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War Target CEO threatening my CEO

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Aiden Vorlan
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-12-24 04:26:45 UTC
Yes, I'm posting on an alt, and I would prefer to keep it that way as I don't want my current corporation and alliance dragged into this.

I would like a Dev or GM's response to this issue, because it's one that we have been having with this particular CEO. Recently, my previous corporation and alliance joined a war against my alliance. The CEO of the WT alliance has a history of if not being mentally unstable, then violent and petulant enough that he is very likely to act on his impulses.

Today, the CEO of the alliance we are at war with was talking on Ventrilo with his corpmates. One of them runs a LiveStream that he has running often enough. The CEO of the WTs has been upset because he views the current corporation as "stabbing him in the back" as he puts it. Most of us are for one reason or another no longer in his corporation because we either can't stand him, or because we just don't want to hear him whine.

On the Ventrilo (which was captured by the LiveStream), he mentioned our CEO by name. He then said that he had "stopped by his house" and that he had intended to beat our CEO to a pulp. He even claimed that he had a baseball bat in his car when he had driven to our CEO's house, and he knows where our CEO lives. Naturally, considering we all thought this was a very likely action given his mental instability, our first reactions were to call our CEO to make sure he was okay. Thankfully he had been out doing last minute Christmas shopping with his wife and daughter, so he couldn't say if the guy had shown up or not. Either way, the threat was very real, and we didn't get to hear much more before the CEO demanded the player stop the LiveStream.

Understanding that CCP has no real options when it comes to Ventrilo or other VOIP programs, what is CCP's take on real-life threats made against players of their game?
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#2 - 2012-12-24 04:42:04 UTC
First, any realistic threat of that nature needs to be reported to the police. CCP ain't gonna protect nobody.

Second, since the threats didn't take place within a CCP related product or environment, there wouldn't be much they would likely do except advise to block said individual. Any ingame threats made can be properly petitioned.

Third, addressing CCP directly needs to be done via petition, not via General Discussion. This is literally one of the worst places to post about it, except maybe in a forum section that never sees the light of day.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

Kuseka Adama
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-24 04:43:31 UTC
Aiden Vorlan wrote:
Yes, I'm posting on an alt, and I would prefer to keep it that way as I don't want my current corporation and alliance dragged into this.

I would like a Dev or GM's response to this issue, because it's one that we have been having with this particular CEO. Recently, my previous corporation and alliance joined a war against my alliance. The CEO of the WT alliance has a history of if not being mentally unstable, then violent and petulant enough that he is very likely to act on his impulses.

Today, the CEO of the alliance we are at war with was talking on Ventrilo with his corpmates. One of them runs a LiveStream that he has running often enough. The CEO of the WTs has been upset because he views the current corporation as "stabbing him in the back" as he puts it. Most of us are for one reason or another no longer in his corporation because we either can't stand him, or because we just don't want to hear him whine.

On the Ventrilo (which was captured by the LiveStream), he mentioned our CEO by name. He then said that he had "stopped by his house" and that he had intended to beat our CEO to a pulp. He even claimed that he had a baseball bat in his car when he had driven to our CEO's house, and he knows where our CEO lives. Naturally, considering we all thought this was a very likely action given his mental instability, our first reactions were to call our CEO to make sure he was okay. Thankfully he had been out doing last minute Christmas shopping with his wife and daughter, so he couldn't say if the guy had shown up or not. Either way, the threat was very real, and we didn't get to hear much more before the CEO demanded the player stop the LiveStream.

Understanding that CCP has no real options when it comes to Ventrilo or other VOIP programs, what is CCP's take on real-life threats made against players of their game?


Take the voice comm to the FBI cybercrime division. This goes well beyond the reach of CCP's hand and should be put in the hands of the authorities. I also recommend your CEO take a more defensive posture from now on if someone's going to go to THIS extent. There is a line that has been badly and permanently crossed. If i were in the threatener's corp i'd leave...no I'D RUN.

Threats like this have no place in this game nor should they. And had someone made such a threat and done such a thing towards myself? They'd be staring down the barrel of a twelve gauge locked and loaded.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-24 04:48:05 UTC
Way too far. Let CCP know at the very least.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

Etherealclams
#5 - 2012-12-24 04:53:09 UTC
If true someone seriously needs to reconsider their life.
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Pyre leFay
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-12-24 05:22:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Pyre leFay
These are the type of people the news loves to glorify. "What could he have been thinking?" "What drove him to this?" "what did he do, with what, when, how" in detail so others can do the same. In memorandum "He was the quiet sort, kept to himself and played mmos".
Video games did it. No, he was just bat **** crazy to start with. Call the cops before it gets to that point.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#7 - 2012-12-24 05:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
This is no surprise this day and age, and the way people treat others here im surprised brawls haven't happened at fan feast.
Dark Long
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-12-24 05:39:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Dark Long
First off report this to the police. i dont know were you live so unless you live the states were you can get hold of the F.B.I get hold of the police. most place's have law on this.

As for ccp inform them about this as its taken something in game out of game. Yes ccp might or might not do anything but let them know all the info. FIle a pettion on it.

ccp might say its out of there hand or might ban his account. you never know.

Given what happen at fan fest last year you never know what they will do.
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-12-24 05:47:47 UTC
If he ever does it in an in-game chat channel it's pretty much an instant perma-ban (after petition). CCP takes this stuff seriously.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-12-24 06:02:36 UTC
Aiden Vorlan wrote:
Yes, I'm posting on an alt, and I would prefer to keep it that way as I don't want my current corporation and alliance dragged into this.

I would like a Dev or GM's response to this issue, because it's one that we have been having with this particular CEO. Recently, my previous corporation and alliance joined a war against my alliance. The CEO of the WT alliance has a history of if not being mentally unstable, then violent and petulant enough that he is very likely to act on his impulses.

Today, the CEO of the alliance we are at war with was talking on Ventrilo with his corpmates. One of them runs a LiveStream that he has running often enough. The CEO of the WTs has been upset because he views the current corporation as "stabbing him in the back" as he puts it. Most of us are for one reason or another no longer in his corporation because we either can't stand him, or because we just don't want to hear him whine.

On the Ventrilo (which was captured by the LiveStream), he mentioned our CEO by name. He then said that he had "stopped by his house" and that he had intended to beat our CEO to a pulp. He even claimed that he had a baseball bat in his car when he had driven to our CEO's house, and he knows where our CEO lives. Naturally, considering we all thought this was a very likely action given his mental instability, our first reactions were to call our CEO to make sure he was okay. Thankfully he had been out doing last minute Christmas shopping with his wife and daughter, so he couldn't say if the guy had shown up or not. Either way, the threat was very real, and we didn't get to hear much more before the CEO demanded the player stop the LiveStream.

Understanding that CCP has no real options when it comes to Ventrilo or other VOIP programs, what is CCP's take on real-life threats made against players of their game?



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report it to the FBI ASAP

Lock his stupid arse up

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-12-24 06:25:41 UTC
He should've just posted a whine thread on GD. Atleast we would've gotten a few laughs about it. But yeah, do let us know if CCP got his stuff.
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#12 - 2012-12-24 06:47:25 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Aiden Vorlan wrote:
Yes, I'm posting on an alt, and I would prefer to keep it that way as I don't want my current corporation and alliance dragged into this.

I would like a Dev or GM's response to this issue, because it's one that we have been having with this particular CEO. Recently, my previous corporation and alliance joined a war against my alliance. The CEO of the WT alliance has a history of if not being mentally unstable, then violent and petulant enough that he is very likely to act on his impulses.

Today, the CEO of the alliance we are at war with was talking on Ventrilo with his corpmates. One of them runs a LiveStream that he has running often enough. The CEO of the WTs has been upset because he views the current corporation as "stabbing him in the back" as he puts it. Most of us are for one reason or another no longer in his corporation because we either can't stand him, or because we just don't want to hear him whine.

On the Ventrilo (which was captured by the LiveStream), he mentioned our CEO by name. He then said that he had "stopped by his house" and that he had intended to beat our CEO to a pulp. He even claimed that he had a baseball bat in his car when he had driven to our CEO's house, and he knows where our CEO lives. Naturally, considering we all thought this was a very likely action given his mental instability, our first reactions were to call our CEO to make sure he was okay. Thankfully he had been out doing last minute Christmas shopping with his wife and daughter, so he couldn't say if the guy had shown up or not. Either way, the threat was very real, and we didn't get to hear much more before the CEO demanded the player stop the LiveStream.

Understanding that CCP has no real options when it comes to Ventrilo or other VOIP programs, what is CCP's take on real-life threats made against players of their game?



here
report it to the FBI ASAP

Lock his stupid arse up


I like how you tards are assuming this is in the United States.

The FBI are basically tourists in any other country.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-12-24 06:53:13 UTC
People are so brave on the internet.
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#14 - 2012-12-24 07:15:52 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
I like how you tards are assuming this is in the United States.

The FBI are basically tourists in any other country.

It's where all the crazy people live after all.

Nyan

Aiden Vorlan
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-12-24 07:21:02 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Aiden Vorlan wrote:
Yes, I'm posting on an alt, and I would prefer to keep it that way as I don't want my current corporation and alliance dragged into this.

I would like a Dev or GM's response to this issue, because it's one that we have been having with this particular CEO. Recently, my previous corporation and alliance joined a war against my alliance. The CEO of the WT alliance has a history of if not being mentally unstable, then violent and petulant enough that he is very likely to act on his impulses.

Today, the CEO of the alliance we are at war with was talking on Ventrilo with his corpmates. One of them runs a LiveStream that he has running often enough. The CEO of the WTs has been upset because he views the current corporation as "stabbing him in the back" as he puts it. Most of us are for one reason or another no longer in his corporation because we either can't stand him, or because we just don't want to hear him whine.

On the Ventrilo (which was captured by the LiveStream), he mentioned our CEO by name. He then said that he had "stopped by his house" and that he had intended to beat our CEO to a pulp. He even claimed that he had a baseball bat in his car when he had driven to our CEO's house, and he knows where our CEO lives. Naturally, considering we all thought this was a very likely action given his mental instability, our first reactions were to call our CEO to make sure he was okay. Thankfully he had been out doing last minute Christmas shopping with his wife and daughter, so he couldn't say if the guy had shown up or not. Either way, the threat was very real, and we didn't get to hear much more before the CEO demanded the player stop the LiveStream.

Understanding that CCP has no real options when it comes to Ventrilo or other VOIP programs, what is CCP's take on real-life threats made against players of their game?



here
report it to the FBI ASAP

Lock his stupid arse up


I like how you tards are assuming this is in the United States.

The FBI are basically tourists in any other country.


They both live in the United States.

Just found out my CEO has a shotgun and two rifles. I feel a bit better for his wife and daughter if the WT CEO actually DOES something...
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#16 - 2012-12-24 07:31:16 UTC
came expecting a Crime/Punishmentesque tear collection.

was dissapointed.

Call the FBI, man. what if the WT CEO goes to your CEO's house, and your CEO isn't there.....but his wife/daughter are?
aechos
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-12-24 07:47:49 UTC
Aiden Vorlan wrote:
Jack Tronic wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Aiden Vorlan wrote:
Yes, I'm posting on an alt, and I would prefer to keep it that way as I don't want my current corporation and alliance dragged into this.

I would like a Dev or GM's response to this issue, because it's one that we have been having with this particular CEO. Recently, my previous corporation and alliance joined a war against my alliance. The CEO of the WT alliance has a history of if not being mentally unstable, then violent and petulant enough that he is very likely to act on his impulses.

Today, the CEO of the alliance we are at war with was talking on Ventrilo with his corpmates. One of them runs a LiveStream that he has running often enough. The CEO of the WTs has been upset because he views the current corporation as "stabbing him in the back" as he puts it. Most of us are for one reason or another no longer in his corporation because we either can't stand him, or because we just don't want to hear him whine.

On the Ventrilo (which was captured by the LiveStream), he mentioned our CEO by name. He then said that he had "stopped by his house" and that he had intended to beat our CEO to a pulp. He even claimed that he had a baseball bat in his car when he had driven to our CEO's house, and he knows where our CEO lives. Naturally, considering we all thought this was a very likely action given his mental instability, our first reactions were to call our CEO to make sure he was okay. Thankfully he had been out doing last minute Christmas shopping with his wife and daughter, so he couldn't say if the guy had shown up or not. Either way, the threat was very real, and we didn't get to hear much more before the CEO demanded the player stop the LiveStream.

Understanding that CCP has no real options when it comes to Ventrilo or other VOIP programs, what is CCP's take on real-life threats made against players of their game?



here
report it to the FBI ASAP

Lock his stupid arse up


I like how you tards are assuming this is in the United States.

The FBI are basically tourists in any other country.


They both live in the United States.

Just found out my CEO has a shotgun and two rifles. I feel a bit better for his wife and daughter if the WT CEO actually DOES something...


OK STOP. First things first, This is a matter for the LOCAL police the FBI has little jurisdiction or care for to guys that have a beef. Unless it relates to interstate commerce..... Furthermore you have to consider the situation. Even with a recording none of the statements were actually made to your dude himself. SO Menacing is out the door in most states as well as Harassment or any thing there of. Some states this may be considered attempted assault because the dude had a plan and took a significant step by going to other dudes house. Your Dude should speak with the police have a report filed even if the police don't have enough to charge. Then on Wednesday see about getting a restraining order. Then other dude will go to jail for doing anything crazy. Saying you are going to physically harm someone then not doing it is rarely a crime. First Amendment and all that. Even if there was I am thinking low misdemeanor/petty offense. Side question how do you really know he did anything? Its not what you know it is what you can prove which is he likes to vent in vent that's it. CCP shouldn't get involved without a request from law enforcement, and that should be for term of use violations and responses to Subpoenas. Despite their desire to keep us all safe they have little real impact on the real world. Also as a side note for your dudes sake I would hope he doesn't have an altercation with other dude since you threw out that he has firearms which implies he intends to use them.... premeditation...... probably wouldn't fly in criminal court but a lawsuit could be a different matter. There again it depends on your states laws so calling the police is the logical first step.
Amarra Mandalin
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2012-12-24 08:01:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
Aiden Vorlan wrote:
[quote=Jack Tronic][quote=Ivy Romanova][quote=Aiden Vorlan]

Just found out my CEO has a shotgun and two rifles. I feel a bit better for his wife and daughter if the WT CEO actually DOES something...


Now we're talking guns? This thread needs to go and the authorities need to handle this.

Did it occur to you that the perpetrator may be reading this thread, for starters?
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#19 - 2012-12-24 08:06:16 UTC
this thread makes me want to change species and move to a galaxy far, far away.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#20 - 2012-12-24 08:08:17 UTC
It's probably just nerdrage talk, but one can never be sure.

The Tears Must Flow

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