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Terra Volta
Hysera Innovations
#61 - 2012-12-23 18:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Terra Volta
flakeys wrote:
your a troll and remind me of setra ... anyone who opens up my contracts btw immediatly sees i have 16 public contracts up wich kills your whole troll in a blink.

You're free to buy them all out now btw to prove you are right , it's good for profits.


I'm not trying to troll.

If I see there is reason, and truth in what people say, I happily shut my mouth. Like how I haven't responded to what Bad Bobby said to me.

it doesn't matter if you currently have 1 contract or 16 public contracts - OK I was wrong, you have 16 public contract.

Even that is a small amount for how much you claim you have.

Analyze that, with your completed contracts history which only started being active in May, and your claim that you've made enough ISK through Bonds to buy LOTS of cap / supercap / titan bpo's.

I looked at the current BPO's you have on auction after you told me I got it wrong.

They're worth 20 - 25 Bil max. How much have you got in the oven?
flakeys
Doomheim
#62 - 2012-12-23 18:30:10 UTC
So put your money where your mouth is.


You arrange a full audit through VV or grendell and pay for it.We both give 150 B to the person who does the audit and i give my full api's from all accounts and acces to my corp.

If i am proven right i get your 150 B , if i am wrong you get mine.

Now what a great way to earn you some easy 150 B isk mate so you can feel satisfied not playing with the small pennies any more.Because you're starting to sound butthurt you can not accomplish what a simple cook can without the use of speadsheets and 0.01 isking all day.

Arrange it and i will co-operate ,

Dare me ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Terra Volta
Hysera Innovations
#63 - 2012-12-23 18:36:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Terra Volta
flakeys wrote:
So put your money where your mouth is.


You arrange a full audit through VV or grendell and pay for it.We both give 150 B to the person who does the audit and i give my full api's from all accounts and acces to my corp.

If i am proven right i get your 150 B , if i am wrong you get mine.

Now what a great way to earn you some easy 150 B isk mate so you can feel satisfied not playing with the small pennies any more.Because you're starting to sound butthurt you can not accomplish what a simple cook can without the use of speadsheets and 0.01 isking all day.

Arrange it and i will co-operate ,

Dare me ....



First of all, I am not butt hurt. I know what I've done, because I played actively from 2009 - 2011, and then I took a 2 year break from 2011 - 2012 after I got a full time job. Earning 240 Bil is not bad for 2 years of work, and I am proud of it.

Second, if you are willing to go to this extreme, then I admit, I was wrong to doubt you. Since both VV and Grendell are prominent figures.

The reason why I attacked you, is because I dis-like Social Engineers, and your story, about earning all this money through bonds, without spending RL money to get your initial investment amount - which you've made enough to buy Supercap BPO's, is still very sketchy to me.
flakeys
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-12-23 18:40:54 UTC
Terra Volta wrote:
flakeys wrote:
So put your money where your mouth is.


You arrange a full audit through VV or grendell and pay for it.We both give 150 B to the person who does the audit and i give my full api's from all accounts and acces to my corp.

If i am proven right i get your 150 B , if i am wrong you get mine.

Now what a great way to earn you some easy 150 B isk mate so you can feel satisfied not playing with the small pennies any more.Because you're starting to sound butthurt you can not accomplish what a simple cook can without the use of speadsheets and 0.01 isking all day.

Arrange it and i will co-operate ,

Dare me ....



First of all, I am not butt hurt. I know what I've done, because I played actively from 2009 - 2011, and then I took a 2 year break from 2011 - 2012 after I got a full time job. Earning 240 Bil is not bad for 2 years of work, and I am proud of it.

Second, if you are willing to go to this extreme, then I admit, I was wrong to doubt you. Since both VV and Grendell are prominent figures.

The reason why I attacked you, is because I dis-like Social Engineers, and your story, about earning all this money through bonds - enough to buy Supercap BPO's, is still very sketchy to me.



Then challenge it, come on it's a game.This is pvp at it's finest , challenge me and find out what the outcome is.

If you even took the time to log in and have a chat this would have been obvious , but instead you prefer doing it in public.Here is your chance to publicly humiliate me and i have shown to have a vulnerable spot there.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Terra Volta
Hysera Innovations
#65 - 2012-12-23 18:46:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Terra Volta
flakeys wrote:
Terra Volta wrote:
flakeys wrote:
So put your money where your mouth is.


You arrange a full audit through VV or grendell and pay for it.We both give 150 B to the person who does the audit and i give my full api's from all accounts and acces to my corp.

If i am proven right i get your 150 B , if i am wrong you get mine.

Now what a great way to earn you some easy 150 B isk mate so you can feel satisfied not playing with the small pennies any more.Because you're starting to sound butthurt you can not accomplish what a simple cook can without the use of speadsheets and 0.01 isking all day.

Arrange it and i will co-operate ,

Dare me ....



First of all, I am not butt hurt. I know what I've done, because I played actively from 2009 - 2011, and then I took a 2 year break from 2011 - 2012 after I got a full time job. Earning 240 Bil is not bad for 2 years of work, and I am proud of it.

Second, if you are willing to go to this extreme, then I admit, I was wrong to doubt you. Since both VV and Grendell are prominent figures.

The reason why I attacked you, is because I dis-like Social Engineers, and your story, about earning all this money through bonds - enough to buy Supercap BPO's, is still very sketchy to me.



Then challenge it, come on it's a game.This is pvp at it's finest , challenge me and find out what the outcome is.

If you even took the time to log in and have a chat this would have been obvious , but instead you prefer doing it in public.Here is your chance to publicly humiliate me and i have shown to have a vulnerable spot there.


I already admitted I was wrong to doubt that you have 500 bil.....OMG did I just admit I was wrong in public.

HOWEVER, If you sold PLEX to get your initial Bond nvestment years ago, there is nothing that VV, or Grendell can do to prove otherwise, the wallet history don't even go back that far.
flakeys
Doomheim
#66 - 2012-12-23 18:56:01 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Terra Volta wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Terra Volta wrote:
flakeys wrote:
So put your money where your mouth is.


You arrange a full audit through VV or grendell and pay for it.We both give 150 B to the person who does the audit and i give my full api's from all accounts and acces to my corp.

If i am proven right i get your 150 B , if i am wrong you get mine.

Now what a great way to earn you some easy 150 B isk mate so you can feel satisfied not playing with the small pennies any more.Because you're starting to sound butthurt you can not accomplish what a simple cook can without the use of speadsheets and 0.01 isking all day.

Arrange it and i will co-operate ,

Dare me ....



First of all, I am not butt hurt. I know what I've done, because I played actively from 2009 - 2011, and then I took a 2 year break from 2011 - 2012 after I got a full time job. Earning 240 Bil is not bad for 2 years of work, and I am proud of it.

Second, if you are willing to go to this extreme, then I admit, I was wrong to doubt you. Since both VV and Grendell are prominent figures.

The reason why I attacked you, is because I dis-like Social Engineers, and your story, about earning all this money through bonds - enough to buy Supercap BPO's, is still very sketchy to me.



Then challenge it, come on it's a game.This is pvp at it's finest , challenge me and find out what the outcome is.

If you even took the time to log in and have a chat this would have been obvious , but instead you prefer doing it in public.Here is your chance to publicly humiliate me and i have shown to have a vulnerable spot there.


I already admitted I was wrong to doubt that you have 500 bil.....OMG did I just admit I was wrong in public.

HOWEVER, If you sold PLEX to get your initial Bond nvestment years ago, there is nothing that VV, or Grendell can do to prove otherwise, the wallet history don't even go back that far.



I only had about 250 B max around january if i recall right , i have doubled my isk this year alone ... without using speculation , without 0.01 isking..Know what i used?Flexibility , no spreadsheets and just enjoying different parts of the whole trade aspect.Specially the bpo channel , it was a revelation to me ...
Something that is available to everyone new and old.Offcourse having a good reserve means you can also profit from some things more then new guys , that's only logic.But then some things are logic for one person while the other person keeps struggling with it.

Yet again if you keep insisting on calling me out then place your money where that mouth is ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Grimm Index
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2012-12-23 18:57:08 UTC
This is why we can't have nice things.
BringNRain
Easily.Offended
#68 - 2012-12-23 19:00:14 UTC  |  Edited by: BringNRain
flakeys wrote:
BringNRain wrote:
[quote=flakeys]your a troll and remind me of setra ...



Where is the 150 bil bet!!!


:D
flakeys
Doomheim
#69 - 2012-12-23 19:03:01 UTC
BringNRain wrote:
flakeys wrote:
BringNRain wrote:
[quote=flakeys]your a troll and remind me of setra ...



Where is the 150 bil bet!!!


:D


He allmost begged for it , i confess i am weak and for a 37 year old childish enough to let myself get trolled out Big smile

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Terra Volta
Hysera Innovations
#70 - 2012-12-23 19:09:51 UTC
flakeys wrote:
BringNRain wrote:
flakeys wrote:
BringNRain wrote:
[quote=flakeys]your a troll and remind me of setra ...



Where is the 150 bil bet!!!


:D


He allmost begged for it , i confess i am weak and for a 37 year old childish enough to let myself get trolled out Big smile


Begged for what? I wasn't trying to troll.

If you had proposed the bet yesterday, the conversation would have ended yesterday, because I see you are willing to go to this extreme to prove it.
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#71 - 2012-12-23 22:06:01 UTC
Terra Volta wrote:


Begged for what? I wasn't trying to troll.

If you had proposed the bet yesterday, the conversation would have ended yesterday, because I see you are willing to go to this extreme to prove it.


Nah bro, you got this, he's bluffing. Go for it.
Disposable Drunkard
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-12-24 09:16:07 UTC
I just invested in a $9 nice bottle of jungle juice. It's sweet and warms inside.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#73 - 2012-12-24 12:02:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I can safely say that Flakeys deals with expensive BPOs because in the past I have asked him to go fetch them for me and then I bought off him.

Also, to stay in topic, I feel very rich for the very fact I can play EvE and other MMOs I love.

Right yesterday I played Istaria after 2 years (I keep it perma-subbed on 3 accounts, because I love to support their developers who really REALLY did an heroic feat). I met a dearest, DEAREST, D E A R E S T pre 2003 friend of mine in there. She decided to play yesterday after 5 years of absence. It's incredible how these coincidences can happen.
Since I am absurdly rich in there, I will gift her a buildable large plot of land near my "lizard" alt's (those cost a lot).
But to show that "rich" is relative, I linked a character unbound Boar Mask. I immediately got swamped by people willing to offer me *9 years worth of gold grinding* just to have it.
I said no. Nothing can buy it, they can only rosick forever Twisted

Eve? It's the same. I am rich not because I can buy a Titan but because there is MD and SCC where there are some awesome people like Flakeys, Samroski, RAW23 and a bunch of others.
I don't have incredible "one piece in game" items in EvE since I am a 2009 newb, but incredible "one person like that in game" guys no ISK could buy. Just knowing they are here makes me rich and happy.

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Umar Umarhabib
Doomheim
#74 - 2012-12-24 17:27:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Umar Umarhabib
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
I can safely say that Flakeys deals with expensive BPOs because in the past I have asked him to go fetch them for me and then I bought off him.

Also, to stay in topic, I feel very rich for the very fact I can play EvE and other MMOs I love.


Eve? It's the same. I am rich not because I can buy a Titan but because there is MD and SCC where there are some awesome people like Flakeys, Samroski, RAW23 and a bunch of others.

I don't have incredible "one piece in game" items in EvE since I am a 2009 newb, but incredible "one person like that in game" guys no ISK could buy. Just knowing they are here makes me rich and happy.


awwww.............that's so sweet Big smile

<3 <3 <3 <3
flakeys
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-12-24 17:39:04 UTC
Anyway , on topic.

The question is asked wrong it should be what is rich in eve not what is wealthy.

Wealth is something that combines feelings and isk/cash/income. If i surround myself with poor people i will feel wealthy a lot of the time while if i surround myself with people who have more i won't see myself as being wealthy.


We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#76 - 2012-12-24 17:56:08 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Anyway , on topic.

The question is asked wrong it should be what is rich in eve not what is wealthy.

Wealth is something that combines feelings and isk/cash/income. If i surround myself with poor people i will feel wealthy a lot of the time while if i surround myself with people who have more i won't see myself as being wealthy.



Yet, if I surround myself with awesome people better than me, I will see myself as being wealthy P

Many cuddles and smooches for a merry Christmas and happy new year!

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flakeys
Doomheim
#77 - 2012-12-24 18:24:17 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Anyway , on topic.

The question is asked wrong it should be what is rich in eve not what is wealthy.

Wealth is something that combines feelings and isk/cash/income. If i surround myself with poor people i will feel wealthy a lot of the time while if i surround myself with people who have more i won't see myself as being wealthy.



Yet, if I surround myself with awesome people better than me, I will see myself as being wealthy P

Many cuddles and smooches for a merry Christmas and happy new year!


Wich only indicates wealth indeed is based on feelings :P

And merry christmas right back at ya ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
iskflakes
#78 - 2012-12-24 18:56:51 UTC
If only you guys had signed up to my website to get an accurate audit in a few minutes.. this whole EPEEN battle could have been avoided :)

It doesn't really matter how much money you have, just as long as it's more than everybody else you know.

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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#79 - 2012-12-24 19:31:51 UTC
Terra Volta wrote:
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
The Fukuzawa wrote:



Based on what? you really going to argue that there are a large number of players that personally are worth more than a trillion isk with no evidence to back it up?


common sense...

when every random 99%-scrublord can have 100bn and more, there must be some more dudes having trillions+

I dont want to ruin ur illusion of beeing rich, but like I said, 3 years ago there have been many dudes (thats just those I knew), having way more than a trillion, and they havent quit after reaching that mark.


Eve Online is good for Veterans who started playing back in 2003. But it's unfair to newer players who started playing in .....2010 for example (if you want to compare who has the ability to make more ISK)

There were many more opportunities to get rich fast back in 2003 / 2004, and all the way up until a few expansions ago. Like Tech 2 BPO's, NPC Commodities trading in 0.0 stations, Reactions, Insurance Scam, Dysprosium, ETC.

I bet you half of the trillionaires, and people who have 700 - 800 Billion, cannot become so rich, if they actually started playing right now for 8 years (from 2012 - 2020), instead of playing from 2004 - 2012.

Even if they become the director of a large alliance, they cannot make nearly as much ISK from moon goo now, as they did years ago.


I started amassing my wealth in 2010. Essentially starting from about 8B (burnout quit with 2 gel chains in space wiped out my old wealth). Multi trillionare now, so yes, it can be done. I also do it with very little effort. If I was willing to be a sperg and do tons of EFFORT in EVE, it would be far higher. None of it came from the perks for being a director either. Not sure if you believe directors just skim moogoo or something. Any good alliance is auditing that.

Though to your point, my initial leftover few billion did come from farming Khuumak before CCP nerfed it. However, I could have easily gotten the same bankroll doing the cosmos set on a few chars, or ratting or whatever.

We have many newbie goons who go from brand new to the game, to 100B+ wealth inside 2 years with pretty little effort. Wealth generation is not something lacking in the EVE of today.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

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flakeys
Doomheim
#80 - 2012-12-24 19:32:06 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
It doesn't really matter how much money you have, just as long as it's more than everybody else you know.



Kinda hard when everyone knows chribba / entity , akita t ... and allmost none have more isk.


And there's a difference between epeen and ehonour ... one is bragging about how much you have the other is crying like a kid when someone says your dishonest.I'm a cry baby , i can't help being a mommy's boy.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.