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Defending a sitting duck

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Alpharius Aleutinus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-24 09:52:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpharius Aleutinus
Lets assume after a wormhole site there are lots of wrecks and a noctis/other salvager is needed. What tactics/other ship can be employed to dissuade covops bombers from attacking(apart from aligning fittings for salvager). Would a stand by pvp fitted ship actually help?
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#2 - 2012-12-24 14:58:38 UTC
get friends
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-12-24 15:35:30 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
get friends

This. Whatever you can do alone, can be done an arbitrary number of times better with friends. Assuming they know what they're doing of course.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Alpharius Aleutinus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-12-24 15:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpharius Aleutinus
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What tactics/other ship can be employed

I know about friends thanks Big smile So what exactly shall they do/have to scare a stealth bomber in a wh.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-12-24 16:14:42 UTC
Instant locking hurricane. Fill the mids with scan res scripted sensor boosters, highs with artillery, and lows with gyros. Half a second after they uncloak they are dead. It also works on Falcons too Pirate.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2012-12-24 19:59:47 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Instant locking hurricane. Fill the mids with scan res scripted sensor boosters, highs with artillery, and lows with gyros. Half a second after they uncloak they are dead. It also works on Falcons too Pirate.


This. As someone who has fallen victim to the instalock artycane while in a bomber...this.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Alpharius Aleutinus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-24 20:20:02 UTC
Ok good, thanks! IdeaPirate
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-12-24 20:24:08 UTC
Instalock artycane works very well, but if you're looking for a dirt-cheap option, instalocking Blackbird or Celestis (or if you're feeling really adventurous or incredibly cheap, instalock Griffin or Maulus) will work pretty well - they can't blow up what they can't lock. Having an artycane backed up by an e-war cruiser is, of course, an even better choice.

Basically, any setup that is very clearly intended to catch and kill stealth bombers. Smart bomber pilots will know the hard counters to their setups, while dumb bomber pilots will try their luck and die horribly, giving you safety and a free T2 killmail.

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ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#9 - 2012-12-25 00:24:24 UTC
Bombers don't like Stilettos very much :)


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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2012-12-25 02:25:24 UTC
Pretty much any fast frigate will ruin a Stealth Bomber's day. Use ECM for everything else.

How did you Veterans start?
Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-12-25 03:54:25 UTC
the last time i lived the wormhole life we just kept a couple rr tengus on the noctis to discourage bombers and a couple falcons incase other things poked their heads out oh and a tackle prot/loki depending on who we had on at the time

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
GhostDragoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-12-27 22:54:37 UTC
Dramiels & interceptors are the best anti-bomber ships to have. You want awesome sub-warp speed with great acceleration & a fast lock. It may sound odd, but newb frig pilots warp off / freak out when a bomber decloaks & launches a bomb. vets fire up the MWD, burn straight at it & go for tackle.

You should cover plenty of ground to clear the bomb's blast radius, get a fast lock & get in point range to tackle ASAP. The dramiel rocks at this. Next would be interceptors.
Balkor Wolf
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-12-28 00:35:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Balkor Wolf
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Instant locking hurricane. Fill the mids with scan res scripted sensor boosters, highs with artillery, and lows with gyros. Half a second after they uncloak they are dead. It also works on Falcons too Pirate.


Back in the Delve campaign when I was flying with Nulli I had come to love flying stealth bombers, we used them to good effect against the large blobs we fought however in counter Test used insta locking canes to just as good effect to kill us before the bomb could cause any damage. Even if launched if you kill the bomber before the bomb explodes then it causes no damage.