Market Discussions

I call this bull **** too, because just a year ago you were placing regional buy orders for tech 1 modules such as Microwarpdrive for refining. I know because I sold a few different Tech 1 modules to check who was buying it.

Why would someone who have hundreds of billion...or even a hundred billion....bother to go through all this trouble for a few bucks, and have Tech 1 modules scattered all over the region?

Buying un-researched BPO's in other regions (such as Cruisers, and Capital Component BPO's, etc.) and then selling them in Jita for a profit is very tedious and time consuming. Why would someone with over 100 billion bother to do that either? The same goes with researched BPO trading.

Insult all you want. Judging from your forum activity - 500 Billion Net Worth individuals don't need to make ISK as actively as you do. 200 Billion net worth individuals don't even need to do that.

I am not afraid to be proven wrong.

So if you have something to back up the claim that you have 500 Billion...other than the few Dread / Carrier BPO's you've been working to research and trying to sell, and the Tech 1 Regional Buy orders you've placed in the past, then I'm all ears.

If you can prove I am wrong, and I am an idiot......that's great.

Otherwise if you just reply and say "I don't need to prove anything to you"......then that would be pointless, because i was just expressing my opinion - and I'll take your previous comment as a gesture that you disagree with my opinion.

I am sorry to disappoint you, I still do a lot of things I should have stopped a long time ago with if I ever bothered to count ISK/h.
But in reality my expectation on my ROI is very low. If I get 1% or above I am almost happy. I still trade in medium drones and ammo, my orders is kind of your FoF missiles (I read some were it is read out as Fire and forget missiles, even if it isn't what it stand for).
I put them up forget about them and re list much later.
Like the latest patch, I had some cruisers listed at a high price. Then came the patch note, I didn't bother much with my orders I sold them at a decent profit. All I did was to build new cruisers, a number that use to be a years supply for me.
I will most likely just put them out there and people will come in here and whine about someone that are selling at below build cost (just), force anyone else that will sell to go lower. Mean while I will just put up new buy orders while I wait for the market to correct it self. Probably it will take a couple of years :-P

I started to haul my goods around in Badgers moved up to freighters, now a days I rarely bother to get anything unless there is a freighter load at the station and often not even then.
Putting up huge buy orders at a low cost, is very effective. Do this once every 90 days across several items, get Red Frog to ship it twice a year or once and it is still a very good deal for minimal effort.

Also back in the days when it was easy to get rich quick!
I transported Mexallon between stations to sell to NPC orders in my Tristan.
I struggled for a month or two (don't remember exactly) to get into a Moa. That was the only cruiser I could afford, I jumped out 20 jumps or so with ten other players into 0.0 (It was really a big and deserted place back then). To mine Arkanor, we have all heard that was the way to get rich quick!
I lost it 20 min later to some NPC pirates.
I actually took a break from the game back then for a couple of month

Sure the number of possible market speculation has of course been higher just because we have lived through more patches. But as you can see every patch still gives plenty of opportunities to speculate. So unless you suggest that you should get several billion in some check just because you didn't start playing in 2003 I don't see your point?
While your at it maybe you should get some SP compensation just to make it more even with older players?

Why does this game feel like real life a lot of the time

Convo time íngame because i REALLY dont feel like derailing this thread any more with this you said he said she said it was , once i got me a new beer i'll catch you ingame.

Apologies to others for this ....

I shouldnt post when drunk. How can i help?

Interesting topic... Dont really get the fact that ppl say how they earned their isk.

my e-peen is 7,1 trillion and 175bn long (thats the point why simply postign random numbers make no sense either)

I dislike the way you make it seem as if i wanted it private to 'hide' something so i will bite your troll for that now.Last reply about that on the public forum from me .It's allready silly that i am such a child that i can't handle it if i am called a liar in a game.
I don't have an e-peen but i am one of those idiots who does have e-honour though wich is why i dislike being called a liar when i am not.Yes all you goons / scammers can point and laugh now

I am not selling dread/carrier bpo's , i am selling OVER 100 dread/carrier/ORE/capital component bpo's in one time , there's a difference there wich should be significant.The amount invested in that alone when i set it up was around 150 to 200 B.In the time they where in labs i was also buying 'multiple' titan and mothership bpo's AT THE SAME TIME in a few cases.That alone should tell you the LEAST i can have is 350 B purely in bpo's not accounting assets and what is in my wallet.

Also you say a year ago i bought T1 stuff for reproc/resale wich is true but if you would have checked you would know that a year before i was one of the largets investors on MD.So when i place buy orders for T1 items why does that mean i don't have accumulated any isk.I made my first isk with reproc so i did that to test if it still was as good so i would dabble in capital ship building.It was not so i just trasehd/quick resold the itmes.

I am not one to work on isk efficiency , i just dabble a bit on the left and after half a year a bit on the right.

As said all i have in mind ALLWAYS is to earn plex's for my accounts.A silly habbit if you have enough to last a lifetime of plex allmost for flakeys account wichis my main concern and as flakeys is subbed till 2014 a year plus ago.
That's btw 5 accounts i have as in your mail you where also guessing about those.One inactive , then flakeys and another one i use a lot and ihave 2 that where subbed witht he power of two program but now also need plex as the 6 months have passed.

In your mail you say you checked my contracts then also add that for an ME5 charon bpo a year ago you could not even get 300 for that ME5 in total profit as such you did not continue in bpo's.IF you actually had checked those public contracts as you claimed , you'd seen i get from 250 to 450 m per me for ALL the freighters , and some dreads too.The cap components 100-150 and the other capital ship's approx 100m per ME.Offcourse this can all crumble when they are out next time but i'm just playing around here.What comes , comes .

And i'm not even talking about the big load of ORE bpo's i have sold during this specific trade time.Just check how many ORE bpo's where sold when the mining ship change got launched to give an idea or other meaans wich gained me isk.

And no i never used rl cash for this as you also try to imply in your mail.The only rl cash spend on eve is my 2 main subs wich i paid till a year + back as mentioned by the time when i subbed flakeys till 2014 in one go.

How's that for transparancy ?

your a troll and remind me of setra ... anyone who opens up my contracts btw immediatly sees i have 16 public contracts up wich kills your whole troll in a blink.Your first sentence is wrong spot on and it kills the rest of that crap

You're free to buy them all out now btw to prove you are right , it's good for profits.

I said i would not reply and let myself reply any way ... a mistake i should not have made.I've fallen for an obvious troll.