution as an expansion because it's only an improvement of existing things and 1 new ship which really doesn't contribute much. (Don't get me wrong. The improvement's are top notch but nothing new) So it is the best patch for me ;) But that goes for all ballancing patches i suppose.

I think incarna was even better because it was what ccp always envisioned. An mmo experience on all fronts be it in space (eve) as well on land (dust) or in stations (walking in stations) although incarna seemed pushed and ofcourse the p2w was a bad choice.

Dominion would be the worst because of sov changes which still isn't working.

lisa 8
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-12-24 15:12:18 UTC  |  Edited by: lisa 8
Best
Apocrypha
Red Moon

Worst:
Tyrannis
Incarna

Lets not forget, Retribution wasnt so much a expansion, it was used to fix of things & rebalance other things, that the community had told CCP repeatedly were wrong & should of been fixed long ago, even then it only scratched the surface of that list.
The new destroyers were nice, but they too still need their sig radius fixed, inorder to be really useful.
The next expansion is likely to look at POS's, Sov & more in depth with tieracide & skillpoints. Only time will tell if it will signal a return to a real multi system release, which have been defining benchmarks of the best.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#49 - 2012-12-24 15:19:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Best expansions:
Red Moon Rising (Gimmeh Supers - That is all)
Incarna (Space Boobies - Nuff said)
Tyrannis (PI !!!!)

Worst expansions:
Everything after Incarna (Shelving of WiS, no planet gameplay, no avatar gameplay, no more boobies, empty CQs, 6 years of now empty promises regarding ambulations, rehashed same old FiS crap over and over again... no new Jesus features.. and so on.)

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#50 - 2012-12-24 15:19:42 UTC
Best:

Retribution - an actual expansion that has added so much content for non-2003 toons.
Crucible - the expansion I (re)started on, tier3 BCs, and it showed CCP had finally removed their heads from their arses.

Worst:

Incarna - I have never seen a games company go so pants-on-head ******** before, it lead to a full biomass of every toon I had.
Inferno - it added a new login background. That's pretty much it.
Anne-Louise Chasse
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-12-24 17:40:05 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Best expansions:
Red Moon Rising (Gimmeh Supers - That is all)
Incarna (Space Boobies - Nuff said)
Tyrannis (PI !!!!)

Worst expansions:
Everything after Incarna (Shelving of WiS, no planet gameplay, no avatar gameplay, no more boobies, empty CQs, 6 years of now empty promises regarding ambulations, rehashed same old FiS crap over and over again... no new Jesus features.. and so on.)


Really, the new avatars came with Incursion, not Incarna.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-12-24 18:08:23 UTC
I must say that Incarna was, by far, the best expansion ever for reasons i will tell you.

First of all, it's codename was *my* (real) first name.
Second ... it got deployed on *my* birthday !
(talk about coincidences)

Third ... damn ... what i *always* wanted was a revolution to start on my birthday
and CCP managed to bring me exactly that ! Maybe not deliberately, but who cares. ^_^


That was some strange day. ^_^
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#53 - 2012-12-24 18:49:09 UTC
Best: Exodus, Apocrypha (which the devs have sworn they will never, ever do again. Then they wonder why membership is stagnant)

Worst: Incarna (fried video cards), Trinity (boot.ini anyone?)

But 7 years on, and I still play EVE. I must be a masochist.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#54 - 2012-12-24 19:40:28 UTC
Crucible and Retri for my best (though I think our best is yet to come!)

Incarna and Mists of Pandaria for the other question Big smile

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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#55 - 2012-12-24 20:49:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
I will play the Devils“ Advocate here and say the best expansion was Incarna!

It delivered hours and hours of funny entertainment: Not the game itself, of course, walking in that dreadful looking Minmatar CQ was fun for five minutes at most, but the forum rage itself (that certainly provided lots of entertainment as such).

Ah, and that memorable post by a Dev himself that "they are too busy locking the rage-threads to do anything else" or something to this effect... which of course caused another outcry by the community.

But most importantly, without all the rage-threads, I would never have heard about My Little Pony - or at least not at that time - with all the Pony pics that were posted on the forums. Big smile




Seriously though, I am not long enough in this game to have experienced many expansions, but of those the current one seems best: mostly interesting and new stuff with only a few things that need polishing (sound, I am looking at you!)

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Gothikia
Le Goobers
#56 - 2012-12-24 20:52:49 UTC
Well, lets be honest, two of each option isn't enough. Let's make it three!

Best:

Retribution
Apocrypha
Revelations

Worst:

Exodus
Red Moon Rising
Dominion

<3 Gothie

naed21
Iron Knights
#57 - 2012-12-24 21:10:33 UTC
The Best Expansion was Apocrypha

Nothing can compare to what that achieved.

NOTHING

(Except a POS revamp)
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#58 - 2012-12-24 21:53:22 UTC
Best

Empyrean Age (yay faction wars)
Apocrypha (yay wormholes and strat cruisers)

Worst

Taranis (underwhelming delivery)
Incarna (just, lol)

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#59 - 2012-12-24 22:22:30 UTC
Notice how Apocrypha is leading in the best choice, hint hint CCP.

Best:
Apocrypha
Trinity

Worst:
Quantum Rise(Though the trailer was cool)
Incarna

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MSC Darklord
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#60 - 2012-12-25 01:54:21 UTC
Best 2:

Shiva for the major UI changes, I mean, not having to switch between low slots, mid slots and high slots?

Apocrypha: Content


Worst:
Incarna
Tyrannis


I'd like to add Retribution as 3rd best, it really brought me back to the game.