EVE General Discussion

Im kinda surprised how WRONG you managed to get it.

Really, you must be some seriously special snowflake..

That'd be really cool actually. Secret smuggler stargates that you need to have like, high pirate faction standings or low sec status to use, to sneak around for gankage and slipping drugs into highsec.

Lowsec in general needs a HUGE buff. While FW is fun and entertaining (for a time), it also feels somewhat pointless (there's no way to actually win the war) and a bit like Nullsec Lite with how you're trying to keep up sov and upgrades constantly. So there really needs to be more things in lowsec other than FW. The idea of hidden smuggler gates that connect to other lowsec or even null is pretty appealing. It would also be cool to move more things relevant to booster production to low-sec, such as more clouds that produce things higher-grade than synth. Give people a REASON to live in lowsec so they don't have to depend on hisec at all, and then from there connect lowsec as the OP suggests.

Living only in hisec is viable.
Living only in nullsec is viable.
Why do lowsec players have to depend on the others? Let us thrive in lowsec with more viability, and connect it all so we don't have to enter hisec. I really wanna see things like lowsec trade hubs be a big thing.

In order for the "If you make it easier to travel there will be nothing but napblobs" argument seriously, there would need to be NAPblobs in lowsec NOW within the areas that ARE easier to travel around. I live in the Amarr-Minmatar warzone, which is decently easy to travel within. Why aren't all the pirates there blued up? I've also flown around a good bit up in Placid/Black Rise, and the pirates around there aren't all blued up either. If they were, that argument might hold water, but they're very clearly not. Adding a few gates will not suddenly and magically make everyone decide to blue up.

Scale up lowsec by interconecting now isolated areas of space and you'll scale up the level of conflict. Projection of power using titans will become much more essential. The alliances that want small-scale pvp will perish. You don't want bluefest or blobwarfare? You think we want it in nullsec? Adapt or perish.

this is the way it should have been since the beginning, but with the current iteration of gates its impossible, maybe on a few more years once we get rid of gates and we get system to system jumps ala Sins of a Solar Empire.

the grav well idea of that game is nothing short of genius. and completely negates any argument of "well the gates are there so people shoot each other."

As a 100% pvp dude, the rancer pipe is very self-defeating when it comes to encouraging lowsec activity. What if there was another quick caldari->minmatar lowsec route? multiple pipes would either cut down on the camping and make it actually possible to travel the rancer pipe, or just add a second system to camp, which would still create another conflict point and camp point. Either way there's more activity in lowsec.

This doesn't necessarily need to be done for every lowsec pipe but rancer in particular is, as i said self-defeating in that it's so infmaous that lots of people, such as me, avoid it, specifically because of how huge of a bottleneck it is

Originally I liked this idea, then I had people explain to me why it didn't work.
From what I understand, it used to be that highsec was all pockets separated by lowsec and it caused a lot of problems with traveling, because of mineral and BPO distribution, there effectively could only be one trade hub, Yulai, huge swaths of highsec, entire empires, were completely empty and unused, whole regions were barren because there was no moderately safe way for the industry there to support itself. With the addition of blockade runners and jump freighters since then, it might be doable, especially if ship/module build materials were tweaked so that you could for instance, build and fit an Amarr ship with all Amarrish equipment entirely within Amarr space. But it would take a major industry overhaul and would have to be done very very carefully.